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bluestyle55 02-27-2010 08:04 AM

When people say 'Track'....are we talking about like Watkins Glen type of track or are we talking about auto cross track (hosted in large parking lots). I would like get some coilovers primarily for steet use but I also auto cross (6-8) times a year. Would I be good with the V3's or BC's??

CrownR426 02-27-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55 (Post 420063)
When people say 'Track'....are we talking about like Watkins Glen type of track or are we talking about auto cross track (hosted in large parking lots). I would like get some coilovers primarily for steet use but I also auto cross (6-8) times a year. Would I be good with the V3's or BC's??

Go with BC's! :tup:

Sharif@Forged 02-27-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55 (Post 420063)
When people say 'Track'....are we talking about like Watkins Glen type of track or are we talking about auto cross track (hosted in large parking lots). I would like get some coilovers primarily for steet use but I also auto cross (6-8) times a year. Would I be good with the V3's or BC's??

How competitive are you looking to be with AutoX? I would lean towards TEIN for this.

Xan 02-27-2010 10:16 AM

Tein > BC on performance. But Tein < BC on cost.
So the better one might be clear, but I'm still not sure the extra money is justified for a couple of track runs.

Sharif, if the question would be best bang fo buck. What would your opinion be?

StealthZ 03-01-2010 07:39 PM

my understanding and talking to the vendors is:
Tracking on road courses and autox-Tein mono's
Autox and street- Tein/KW V3
Steet-KW V3

And for that reason I'm planning a soon purchase of the Mono Flex's

kevin.z 03-02-2010 12:39 AM

which one is better in terms of performance? tein flex or monoflex? mono is like $300 more than flex

B1nks 03-02-2010 01:41 PM

Mono is.^^

B1nks 03-02-2010 01:42 PM

I really like the KW V3 myself. I've had them on my 350z and now have them on my 370z. I would really like to check out the Robispec modification on the KW Variant 3 suspension whenever I get to that part of the build.

3SeventyZ 03-02-2010 02:43 PM

Getting the KW V3's installed next Wednesday.

:tup:

Sharif@Forged 03-02-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.z (Post 424969)
which one is better in terms of performance? tein flex or monoflex? mono is like $300 more than flex

Mono flex is a Mono Tube version of the Flex. In paper the Mono Flex is will offer higher performance. The Mono also comes with a 14kg spring package vs. the 12kg spring package in the regular Flex. So for those that want a slightly more comfortably for street use, pick the regular flex. Personally, I love my Mono's. :)

jmlenz 03-02-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno (Post 364263)
I'm looking for a coilover that will be used for 100% street use. Basically, just want to lower the Z and would like something reliable. I don't want something that needs to be modified, rubs, or any other annoyance.

Looking for a setup that will bolt-on hassle free and is a quality piece.

I too was looking for a street coilover a little while back. My criteria was a more agressive drop than springs provide, improved handling characteristics, adjustablity, and a ride that isnt too harsh (no track duty in my future).

My choice was Megan coilovers. $870 shipped to my door. Yes, they may not hold up to the $2k coilovers on the track, but thats not what this thread is about. They are a good street coilover with decent dampening and a wide array of adjustment. I personally roll full soft and it is just slightly firmer than OEM sport. They get a bad rap bc of price and some say "QC issues". But after a month of research on all types of cars running Megans, I found no more issues with them than any of the other, more expensive brands. Just google "XXX brand coilovers + problems" and you will find issues in all makes/brands. They are made in the same factory by the same people that make BC coilovers too and those have seen a strong following in the 370z community as well. Myself and 3 or 4 others run these coilovers on this forum and we are all mostly satisfied. Cost was not the only deciding factor for me, I ran $1900 Tein Flex coilovers on my 350z and frankly they were not worth 2x the price IMHO. As far as bang for the buck...these are decent bet....just my .02

Oh..and they have the rear dampening adjustment on the side of the strut body so you dont have to strip the trunk plastics or run extenders to adjust the rear, only ones that have that feature that I know of.

bluestyle55 03-02-2010 07:24 PM

I've owed Megan Coilovers on my RSX and was really happy with them. However I am into Auto Cross now and am apprehensive when I keep reading about cheaper coilovers not being good to track. Wish someone could technically explain how the more expensive coilovers are manufactured 'stronger'???

Philipp 03-02-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55 (Post 426066)
I've owed Megan Coilovers on my RSX and was really happy with them. However I am into Auto Cross now and am apprehensive when I keep reading about cheaper coilovers not being good to track. Wish someone could technically explain how the more expensive coilovers are manufactured 'stronger'???

The only way of speaking from the "horse's mouth" is to purchase a more expensive set of coilovers (ex.KW3). Only then, someone can really fell and comment on the experience!

ps. However, only a very very limited of owners can go thru this phases due to constrains (economics, time, issues etc...).

ps2. Personally, I will skip "experience #1" and go with "experience #2" right away!!!

kevr6 03-02-2010 08:24 PM

I currently have the Megan coilovers but have decided to try the KW product next! I will post once I have some comparison info!!

nogoodname 03-02-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp (Post 426116)
The only way of speaking from the "horse's mouth" is to purchase a more expensive set of coilovers (ex.KW3). Only then, someone can really fell and comment on the experience!

ps. However, only a very very limited of owners can go thru this phases due to constrains (economics, time, issues etc...).

ps2. Personally, I will skip "experience #1" and go with "experience #2" right away!!!

haha... I agree!



Also, if anyone gets H&R or Tein springs.. your shocks won't last at all. Get coilovers instead.

G35guy84 03-02-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlenz (Post 425853)
I too was looking for a street coilover a little while back. My criteria was a more agressive drop than springs provide, improved handling characteristics, adjustablity, and a ride that isnt too harsh (no track duty in my future).

My choice was Megan coilovers. $870 shipped to my door. Yes, they may not hold up to the $2k coilovers on the track, but thats not what this thread is about. They are a good street coilover with decent dampening and a wide array of adjustment. I personally roll full soft and it is just slightly firmer than OEM sport. They get a bad rap bc of price and some say "QC issues". But after a month of research on all types of cars running Megans, I found no more issues with them than any of the other, more expensive brands. Just google "XXX brand coilovers + problems" and you will find issues in all makes/brands. They are made in the same factory by the same people that make BC coilovers too and those have seen a strong following in the 370z community as well. Myself and 3 or 4 others run these coilovers on this forum and we are all mostly satisfied. Cost was not the only deciding factor for me, I ran $1900 Tein Flex coilovers on my 350z and frankly they were not worth 2x the price IMHO. As far as bang for the buck...these are decent bet....just my .02

Oh..and they have the rear dampening adjustment on the side of the strut body so you dont have to strip the trunk plastics or run extenders to adjust the rear, only ones that have that feature that I know of.

:iagree: I am one of those running Megans and I COMPLETELY agree with what was said. Granted, I've never run coilovers before, but I must say that I've had zero issues with my setup. I'm not planning on tracking, and if I was I would have probably gone with a more expensive set of coilovers that are meant for heavy track use. But for daily driving Megans are a great buy. IMO, spending 2K on a setup that's never going to see the track is a waste of money. :twocents:

kevin.z 03-02-2010 09:38 PM

my friend's porsche boxster has softer suspension setup than his 350z. the boxster is faster around the corners on the streets cus the softer suspension absorbs bumps better, therefore better traction. So could it possibly be that street coilvers provide more "street performance" than track or autoX coilvers? i dont track my car but i want the most performance. STREET PERFORMANCE!

blazeahundo2 03-02-2010 11:40 PM

i have tanabes on my g37 and they are very comfortable and cheaper than most of the coilovers out there, i dont know if they are made for the 370z but i would assume they are interchangeable

bluestyle55 03-03-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 426134)
I currently have the Megan coilovers but have decided to try the KW product next! I will post once I have some comparison info!!

Is there a particular reason why you want to switch. I mean did something happen that made you feel the need to switch?

corner3garage 03-03-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blazeahundo2 (Post 426508)
i have tanabes on my g37 and they are very comfortable and cheaper than most of the coilovers out there, i dont know if they are made for the 370z but i would assume they are interchangeable

I also like the tanabe's alot, I have had them on my personal car and the damping is amazing! The shocks are also made by kyb so there is nothing to worry about.
-Mike

Chris@FsP 03-03-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 425649)
Personally, I love my Mono's. :)

Me too :D

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 03:11 PM

I'm really tempted to try GT Motoring's new offering.

According to their blog, they test their products both on the street and track so I think they are worth considering.

B1nks 03-03-2010 04:02 PM

which coilovers are those ?

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 427542)
which coilovers are those ?

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...-shipping.html

kevin.z 03-03-2010 08:24 PM

kw v3 seems more hardcore than just street use cus i just noticed robispec's z uses kw v3's. wow, tein monoflex or v3?

Chris@FsP 03-03-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.z (Post 427989)
wow, tein monoflex or v3?

I chose the Tein Mono Flex for our shop car due to their mono tube design and the linear spring rates, as opposed to the KW V3 twin tube/progressive spring design. People will argue all day long about progressive/linear springs, but you can't really argue the mono tube's superiority over twin tube shocks on the track.

Now, if we're talking strictly street use, just flip a coin and I'm sure you would be satisfied with either coilover :)

kevr6 03-03-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bluestyle55 (Post 426869)
Is there a particular reason why you want to switch. I mean did something happen that made you feel the need to switch?

I've had multple cars with multiple brands of coilovers in the past and the
Dampening on the Megan coilovers are limited. Too much bounce for me over certian road conditions.
Still a good product for the price. I'm just very picky!

LateralG'z 03-03-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FailsafePerf (Post 428062)
I chose the Tein Mono Flex for our shop car due to their mono tube design and the linear spring rates, as opposed to the KW V3 twin tube/progressive spring design. People will argue all day long about progressive/linear springs, but you can't really argue the mono tube's superiority over twin tube shocks on the track.

Now, if we're talking strictly street use, just flip a coin and I'm sure you would be satisfied with either coilover :)

I plan to purchase the same suspension for my Z, I must come see your suspension on the car and have a ride. I keep hearing how great they are for the track and are good for the street. I will most definitely have you install them. :iagree:

Chris@FsP 03-03-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 428089)
I plan to purchase the same suspension for my Z, I must come see your suspension on the car and have a ride. I keep hearing how great they are for the track and are good for the street. I will most definitely have you install them. :iagree:

Sounds good :tup:

LateralG'z 03-03-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FailsafePerf (Post 428109)
Sounds good :tup:

Is the shop car a 370Z or a 350Z? and was there any clearance issues?

Chris@FsP 03-03-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 428124)
Is the shop car a 370Z or a 350Z? and was there any clearance issues?

Our car is a 2008 350Z HR. There were no clearance issues at all; the install was as smooth as could be.

LateralG'z 03-03-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FailsafePerf (Post 428127)
Our car is a 2008 350Z HR. There were no clearance issues at all; the install was as smooth as could be.

Have you installed a engine oil cooler & transmission cooler on a 370Z yet? HOw much to have install mine?
It is stinking cold outside here right now and I am breaking the car in right now on 400 miles on it so I am babying it only half the rpm and the engine oil temp is sitting around 180 to 200 degrees, definitely has me worried for the track and the hot summers.

LateralG'z 03-03-2010 10:46 PM

sorry for the horrible typing, in a rush

Chris@FsP 03-04-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 428161)
Have you installed a engine oil cooler & transmission cooler on a 370Z yet? HOw much to have install mine?
It is stinking cold outside here right now and I am breaking the car in right now on 400 miles on it so I am babying it only half the rpm and the engine oil temp is sitting around 180 to 200 degrees, definitely has me worried for the track and the hot summers.

We haven't had the opportunity to get our hands on a 370 yet, but we'd really like to get into that market. That's the reason we're sponsors on this site :D

I'll PM you a quote for installation of the oil cooler.

Sharif@Forged 03-04-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.z (Post 427989)
kw v3 seems more hardcore than just street use cus i just noticed robispec's z uses kw v3's. wow, tein monoflex or v3?

They are revalved and with stiffer springs. And Robbie likes his cars setup pretty soft. Different strokes for different folks.

B1nks 03-04-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 428837)
They are revalved and with stiffer springs. And Robbie likes his cars setup pretty soft. Different strokes for different folks.

True :iagree:

batman_4 03-05-2010 11:23 AM

Any opinions/experiences or insight between:

> Ksport Kontrol coil ( http://www.ksportusa.com/asp/coilove...roduct_id=cd01 )
> D2 Racing RS coil ( http://www.d2racing.com/content/products/RS_coilovers )
> BC Racing BR coil ( http://www.bcracing-na.com/bcproduct.html )

Was going Stance but i've waited for them since Dec. 16th and still don't have a definite ETA. These are not the best and i understand but i am in college so i will NOT be spending close to 2k for coils (aka Tein, KW, etc). With that said i kind of like the Ksport but don't know much about them...yet


Edit: seems Stance shipment now "has" actually landed and i would be getting the Stance coils pretty soon. Now do i believe this or not :confused:

phelan 03-05-2010 11:27 AM

i've heard bad things about BC racing, but i've never used so that's about all i can say.

batman_4 03-05-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 430206)
i've heard bad things about BC racing, but i've never used so that's about all i can say.

same here, never really heard about BC :tiphat:. Reason i'm leaning towards Ksport is because i've heard of them before through some Honda friends.

Sharif@Forged 03-05-2010 12:52 PM

Ksport, D2, BC, Megan all the same genre of coilover. Not my favs at all.


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