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I did find out at ZCON that XP-12/10 Carbotech combo sucks for autocross. They didnt get warmed up until my last two runs. When I tried to stop after crossing the finish gate, I thought I wasn't going to one time.

Thanks mike

So you are using these for autocross? I would be willing to try out the endurance version since I'm going to do some road racing if they are indeed suggested for that.

I ordered the Ferodo DS3000(front) and Ferodo DS2500(rear) for my upcoming track day. I will let you guys know how they work out.

The rear is going to be crap, I can tell you that now.

Do tell... the last time I tracked, I just kept the stockers on the rear. Interested to hear your experience. Maybe I will change up.

buy some new rotors too, the pads will destory them, especially if you get it really hot

Stillen (Brake Pros)... can prob find other sources as well

no, road courses... they work reasonably well at low temps, so I don't think they'd be bad at ax, but you may want to ask folks that regularly ax for input if you're at all serious about it... gl

When I track I use Porterfield R4. but then daily driving Im still on stocks but when they do run out I will buy the most expensive pad at Autozone. And then Rape the warranty on it.

Nothing beats lifetime warranty.

I ran brembo fm1000s with my front brembo gt calipers (2500 equivalents that came with them) and 2500 rears at CMP and wore them 95% down in two days. Don't get those for the rear, match the fronts. These cars really use the rear brakes

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Roger that

[QUOTE=travisjb;659425]Stillen (Brake Pros)... can prob find other sources as well

Thanks :driving:

So what would be one step up from the stocker pads? Something suitable for street / auto-x without noise and chewing up the rotors.

Carbotech bobcat, hp+, or ebc yellow stuff

Do not get the HP+ if you don't want to change rotors, they will destroy them. I went through 2 sets of Carbotech XP10s on my 350 with the same rotor. I had to replace them as soon as I used HP+.

I heard the Bobcat makes a lot of noise

Sadly, HP+ will chew through the rotor. I wish they didn't because they have such good cold bite. They are perfect for autoX.

The Nismo pads are great on the street. If you are a novice driver on the track they are also just fine. Once you move up to blue though you will need to upgrade. I will be replacing my Nismo brakes with the Hawk DTC-60's for the first time and track them early next month. Everyone who runs the 60's just loves them and they are rotor friendly.

Anyone else using Nismo pads??

Doubtful. They're overpriced and a marginal improvement at best over stock pads.

after reading through this thread, I still cannot get a good grasp of the pads I should eventually change mine to. i intend my driving to be aggresive street driving with very light track duty. i also plan to pick up the RA 2 piece rotors.

do i need anything other than the stock pads?

I like those RA 2 piecers myself, but $1700 is steep and I prolly wont get enough track use to justify them...

As for the pads, I've seen Proj. Mu getting props...

Has anyone used StopTech Green / Yellow / Red / Blue - Stuffs??

I'm surprised at how little EBC pads are spoken of here since they are very well regarded. Has anyone run the Redstuff/Yellowstuff pads on a Z? I had Redstuff pads on my last car and along with some high temp fluid, those brakes would not give up and just got better the harder you used them.

I'm running the RA 2 floating rotors for both street and track; however, I do not use the same pads for both. The OEM or the Hawk HPS for street are good (I really believe the OEM pad is better). Carbotech XP10/XP8 are great for light to medium track but are not advisable for street (dust, noise and performance). The RA rotors perform as well as Scott Bush says they will and are usable on the the daily driver if you don't mind the sound of tin cans being pulled behind you car. My son said the brakes (rotor/pad) on the track are awsome and not to screw with them. He suggested a couple of suspension tweaks. He is an instructor as well as SCCA and NASA certified. The question of the price of the RA floating rotors becomes a question of what you want. The RA's allow you to use your Akebono calipers without issues in my opinon, and they perform very well. I cannot address the situation of "racing" like RCZ, Mike, Spearfish and others as I will not be going there.

Just some random information on the stock pads: Motor Fan Illustrated, a very nice Japanese car magazine, had an indepth article comparing the Z33 and Z34. One of the items discussed where the brakes. According to the magazine the stock pads on the Z34 in Europe are of a more aggressive compound then those used in Japan and here in the US. So we get the less dusty, cruising oriented pads, Europe gets the dusty but more
Racy pads. I might have to buy a set of pads in Europe next time I go there to try this out...

Is that noise coming from both front and rear sets, or just the rear?

regarding carbotech bobcats I can confirm they squeal quite significantly - they were ok when I first got them but after a couple of track days they're extremely noisy especially at slower speeds. You can also get them to fade with consecutive hot laps

Will be swapping to endless Mx72's next month

Interesting -- do you have a part number? Don't see why we couldn't order the Euro pads in the US if we wanted to.

The front and rear rotors are of the same design, so they all make noise.
I would think all two piece floating rotors will rattle. I got use to this and now it's just background noise.

For dedicated racing brakes, yes, they will rattle. For 2-piece rotors that also get used on the street, there are several techniques that could (and should) be used to eliminate 90-100% of the rattle. There is no reason to put up with clanking rotors for street driving, even if you like to enjoy the occasional track day.

What techniques? Do tell.

Buy the AP two piece rotors instead?? :happydance:

J/K! also interested in what can be done to minimize the noise.

Float springs have been around for quite some time, just like those found on the R35 GT-R. A better approach for decoupled rotor assemblies is AP Racing's patented strap drive system, if it can be justified. This system provides all the benefits of a floating system without the problems of rattling, debris on the bobbins, etc. There are no moving parts in a strap drive assembly, so no issues with brake dust or any other gunk. No, these are not available for the 370Z at this time, but with enough serious interest a solution could be looked at...

Strap Drive Disc Assembly

http://stillen.com/images/upload/strap_drives_1200.jpg

The reality is that 2-piece floating rotors are not advantageous for 99.9% (or more) of drivers that use their cars on the street. Let's just say if you trailer your car to the track, you MAY be a candidate for a full-floating setup. For most part, 2-piece bolted disc assemblies (non-floating) will have most of the advantages people are looking for with less of the drawbacks.

Chris,
I was hoping for an all inclusive solution for the noisy floating rotor genre. The purchase of another (when available?) rotor set as a solution becomes a bit pricey.

Not sure what you are asking here. If you already have a set of full floating rotors, I would need to see details to understand if they were capable of being modified to accept one of the anti-rattle solutions. There is no generic fix as the parts must all work together properly.

I have a complete set of Relentless Autosports two piece floating rotors. They have been shown on several threads. Do you think there is an anti-rattle solution available for them?

Chris, I couldn't find a set of two piece bolted discs for the 370Z on the Stillen website, unless you have specific parts numbers for front and rear that's not on the website?

Still in the works, so nothing is on the site yet. I'm use the marketing crew will make some noise when these are nearly ready to go.

You'll have to speak with Scott @ Relentless on those. I don't have a set here to check if they are suitable for that type of modification. I'm not sure, by what he has posted, that these were ever intended to have such a feature. It would appear these were mostly for track duty, in which case rattle is not usually a concern.

RA also has two piece non floating setups available.

Chris B - What type of weight savings would AP's kit offer? Would slotted/drilled be options? Would the kit utlize the stock Akebono's?

I realize you may not be able to share these details, but I wanted to get the questions out.