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Boost_lee 07-14-2010 08:15 PM

Any updates from swift, anyone?

fuct 07-15-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 593429)
Yep, but I wouldn't want to pair the NISMO springs with the stock struts, honestly. And I definitely would never buy used springs. The Swift springs will be tested on the stockers, so I'd rather go with those if we're talking about pairing a set of springs with the stock struts.

you can buy new springs off ebay:tup:

wishihadnav 07-18-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 624486)
Any updates from swift, anyone?

Not yet..hopefully very soon..testing should all be done and ready for release.

Boost_lee 07-18-2010 06:18 PM

I hope the drop is near the Eibach, or just a tad bit more so I can get away with stock hardware for an alignment.

Can't wait to see the final specs and price

Boost_lee 08-02-2010 04:22 PM

I received an update from Swift via email today:

Quote:

The drop should be about 1 inch all around.

And the spring rates are 10kg front and 10.5kg rear.

We are not going to be releasing the Sport springs. We are going straight for the Spec R's. They are faily aggressive rates and are going to be very performance oriented. They will be comfortable enough to be daily driven.

They are going to ready in a month and a half.

Thanks for looking into Swift.

Best Regards,
Sales


tbonesteak 08-03-2010 01:35 AM

no dice for me once again. i was hoping ~.5" all around with softer rates. :(

CFZ 08-03-2010 01:25 PM

My friend recieved a test prototype set for his Z and I drove it around. Honestly you would probably have to drive it to believe it, but it really is more comfortable than stock, but it corners like your on a set of coilovers.

I didn't realize that so much of the road vibrations is felt through the car, until I drove the 370z with the Swift springs on it. The owner says he loves them but says that Swift might change it up a little bit for the production model.

I am already pretty much sold on them so I will do a write up on them when the production model comes out.

Anyways I have pictures of the car lowered on it. Cell phone pics but should be decent quality.
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/a...J/100_4591.jpg

mattjk 08-03-2010 03:05 PM

perfect!

speedworks 08-03-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CFZ (Post 657622)
I didn't realize that so much of the road vibrations is felt through the car, until I drove the 370z with the Swift springs on it.

That is the stiffer spring that causes that. This above statement, to me, contradicts where you say that they are supposedly more comfortable then stock.

I do like the look though. And if Andy Porterfield (testimonial on their site) says they are good, then I might be interested.

WarmAndSCSI 08-03-2010 08:05 PM

I like that drop... if the ride quality is good, I'm sold.

kenchan 08-03-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 658122)
I like that drop... if the ride quality is good, I'm sold.

really? i thought for sure you'd go KW V3's. :tup:

CFZ 08-04-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 658074)
That is the stiffer spring that causes that. This above statement, to me, contradicts where you say that they are supposedly more comfortable then stock.

I do like the look though. And if Andy Porterfield (testimonial on their site) says they are good, then I might be interested.

I meant that I didnt know that there were so much road vibrations felt from the stock springs until I put the Swifts on there. In other words the Swift dampened the road surface.

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

fuct 08-04-2010 11:29 AM

odd, because my tein springs brought MORE road vibrations and such...

wishihadnav 08-04-2010 12:15 PM

the spec r's are going to be linear/progressive combo...the reason they did this is to soak bumps and seat the springs better..this will be a very street friendly spring but sill offer great performance.

takeshima 08-04-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 658876)
odd, because my tein springs brought MORE road vibrations and such...

You can't compare tein and Swift.
Tein uses cheap materials sags instantly, makes all roads feel rough, and they are just that, cheap springs.

Swift's are well known as a high quality spring. In fact there probably isnt a spring thats better quality. Now drop heights and rates are subjective. But then i am sure that they have done their homework

speedworks 08-04-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFZ (Post 658752)
I meant that I didnt know that there were so much road vibrations felt from the stock springs until I put the Swifts on there. In other words the Swift dampened the road surface.

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

Ah, ok, you are actually saying that with the swift, you didn't feel anything, vs what you felt with OEM. Very interesting.

wishihadnav 08-04-2010 04:47 PM

pretty much Swift>any thing else...extremly linear and lightweight perfect coilover spring for track whores..haha

Jeffblue 08-04-2010 04:56 PM

interesting. if it handles as good or better than OEM, is LESS harsh on rough roads, and is a modest enough,yet noticable drop that i dont need to get a camber kit etc i'm sold.

BeachZTT 08-04-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 659545)
interesting. if it handles as good or better than OEM, is LESS harsh on rough roads, and is a modest enough,yet noticable drop that i dont need to get a camber kit etc i'm sold.

Subscribed! Sounds like what I am looking for too.

akoo 08-04-2010 07:59 PM

Looks like this might be my choice if I don't go for coilovers.

LunaZ 08-04-2010 08:22 PM

Subbed!

Red__Zed 08-05-2010 09:45 AM

looks interesting...

tazma61 08-08-2010 02:56 AM

I guess i should chime in since i have the production spec swift springs on my car...

the ride:
It's softer than stock springs over road imperfections and bumps, but there is less leaning in cornering. I know it sounds like an oxymoron, but you would have to drive on it to understand. The springs are softer for regular driving, but stiffens up for cornering.

the drop:
front - 1.2 inches
rear - 1.0 inch
Originally, the springs were thought to be 1.0 inches all around, but after measuring, it was 1.2 inches in the front and 1.0 inches in the rear. I think it's a good drop since there is still some wheel gap but I don't know what others are willing to live with. I'm not a fan of driving slammed cars, so this is perfect for me.

overall:
I've had the springs for about a month now, and the ride is the same as the day it was installed and the ride height hasn't changed either. I was lucky enough to chat in length with the owner of Swift Springs USA, and I'm very impressed with their product technology. The Swift Springs are cold wound which means that they will not sag, or lose it's original form, hence the lack of sag over time. We even tested other springs on a spring compressor to see how most springs out there that are hot wound would sag, and not spring back to the original height. I could see why Swift Springs are more expensive now.

Boost_lee 08-08-2010 04:55 PM

Great to hear, thanks for the update!

Did your car require a camber kit to get the camber/toe within acceptable specs? If so, Front, Rear or both?

Zeester 08-08-2010 11:05 PM

So its the basically almost the same drop as the H&R springs, very nice !

How would you compare these with the H&Rs, are they stiffer ?

CFZ 08-09-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tazma61 (Post 664491)
i guess i should chime in since i have the production spec swift springs on my car...

the ride:
it's softer than stock springs over road imperfections and bumps, but there is less leaning in cornering. I know it sounds like an oxymoron, but you would have to drive on it to understand. The springs are softer for regular driving, but stiffens up for cornering.

the drop:
front - 1.2 inches
rear - 1.0 inch
originally, the springs were thought to be 1.0 inches all around, but after measuring, it was 1.2 inches in the front and 1.0 inches in the rear. I think it's a good drop since there is still some wheel gap but i don't know what others are willing to live with. I'm not a fan of driving slammed cars, so this is perfect for me.

overall:
i've had the springs for about a month now, and the ride is the same as the day it was installed and the ride height hasn't changed either. I was lucky enough to chat in length with the owner of swift springs usa, and i'm very impressed with their product technology. The swift springs are cold wound which means that they will not sag, or lose it's original form, hence the lack of sag over time. We even tested other springs on a spring compressor to see how most springs out there that are hot wound would sag, and not spring back to the original height. I could see why swift springs are more expensive now.

pictures!!!!!

wolf370z 08-09-2010 10:16 PM

Definitely subscribed, most interested in compatibility with stock struts

tazma61 08-10-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 665105)
Great to hear, thanks for the update!

Did your car require a camber kit to get the camber/toe within acceptable specs? If so, Front, Rear or both?

I have to get the camber kits for both front and rear if I want to be completely within specs, but I don't mind a little negative camber in the rear and the front. I believe the rear is about -2.1 and the front is -1.4 I'll double check later

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeester (Post 665639)
So its the basically almost the same drop as the H&R springs, very nice !

How would you compare these with the H&Rs, are they stiffer ?

I can't comment on the H&R's but from what I hear, the H&R are stiffer than the stock springs on regular basis. Swift Springs are a much softer ride over little bumps and road imperfections.

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Originally Posted by CFZ (Post 666162)
pictures!!!!!

Before:
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/s...june2010-8.jpg

After:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...10/JeriLee.jpg

BeachZTT 08-10-2010 01:57 PM

Swift tells me that they are "extremely excited about the springs being released for the 370Z" and that they should release "mid next month".

mattjk 08-10-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tazma61 (Post 668268)

That looks aweful, like you have a ton of bricks in the trunk with stock springs. Why is the front so high?

fuct 08-10-2010 04:17 PM

^^^yeah what gives??

WarmAndSCSI 08-10-2010 04:19 PM

Could be the soft ground. Doesn't show much unless he has a picture on flat, hard, level ground.

Also, I only see a little bit of front gap - the offsets and shadows are misleading.

tjlazer 08-10-2010 05:32 PM

Well thats the thing I dont like. Some springs will lower the rear too much to make the car look level and you dont want that. You want to keep the rear higher a little bit for hauling bricks, or fat chics. LOL j/k

takeshima 08-10-2010 06:07 PM

dude wat kind of picture is that. You have to have another picture.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...S/100_4689.jpg
Nismo on Swifts.

BeachZTT 08-10-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 668722)
Could be the soft ground. Doesn't show much unless he has a picture on flat, hard, level ground.

Also, I only see a little bit of front gap - the offsets and shadows are misleading.

...as well as the angle of the shot and the distortion of the lens. If you look at the wheels, you can see that the front to rear looks out of perportion in that particular shot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by takeshima (Post 668903)


Nismo on Swifts.

Very nice! Stance looks great.

azn370z 08-10-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takeshima (Post 668903)
dude wat kind of picture is that. You have to have another picture.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...S/100_4689.jpg
Nismo on Swifts.

The front gap looks more than the rear gap, which I think makes it look weird. The h&r springs feel like oem to me, I would prefer a little bit more stiff.

wolf370z 08-10-2010 08:48 PM

The front definitely looks a bit higher than the rear... seems like H&R might be what I'm looking for...

mattjk 08-10-2010 09:24 PM

Thanks, takeshima. Much better picture. I guess I'll be going with H&R's also.

I've had Shift springs on my last three cars, so I know there are great... but I just want something lower, and H&R's have been getting very good feedback from owners.

takeshima 08-11-2010 10:25 AM

I don't see it. Why does it look like the front is a tad bit lower to me. The shade looks like it shades the front tires more than the rears.
but I think the drop is plenty but I'm sure it's not as low as H&R. I'm sure you can't satisfy everybody.

CFZ 08-11-2010 10:38 AM

Well I was told that they are making minor changes to the rideheight for the production model, the springs released right now are only prototypes. I'm sure they would be leveling out the body if it is raked, but I'm not sure if its going to be raised or lowered. All we can do is wait and see.

AZN370Z- The Swift are said to be 10k and 10.5k. That is a good amount stiffer than the Nismo. I'm pretty sure they are the stiffest springs on the market now.

Takeshima- I think the car looks great.


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