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ClemsonWill 09-15-2010 11:10 AM

Eibach sway bar set?
 
Has anyone tried them? Any comparisons to the hotchkis, whiteline, or stillen?


Thanks!

Push370zzz 09-17-2010 12:43 PM

Nope, but the Hotchkis are great just put mine on last night. Will have real impressions at the track tomorrow but they firm the **** out of the handling. Also comes with nozzles to grease the bushings so you dont have to remove them and greaser up every year.

zero 10-16-2010 11:50 PM

I got Eiback sways installed today. I drove a little and definitely felt the difference comparing to stock. The car is felt more planted for all four corners and positively less body roll during the turn and cornering :tup:. Both front and rear sways are adjustable. Here are the spec’s comparing to stock:

FRONT STOCK SWAYS are 26.5mm / 416 pounds per square inch

Eibach FRONT Sways are 32mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 730 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 900 pounds per square inch


REAR STOCK SWAYS are 24.3mm / 374 pounds per square inch

EIBACH REAR SWAYS are 29mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 627 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 741 pounds per square inch
3rd setting is 860 pounds per square inch

Mine is set for 1st setting on the front and 2nd setting on the rear.

docaam 10-17-2010 01:03 AM

I have Hotchiks and very happy with it, its a must more like a turbo setup for the suspension :) just felt at time it increased the understeer.

Only downpoint is that there are no setting in the front. Ebiach looks better but wait for reviews from different people before buying.

ClemsonWill 10-17-2010 06:12 AM

Thank you for the review Zero.

I think you are right Docaam. I'm still going to wait for more reviews.

NISMOFO 10-17-2010 07:33 PM

Sways are in my future as well. Wasn't sure if I wanted to keep the eibach springs on the car because They are so soft mainly in the rear, but I might keep them. I loved the way the full nismo s-tune felt on the 350....so I keep comparing to that. Definitely Would like to see more reviews on the different eibach sway bar settings as well.

zero 10-18-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 769119)
Thank you for the review Zero.

I think you are right Docaam. I'm still going to wait for more reviews.

Thanks, ClemsonWill. I'm probably the only Z with Eibach sways on the board. After driving for day I can tell you that the tires are more planted to the ground. It turns liked a go-cart. I am basically done with suspension mod and very happy with my current suspension setup. :tup::tup:

ncheung85 10-18-2010 09:07 PM

I just had my hotchkis installed this weekend. It feels really good.

I can probably compare the hotchkis with the eibach sway this weekend. If zero, let me test his car out. :D (just playing)

Here the specs for the Hotchkis.

Front Sway Bar
35mm (Ø1-3/8") Hollow
Hole 1 = 205% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

Rear Sway Bar
27mm (Ø1.063") Hollow
Hole 1 = 40% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 2 = 75% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 3 = 120% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

.....Anything is better than stock.

zero 10-18-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncheung85 (Post 771335)
I just had my hotchkis installed this weekend. It feels really good.

I can probably compare the hotchkis with the eibach sway this weekend. If zero, let me test his car out. :D (just playing)

Here the specs for the Hotchkis.

Front Sway Bar
35mm (Ø1-3/8") Hollow
Hole 1 = 205% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

Rear Sway Bar
27mm (Ø1.063") Hollow
Hole 1 = 40% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 2 = 75% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 3 = 120% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

.....Anything is better than stock.

ncheung, you are right, anthing is better than stock. Are you planning for coil over? This coming Saturday should be a good test on suspension going through twists and turns. Yeah we can compare notes...you can drive mine and I can driver yours (J/K).

I was comparing spec's between hotchkis, eibach and whiteline. I ended up with the Eibach on price, quality, and spec’s. I want to reduce the understeer on my current rims and tires setup, bringing the z to more neutral. The Eibach front with the 1st hole is 175% stiffer than OE and the rear with 2nd hole is 199% stiffer than OE. This should reduce the understeer and if I need more reduce more I can set the rear to the 3rd hole.

ncheung85 10-18-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 771422)
ncheung, you are right, anthing is better than stock. Are you planning for coil over? This coming Saturday should be a good test on suspension going through twists and turns. Yeah we can compare notes...you can drive mine and I can driver yours (J/K).

I was comparing spec's between hotchkis, eibach and whiteline. I ended up with the Eibach on price, quality, and spec’s. I want to reduce the understeer on my current rims and tires setup, bringing the z to more neutral. The Eibach front with the 1st hole is 175% stiffer than OE and the rear with 2nd hole is 199% stiffer than OE. This should reduce the understeer and if I need more reduce more I can set the rear to the 3rd hole.

I want to. I might get the coilovers that can be raised with a push of a button like the KW HLS because we got some nasty dips here in east LA.

On Saturday night, I went to the new AMC in Monterey Park. You should see the exit. LOL. Luckly, I shifted my exhaust tip all the way in that morning or else I would have damage my exhaust tip like my friend did on his lowered Integra. XD

And I got a 4 points ladder brace and 2 points rear brace, dont know if I should install them or sell them.

MYZ34 10-19-2010 08:05 AM

hey "ZERO" could you post up some pics of the eibachs please?

Fly1 Motorsports 10-19-2010 03:14 PM

I got the Eibachs installed this past weekend, and I can definitely tell the difference. I'm running stock suspension, and the car definitely feels more planted and confident through corners and frankly even changing lanes (understeer is gone). I have the middle setting on the rears and aggressive setting on the fronts. Unfortunately can't compare to other sways...but no complaints after the first few days...

zero 10-22-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theflyest1 (Post 772528)
I got the Eibachs installed this past weekend, and I can definitely tell the difference. I'm running stock suspension, and the car definitely feels more planted and confident through corners and frankly even changing lanes (understeer is gone). I have the middle setting on the rears and aggressive setting on the fronts. Unfortunately can't compare to other sways...but no complaints after the first few days...

Stiffer the front would increase understeer.

Fly1 Motorsports 10-23-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 777827)
Stiffer the front would increase understeer.

True...but if I'm not mistaken (which I very well could be), isn't the stiffer rear sway bar the main driver in reducing understeer? In regards to the front, I trusted Lou @ Amplified's recommendation to start w/ the aggressive setting. So far, she feels good though...

zero 10-24-2010 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theflyest1 (Post 778615)
True...but if I'm not mistaken (which I very well could be), isn't the stiffer rear sway bar the main driver in reducing understeer? In regards to the front, I trusted Lou @ Amplified's recommendation to start w/ the aggressive setting. So far, she feels good though...


Correct. the rear will have to set to the stiffest setting. So you have the front on 2nd hole and the rear on the 3rd hole. I have the front on 1st and the rear on 2nd. I am running 305 tires on the rear.

cotizi 10-24-2010 11:20 AM

I ordered a set of these last week as well. I'll be autocrossing with these for the next few months and will let you guys know what i think. Im going to start out with running the front bar on the softest setting, and the rear at either the middle or stiffest setting i think.

I also run 10.5" 285 tires in the front, so it will be interesting to see how that effects it.

zero 10-25-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotizi (Post 779106)
I ordered a set of these last week as well. I'll be autocrossing with these for the next few months and will let you guys know what i think. Im going to start out with running the front bar on the softest setting, and the rear at either the middle or stiffest setting i think.

I also run 10.5" 285 tires in the front, so it will be interesting to see how that effects it.

You got 10.5" on 285 in the front?

MYZ34 10-25-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 781190)
You got 10.5" on 285 in the front?

hey zero, since your one of the only few guys that run these sways are you able to take a couple of under car shots? just while its sitting on the ground? as there is no pics of these sways any where "only for the 350z"

thanks mate:tup:

"worth a rep"

zero 10-25-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 781202)
hey zero, since your one of the only few guys that run these sways are you able to take a couple of under car shots? just while its sitting on the ground? as there is no pics of these sways any where "only for the 350z"

thanks mate:tup:

"worth a rep"

G' day mate. I saw your post requesting the photo earlier but didn't have a chance getting under the car. I can take photo of the rear sway. The front is covered by the under panel. I'll try tonight.

cotizi 10-25-2010 07:24 PM

yeah 285 width nitto nt05's on a 10.5" wide Enkei NT03+M... all 4 corners. I don't run it on the street, however.

MYZ34 10-25-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 781214)
G' day mate. I saw your post requesting the photo earlier but didn't have a chance getting under the car. I can take photo of the rear sway. The front is covered by the under panel. I'll try tonight.

awesome mate that would be great

thanks for that:tup:

zero 10-25-2010 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 781253)
awesome mate that would be great

thanks for that:tup:

Here are the first set of photos. It's hard getting under the car when it's lowered. I'll try getting better ones later.

zero 10-25-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid (Post 781530)
Zero , thanks!:tiphat:

I ‘m just wondering why such a huge difference in OEM front bar numbers?

Stillen front sway bar hole is 720 lbs. and is only rated at 28.6% stiffer?

Eibach front 1st hole 730 lbs. just 10 lbs. difference and its rated at a whopping 176 % stiffer? :eek:

Hotchkis front, 1st hole is even larger by 29% for a total of 205 %

I also found interesting the #2 hole is almost equal in lbs. but really off in actual % numbers.

Stillen rear bar #2 , 920 lbs. 70% stiffer.

Hotchiks rear bar #2, ? lbs. 75% stiffer.


Eibach rear bar # 3 is only 860 lbs. 60 lbs. less then Stillen and is rated at 230 %, 160% higher then Stillen? :confused:

I’m I reading this wrong?

Thanks,

Alex


The Stillen numbers might have posted incorrectly. 28.6% stiffer will give 535 lbs/in. Should it be ~70+% stiffer? Someone might want to ask Stillen to confirm it.

Here is a conversion to percentage on Eibach.

OEM front : 26.5mm - 416 lbs/in
rear: 24.3mm - 374 lbs/in

Eibach
32mm OD front : 1st hole - ~176% (730 lbs/in) >>> ~76% stiffer than OE
2nd hole - ~217% (900 lbs/in) >>>>> 117 stiffer than OE

29mm OD rear : 1st hole - ~167% (625 lbs/in) >>>> 67% stiffer than OE
2nd hole - ~198% (741 lbs/in) >>>> 98% stiffer than OE
3rd hole - ~230% (860 lbs/in) >>>> 130% stiffer than OE

MYZ34 10-26-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 781308)
Here are the first set of photos. It's hard getting under the car when it's lowered. I'll try getting better ones later.

thanks mat rep added:tiphat:

Elia Cid 10-27-2010 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYZ34 (Post 781891)
thanks mat rep added:tiphat:

:iagree:

i added a rep as well !

Thank you.

Alex

Elia Cid 10-27-2010 07:54 AM

Zero,

Forgot to ask you, what type of bushings come with the Eibach sways?

Are they the greaseable bracket
type ?

Thanks,

Alex

zero 10-27-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid (Post 783650)
Zero,

Forgot to ask you, what type of bushings come with the Eibach sways?

Are they the greaseable bracket
type ?

Thanks,

Alex

It comes greasable Urethane Bushings and grease. We applied grease before installation. The bushing bracket does not have a grease fitting.

Endgame 10-27-2010 07:56 PM

BTW Zero.. love your ride...

zero 10-27-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 784723)
BTW Zero.. love your ride...

Thank you.

NewYorkJon34 01-03-2011 01:27 AM

Eibach Sways are going on tomorrow, I guess i'll just start with first hole in the front/middle hole for the rear bar

cotizi 01-04-2011 09:24 PM

Had these on the car for a few months now. Taking the car to AX at the end of the month, will report differences between stock bars and these. Currently running softest front, stiffest rear.

NewYorkJon34 01-04-2011 11:35 PM

Well since it's been a month, how do you like them vs stock?

NewYorkJon34 01-05-2011 03:09 PM

Installed today, while driving around it feels similar to stock but alittle stiffer, I like them. I still have to break them in, but so far so good :tup:

kenchan 01-05-2011 03:44 PM

NYjon- wat other mods did you do to your suspension? :)

NewYorkJon34 01-05-2011 04:41 PM

Kw V3 coilovers, SPC rear camber kit, eibach sway bars. I don't think there is anything else I could do to the suspension, if so I'd do it lol

zero 01-05-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 882189)
Kw V3 coilovers, SPC rear camber kit, eibach sway bars. I don't think there is anything else I could do to the suspension, if so I'd do it lol

Corner Balancing? :tup:

NewYorkJon34 01-05-2011 05:22 PM

Ya, what's the benefits of doing that?

zero 01-05-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 882253)
Ya, what's the benefits of doing that?

Here is a link to the discussion, http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...lks-about.html

mrkauffman 01-06-2011 12:21 AM

I just installed the eibach sway bar kit on my 08 2nd gen sport sedan and even compared to the stock sport sways the difference is huge. the car feels tight, minimal body roll, and turns in with ease.

My mods before the sways were BC BR coilovers set to 12f/12r, spc front and rear camber kit, and gt spec front strut bar.

cotizi 02-01-2011 09:16 PM

Update on these: I ran my first autocross since installing these sways last weekend and my car feels great and has almost no under steer. In fact, it oversteers now on higher speed slaloms. I'm currently running softest front, stiffest rear, so i think ill probably go to the stiff front setting. I was worried about understeer even on soft front setting, but thats clearly not a problem now. My much bigger than stock front tires seem to help out ALOT.


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