Coilover Adjustments for height and Pre-tension
 

So I have a set of KW's and SPC camber kit sitting in my garage waiting to be installed this Saturday by a shop.

Question is by looking at what I got in the box compared to pics on these forums on the V3 is that they are different. No replacement coils for the rear included. Also, how do you adjust the ride height? I had coilovers on my Subie before and this required unbolting the bottom bolt of the strut/shock and turning the body. Tidious, but only way to do it right. You could add more pre-tension on the coils by moving the collars upwards, but that would make the spring stiffer as well as drop height.

By looking at the KW's, you will be using the oem spring coils and adjust height by adjusting the collar up or down? I tried this and it doesnt seem to preload any more tension on the yellow springs..

This has been bothering me ever since I got em to try and figure them out. Also disappointed there is no turn handle for front Struts up top or easier way to adjust dampner at the bottoms..

so your saying the KWs reuse the OEM rear springs?? That doesnt sound right. Can you take some pics of whats in the box?

I'll take some pics and post tomorrow. I only got 1 box in the mail and it only had the 2 struts and rear shocks with the coils..

Coils around the shocks don't look wide enough or stought enought to replace the oem ones..

Im contacting INTENSEPOWER now...

Here is the pic..
Box descriptions says its for a Nissan 200sx, S14

Coilover pic:
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Box description and part number:
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I'd be upset if I find out this is the wrong part as I got an appt for install this Sat, but I did a search on this part and I found a thread that I need item 35285007.
Anyone who have theirs already, can you verify for me I got the right one?

Sorry to say it but you got the wrong parts.

Yup,.it sucks,.

I sent an email, PM, reply, etc to Intensepower to remedy the problem.
Hope to hear from them tomorrow with a solution especially since I got an appt Sat.

That sucks. I hope they ship you the right parts overnight to make your appointment.

I just got off the phone with IntensePower and they are really helpful and ready to ship out today correct part (if I needed it) with prepaid shipping to me and return shipping to send back what I have but,.......

But they got a message from KW stating that the 200sx part is also the same as the 370z/G37 and also no replacement coils for the rear are included...so part number KW 35285007 (370z/G35) is same as 35285003 (what I got for the 200sx/s14)

Im waiting on the email that KW sent Intensepower to verify this...In the meantime, can anyone already with their KW V3's verify this? Did you get the same part number?

Edit: So I called KW to verify and they are cool too...they said I did get wrong part number as 35286003 is for G37 which is same as 370z..
Whoever packed and shipped sent out 35285003 which is for 240z... Yeah confusing...and hope this gets straightened out...:)

The rears shocks have to be separate from the coils, nissan designed it this way.

If you want to have the coils and shocks combined you have to reinforce the frame of the car to take the additional stress.

Return those and get the better version of the kw.

yup those are def the wrong coilovers for the 370z...and no way the S14 uses the same part# as the 370z as the rear coils are seperate from the strut (as azn already mentioned). Also dissapointing that KW says they are using the same part for 370z/G37/G35, if I read that right, as these cars should all have different spring rates and dampening due to their weight and distribution.

Called Intensepower early this morning at 6am Hawaii time to hopefully get this resolved and shipped out as I know that mainland is 3hr ahead West coast.

Anyways,..we got the part number figured out and fact that I got the wrong part,..called them back a few hrs ago for and update and they admitted fault. They will have to resolve in a meeting or something if they can bite the bullet to pay to ship out next day air or in some manner that I get it in my hands by Friday afternoon. I hardly doubt this now as I know that it needed to get out today as 2 day air for mainland is 3 days to Hawaii. I had to change my work schedule for a Saturday install and alignment/friend's shop was booked all last week. So I have my spot for Sat morn,...just hope I dont lose it..

Again I can install the rear myself, but fronts I would have to uninstall and bring to shop anyways to get tophats off. Also, dont have much time on weekends now due to work and wife to tend to...you know how that is,...But there is nothing more I rather do but wrench on my car...bad luck on this order I guess....

Ok,..yeah this sucks,..I had to cancel my appt for this Saturday, my work schedule again and made another appt for next Sat.

I didnt get any phone call or update yesterday to see if they would send out my correct part for my scheduled appt that I did tell them about. They needed to get approval as shipping to Hawaii is very expensive.

It was their fault though and should have done so for customer appreciation, but $400-$500 is too much to cover for Overnight or 2nd Day air.. Just a little dissappointed that no one got back to me yesterday or followed up as promised to let me know the haps..

Anyways,. will see how this pans out as it is a great price and shipping was quick the 1st time, just that I got the wrong part was the error,..they should've billed/docked the employee's paycheck to send it out to me, but that's my opinion..

ok,..done venting.. :shakes head:

That really sucks. I think they're one of the bigger vendors. Hopefully they do the right thing. I bought a couple things from several vendors here and made me think about the vendors I buy from, to me better service is more important than price. Some vendors I wil never buy from again.

yea great,..:shakes head:

No word or call back from them today either since Wednesday morning on how they are handling this..

Ill need a response by Monday so I can get delivery in my hands by next Saturday and to ensure my install date for next Saturday...

probably not going to buy from intensepower, thanks for the heads up.

I think that it is bad luck on my part that I actually got the wrong item.
someone was just being lazy or careless in reading the part number, but I can see where the mistake was made..

In all fairness, they have been nothing but courteous and have been mailing to hawaii something that weighs 50lbs 2nd Day air,..and that is not cheap,..

My gripe is that I just havent been contacted personally and had to follow up on my part to get results, but for everyone else that is on the mainland would probably get better service/results due to the shipping issue.

I found out today that they have prepaid the FedEx back last Thursday (again something that no one contacted me about; they said they sent me email??) and that I have to pack up and drop off to FedEX to send back the wrong Coilovers I got ,...they said that my correct coilovers are on the way, or as they say "Cross-shipping"...

It was a good price and 2nd day air to boot for free on the shipping, so I would still give them all a chance....we all make mistakes..

ups/fedex ground also takes 3 days to arrive and much cheaper on their part to ship, too bad we don't have the ups/fedex ground option to the mainland

FedEx tracking says they got their CO early this morning Hawaii time..
No word or anything from IntensePower on the status of my correct part being sent out to me...

I guess I have to cancel Saturday's install again..

It is in route to you already I will forward the tracking sir!

I truly apologize for the mistake that KW made as WE did not ship them out.

Thank you for the patience in the process.

So no wonder i get no shipping details,..KW should really keep you/customers in the mix,...

:bs:

Yeah,..so I get a PM stating their server was down or not running right from IntensePower,..

So, Im still waiting on "any" kind of update from someone to whether or not it will be, has been, or no one knows, about my order...

The G37 KW V3 kit also fits on the 370Z right? I was told it should fit on a 370Z, the box says G37 tho.

It will fit but the g37 is heavier so it needs different springs.

Different springs? Im getting it installed on monday, will it be alright?

You would have to ask the maker if it will be ok I'm sure the store will say it's ok. Even though the g37 and 370z are very similar, two versions of the suspensions are made. I'm pretty sure the springs are different not sure if they change the dampening of the shocks.

abakja1,
Sorry to hear about what you are going through... both KW and the distributor should have been in better communication to you about all this.



NewYorkJon34,
Not only should the springs be different between the G37 and the 370Z coilover kit, the shock bodies should be different too (longer). The G37 is a bigger car and its suspension mounting points are a bit higher off the ground thus it will require a longer shock body than the 370Z to be right.
At least that is how most quality coilovers do it. I am sure that the G37 coilovers will physically bolt on the the 370Z, but it might sit higher and be out of the height adjustment range it was designed for.



Good luck to you both

yeah it bites,....but I was told to expect a package on Tuesday....
Actually the above threads about the G37 and Z being the same part number and part is true....it is actually why I was given the wrong part as the G37 ended with the same part number as the Z....problem was the middle numbers dont match and I ended up with CO for a 240z,...

KWV3 for 370z: 35285007
KWV3 for G37: 35286003

If anyone needs to know, the SPC camber arms are the same part number for the G37 and 370z. (72260)



That's weird you got different coilovers...lol

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...all/kdubs2.jpghttp://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...tall/kdubs.jpgThose brakes are history.... paperclips...lol

Even tho they are different part numbers, I was told that these will fit & work, is that correct?

I'm sure it would fit.

Oh yeah,..its wednesday night,....no Coilovers yet....
this is the worse parts buy ever.....

damn, really??? I would have thought they would be there by now.

So I finally got them in...Was promised that they come in on tuesday, but was shipped on Tues due to volcano in iceland stopping all air traffic in europe,...now that is bad luck on my part...

Anyways,..I got them...had them installed today...I have a great mechanic, he did this for me last minute and he will get them adjusted on Monday to raise it a 1/2" all around as I cannot get up my ~30 deg incline driveway. My FI rear cans would begin to scrape badly (CF ones).. However, the drive with it on my way home was awesome. No rattles, creaks, etc. Great ride and quiet...I would maybe adjust the dampening a little softer tho..

Here are some pics I took with my Iphone when I got to the shop....it was a difficult time getting it off the rack as well...

http://i43.tinypic.com/w2oigj.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z3nnrl.jpg

Hi res pics

Car and my dredded Driveway...
Anyone who is a contractor/DIYer know what I can do to get up my driveway?? Big box is the change in slope, small box is where the FI Cannisters are scrapping.. I have a home depot and lowe's in my area...


http://i40.tinypic.com/9tn0o3.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2iqy53a.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/k9dif9.jpg

Looking good...

Do you scrape going up, down, or both?

I can get my front end up the beginning of the driveway,..when the car is at an angle, the rear end drags the cans at the bottom of the driveway..

Adjusted and all is good,..I can get up my driveway now since the rear is lifted high enough...I may make adjustments myself to lower the front 1/2" though,...I miss the road eye level before the 1/2" lift in the front.

So what is your final drop height? 1/2 inch?

yes and no,..
1/2" in the rear and going to adjust to 3/4" up front to try out..

Update: I may have to re-adjust the collar....Mechanic says to turn collar upwards to lower height..This correct??..I turned collar 2 turns upwards in wanting to drop the fronts only...Will let it go since its easy to readjust,..but will get back to it this week if turning collar down 4 turns will ldrop the height like I intentionally wanted to..
Took measurements and it was 25.5." from ground to top of wheel arch...I figure I gotta give it a couple days to settle, but the passanger side looks the same height if not 1/8" lower. The driver side is oddly 1/4" higher. Not sure if jacking up and doing the driver side last has anythign to do with the difference in height at this time (adding weight and compressing the passanger side since I jacked up and completed the driver side last.)

This is with driving for 2 days after install...yesterday and today...