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LaSeeno 01-17-2010 01:36 PM

Best coilover brands for street use?
 
I'm looking for a coilover that will be used for 100% street use. Basically, just want to lower the Z and would like something reliable. I don't want something that needs to be modified, rubs, or any other annoyance.

Looking for a setup that will bolt-on hassle free and is a quality piece.

LiquidZ 01-17-2010 02:13 PM

I think springs would be better for your application.

LaSeeno 01-17-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 364308)
I think springs would be better for your application.

A lot cheaper too. I just don't want to ghetto rig my ride.

Recommendations?

LiquidZ 01-17-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 364330)
A lot cheaper too. I just don't want to ghetto rig my ride.

Recommendations?

You wont be ghetto rigging your ride at all. Springs are an accepted alternative to coilovers for people who can deal without the adjustability.

I would recommend Eibach or Tanabe. I don't know much about Tein's offering.

OMGWTFBBQ 01-17-2010 02:52 PM

I'd recommend the Eibachs as well.

Edit: Actually, how much are you looking to lower your car? The spring rates are slightly different as well if I'm not mistaken.

LaSeeno 01-17-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 364366)
I'd recommend the Eibachs as well.

Edit: Actually, how much are you looking to lower your car? The spring rates are slightly different as well if I'm not mistaken.

Maybe an inch or so. I Just want to close the gap a little.

speedworks 01-18-2010 08:57 PM

Springs will be fine, but remember with coilovers the shocks and springs are matched (or at least they should be). In coilovers, the shocks are designed (valved for compression and rebound) around the spring rates vs with just springs, you will use the oem shocks or aftermarkets (koni, kgbs, etc), and since they aren't designed together, they will either fail earlier (can't handle the difference in performance), or won't feel exactly right. I have had springs with aftermarket shocks on many sports cars, and it is an affordable way to go, but they are usually not as smooth or comfortable (sometimes even jittery). I lot of design goes into the way shocks and springs work together, and when mismatched, they don't work exactly like they should. On the otherhand, an affordable coilover, of which I have been looking at, and others on this forum have talked positive about is the BC Racing BRs (under 1k). Good luck with whichever route you go. For what it is worth, I think the Eibachs or H&Rs are the best.

Trips 01-18-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 366020)
Springs will be fine, but remember with coilovers the shocks and springs are matched (or at least they should be). In coilovers, the shocks are designed (valved for compression and rebound) around the spring rates vs with just springs, you will use the oem shocks or aftermarkets (koni, kgbs, etc), and since they aren't designed together, they will either fail earlier (can't handle the difference in performance), or won't feel exactly right. I have had springs with aftermarket shocks on many sports cars, and it is an affordable way to go, but they are usually not as smooth or comfortable (sometimes even jittery). I lot of design goes into the way shocks and springs work together, and when mismatched, they don't work exactly like they should. On the otherhand, an affordable coilover, of which I have been looking at, and others on this forum have talked positive about is the BC Racing BRs (under 1k). Good luck with whichever route you go. For what it is worth, I think the Eibachs or H&Rs are the best.

:iagree:

LaSeeno 01-19-2010 01:33 AM

I bought just springs (H&R) for my Audi S4 and absolutely hated the result. That's why I assumed I would buy the whole deal. To me, 1-2k for a drop that looks good and is comfortable is better than $300 for something that feels cheap. The Z is only a 30k car but I don't want to do just springs if it's going to ride like a 10 year old DSM.

schrute 01-19-2010 01:42 AM

Hey man if you can afford coilovers and want some do it. If I had the $ right now I would get some - I got the eibach springs instead (haven't received them yet but won't put them on until the spring). Most here seem to be happy with the eibachs so I'm looking forward to it. May get some c/o's down the road, time will tell.

I did put c/o's on my Titan and it was a HUGE improvement. GL finding the right setup for your Z.

schrute 01-19-2010 01:47 AM

Oh yeah, KW V3's seem to be a popular choice for street.

1slow370 01-19-2010 07:29 AM

get springs then wait for stock style struts with adjustable dampening like AGX's?

speedworks 01-19-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 366306)
get springs then wait for stock style struts with adjustable dampening like AGX's?

I've gone this route many times before, with the AGXs, and they never work out exactly right - they just never match up, and you already have 600-700 into the suspension. Whats another 250 to get a matched set.

JB-370z 01-19-2010 10:23 AM

HKS has the perfect balance of street/track.

corner3garage 01-19-2010 12:11 PM

From my personal experience I have had better luck with the tanabe's. I've just had some friend's that have had their springs starting to sag and underperform after a long period of use.

JB-370z 01-19-2010 12:33 PM

not cheap to replace either!

feelzpwr91 01-19-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 364361)
You wont be ghetto rigging your ride at all. Springs are an accepted alternative to coilovers for people who can deal without the adjustability.

I would recommend Eibach or Tanabe. I don't know much about Tein's offering.

Tein S-tech springs would be the best way to go.

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Sharif@Forged 01-20-2010 03:01 PM

I prefer a good coilover system with springs and valving to match. This way, you have a long term solution that will not deteriorate over time. For a comfortable ride, and great adjustability without noises....I would suggest the KW Variant 3. Forged Performance, LLC :: G37 :: Suspension/Brakes :: Coilovers :: KW Coilover Variant 3 370z/ Infiniti G37

speedworks 01-20-2010 09:58 PM

All of you recommending KWs I think are missing his predicament. If he could afford 2k, sure that would be great, but if he is looking at springs only, I'm sure $$ is an issue - so he really needs advice on affordable coilovers. There are roughly 5 brands in the 1k range, and I am presuming this price range would work for him. If $$ is not the case, then I stand corrected.

Sharif@Forged 01-20-2010 10:07 PM

KW's are less than 2K but more than 1K. I know opinions may vary, but I would rather take my chances with springs, rather then the 1K coilovers over the market.

LaSeeno 01-21-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 368545)
All of you recommending KWs I think are missing his predicament. If he could afford 2k, sure that would be great, but if he is looking at springs only, I'm sure $$ is an issue - so he really needs advice on affordable coilovers. There are roughly 5 brands in the 1k range, and I am presuming this price range would work for him. If $$ is not the case, then I stand corrected.

Thanks for looking out but I originally posted for a good street coilover system because I don't track my car. Springs are really cheap but I would rather spend $2,300 if it's going to ride properly and last a long time.

I guess there's really no other option than to buy a pair in the $2k range.

Is there a clear cut winner between...

HKS and KW?

Sharif@Forged 01-21-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 368790)
Thanks for looking out but I originally posted for a good street coilover system because I don't track my car. Springs are really cheap but I would rather spend $2,300 if it's going to ride properly and last a long time.

I guess there's really no other option than to buy a pair in the $2k range.

Is there a clear cut winner between...

HKS and KW?

For full street use, the KW Variant 3's are the way to go. They are less expensive, and more compliant for street use. They make noises at all, and you will love them for daily driving and spirited mountain runs.

speedworks 01-21-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 368790)
Thanks for looking out but I originally posted for a good street coilover system because I don't track my car. Springs are really cheap but I would rather spend $2,300 if it's going to ride properly and last a long time.

I guess there's really no other option than to buy a pair in the $2k range.

Is there a clear cut winner between...

HKS and KW?

Sorry, my bad - listen to those that have the pricier coilovers.

LaSeeno 01-21-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 368903)
Sorry, my bad - listen to those that have the pricier coilovers.

It's not about who has "pricier coilovers".

From what I've gathered in the limited research I've done...

1. 1K coilovers have QC issues.
2. Buying just springs results in a jittery ride and increased wear on OEM shocks/struts.

Is this incorrect?

I'm by no means rich but if it comes down spending 1k for something I will regret or replace in a year and spending 2k for something backed by a good warranty and will last at least three years is there really a debate?

speedworks 01-21-2010 12:25 PM

I think you can get a good setup for 1k. Check out the BC Racing setup. Some of the users have it on their cars. I am actually looking into it, because for street use, I think it will provide what I want (lower the car, provide a slighter stiffer suspension/car, and provide a designed match between the shock and spring). The more expensive setups are probably better on a track (personally haven't reviewed any data), but aren't needed for the street. Honestly, how often will you adjust your shocks or ride height if all you do is drive on public roads? Every adjustable suspension I have had, I only adjusted it when I was at the track - now that I have a dedicated racecar, I won't be doing it for the Z. Therefore, I think BC Racing will perform better then springs (Eibach, Tanabe, H&R) matched to (Koni's, KYB, Penske's etc), and I don't have to pay roughly double for performance that I don't need or will use.

ChrisSlicks 01-21-2010 01:24 PM

I wouldn't trust all $1K coilovers by default, but the BC Racing coilovers to appear to be built with good quality. Like speedworks stated, they are going to perform a heck of a lot better than just spring upgrades because the rates are tuned together, plus they are adjustable in both height and compression/rebound. Mike Bonanni has been using them on track for a year and hasn't broken them yet.

speedworks 01-21-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 369081)
I wouldn't trust all $1K coilovers by default

And I absolutely agree with this - you will have to research, which is what I am still doing, to confirm.

cantadaniel 01-29-2010 01:02 PM

ksport
 
how is ksport kontrol pro?

Liquid_G 01-29-2010 02:00 PM

Maybe look into the Stance GR+ coilovers.... You can get those for around 1100 from some vendors here.

Stealth_Z 01-29-2010 03:47 PM

Did tanabe release the coilovers yet?

mattkim85 02-24-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth_Z (Post 380445)
Did tanabe release the coilovers yet?

yes, i have had them on my car since august, last year

they are horrible for street use IMO.

I am switching to KW V3's next month.

RCZ 02-24-2010 10:58 PM

KW V3 is the best street coilover.

FuszNissan 02-25-2010 08:24 AM

KW seems to be the popular vote

Sharif@Forged 02-25-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 416476)
KW V3 is the best street coilover.

Agreed, for 95% street use, and the person that does 1-2 track events a year. If you can live with a little firmer ride (but not harsh), and you plan on doing more track work with the car, I would suggest the TEIN Flex or TEIN Monoflex.

37Z 02-25-2010 06:32 PM

kw coilover plug
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 368026)
I prefer a good coilover system with springs and valving to match. This way, you have a long term solution that will not deteriorate over time. For a comfortable ride, and great adjustability without noises....I would suggest the KW Variant 3. Forged Performance, LLC :: G37 :: Suspension/Brakes :: Coilovers :: KW Coilover Variant 3 370z/ Infiniti G37

Shamless plugs deserve a discount! KW have a good rep.

Sharif@Forged 02-25-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 417499)
Shamless plugs deserve a discount! KW have a good rep.

We'll beat anyone's prices, and we have some of the most experienced technical people in the business....everything installed, tested, and given the Forge seal of approval. No questions shall go unanswered. :tup:

37Z 02-25-2010 06:47 PM

Penke coilovers for 370Z
 
I always had great luck with penke's. I'm not sure if the have a suspension spec fror the 370Z. Any infor?

Sharif@Forged 02-25-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 417509)
I always had great luck with penke's. I'm not sure if the have a suspension spec fror the 370Z. Any infor?

Penske doesn't make anything in this range for the 370Z.

kevin.z 02-26-2010 10:13 PM

for best and most performance, do u need to purchase front and rear camber kits along with the coilvers?
thanks

CrownR426 02-26-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin.z (Post 419636)
for best and most performance, do u need to purchase front and rear camber kits along with the coilvers?
thanks

Yes.:driving:


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