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redondoaveb 02-14-2019 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3825151)
Install the brace to the diff. Leave the bolts loose so that you can wiggle the brace a little to help getting the bolt started into the nut piece

1st pic, I put the nut piece on my wrench and put it inside the sub-frame, and put it into the hole.

2nd pic. The bolt is tighten down.

3rd pic. Tighten the bolts on the diff.

4th pic. Installing the sub-frame back into the Z. :tup:
Looks great! :driving:

Rusty 02-15-2019 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3825159)
Looks great! :driving:
:tiphat:

NorthStyle 02-15-2019 09:56 AM
So Rusty, how long before you start making them for the rest of us with the FI exhaust? :rofl2:

Rusty 02-15-2019 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthStyle (Post 3825275)
So Rusty, how long before you start making them for the rest of us with the FI exhaust? :rofl2:
Depends on the demand.

jchammond 02-16-2019 04:13 AM
A tight fit; reminds me of a little work I did fitting a +38 offset 19x12 w/345/30’s on rear...with minimal negative camber. Traction arm’s had to be shaved a bit & different headed bolts :ugh2:

Rusty 02-19-2019 05:34 PM
Z1 still hasn't posted my review of the brace. :rofl2:

jwick 02-19-2019 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3826597)
Z1 still hasn't posted my review of the brace. :rofl2:

They won’t

solidus 02-19-2019 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3826597)
Z1 still hasn't posted my review of the brace. :rofl2:
That's why I did'nt post a review of their metal 3 bolt gaskets. They should be appropriately named "fackyaself" gaskets. You go through all that heartache for a leak then as soon as you do a shakedown you have to do it again to replace the leaking fix for the leaks.

cv129 02-19-2019 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3826647)
That's why I did'nt post a review of their metal 3 bolt gaskets. They should be appropriately named "fackyaself" gaskets. You go through all that heartache for a leak then as soon as you do a shakedown you have to do it again to replace the leaking fix for the leaks.
Whoa, that's good to know.

Hotrodz 02-19-2019 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3826647)
That's why I did'nt post a review of their metal 3 bolt gaskets. They should be appropriately named "fackyaself" gaskets. You go through all that heartache for a leak then as soon as you do a shakedown you have to do it again to replace the leaking fix for the leaks.
LOL, I think I have set of those worthless things too!:wtf2:

solidus 02-19-2019 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3826729)
LOL, I think I have set of those worthless things too!:wtf2:
Switched out to the FI 3 bolt gasket and no more gasket leak. Just sucked to have to go through that twice in 7 days. Made worse by the fact it was done on jack stands and the whole front half of the exhaust and the turbo and manifold had to be dropped.......twice.

jwick 02-19-2019 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3826731)
Switched out to the FI 3 bolt gasket and no more gasket leak. Just sucked to have to go through that twice in 7 days. Made worse by the fact it was done on jack stands and the whole front half of the exhaust and the turbo and manifold had to be dropped.......twice.

Yeah that sucks

solidus 02-19-2019 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3826762)
Yeah that sucks
Jwick you're a BP guy like me, I know you know. Lol!!!

jwick 02-19-2019 10:20 PM
Bell Raceworks Diff Brace Install
 
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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3826773)
Jwick you're a BP guy like me, I know you know. Lol!!!

Dude. Chuck and I fought that turbo for over an hour when we first installed the kit. After we finally got it clocked and inplace, it took me 30-45 minutes to tighten the t-bolt clamp on the coupler. It was so tight I couldn’t get a socket on it. It was one ratchet click at a time with my flex head ratcheting box wrench.

I was so thankful to upgrade to the V2 piping.

solidus 02-19-2019 11:16 PM
For me it's two things. The top forward bolt for the turbo flange and getting the v bands for the recirc pipes to line up to put the clamps on. I'm an expert at removing catalytic, test pipes and turbo manifolds. I can do it with the hood closed now.

Rusty 05-25-2019 03:25 PM
Talked to Spencer about this brace at ZDayZ this month. He told me to send him an e-mail detailing the issues with the brace. So, I included this thread. Hoping this helps to improve it. The brace is a great idea, but just had poor follow through.

cv129 05-25-2019 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3855407)
Talked to Spencer about this brace at ZDayZ this month. He told me to send him an e-mail detailing the issues with the brace. So, I included this thread. Hoping this helps to improve it. The brace is a great idea, but just had poor follow through.
Bull chit......acting like this was never brought to Z1’s attention. You got him in person, face to face, he got nowhere to run but to appear as if it’s breaking news...

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3820641)
This is the review that I'm posting again. :icon14:

If you have exhaust like FI that are close to the diff. This brace won't fit unless you trim about 1 3/8" on the corner of the brace. The other problem is that the upper mounting hole does not line up with the hole in the sub-frame. It's off by a bolt hole diameter. They say to loosen the diff bolting up to the diff so that you can move the diff around and get the holes to line up. Problem is if you have a solid bushing like SPL. When tightening the diff bolting back down. This will put stress on the bolting that you don't need. If you have the stock rubber bushing. you might get away with it.

The other thing that I noticed. There is weld beads on both sides of the bends of the brace. It looks like when bending the metal to shape. The metal cracked at the bends. So they welded over the cracks to hide them.

Rusty
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3820642)
Just seen this on the Z1 website.

"Thank you for your review. It has been submitted to the store owner for approval and should appear shortly."

Rusty 05-25-2019 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3855487)
Bull chit......acting like this was never brought to Z1’s attention. You got him in person, face to face, he got nowhere to run but to appear as if it’s breaking news...
Someone at Z1 read my review and buried it. I hoping some good will come out of my e-mail. He now knows about this thread. So, let's see what comes out of it. I'll up-date this thread when I get a reply.

bunk 05-26-2019 06:36 AM
Rusty, do you notice any difference with the diff brace?

Rusty 05-26-2019 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3855532)
Rusty, do you notice any difference with the diff brace?
Well......the whole azz of the Z is locked down. So for me to notice will be hard.

bunk 05-27-2019 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3855619)
Well......the whole azz of the Z is locked down. So for me to notice will be hard.
Ill have to look into this... if anything to give me more piece of mind about my stud on that bushing...lol

BettyZ 05-27-2019 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3820641)
There is weld beads on both sides of the bends of the brace. It looks like when bending the metal to shape. The metal cracked at the bends. So they welded over the cracks to hide them.
The picture on Z1's site shows the same welding. Looks like it's that way for all the braces. So either a) they wanted to be extra sure the brace was strong, or b) this is a substandard product.

Rusty 05-27-2019 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3855783)
The picture on Z1's site shows the same welding. Looks like it's that way for all the braces. So either a) they wanted to be extra sure the brace was strong, or b) this is a substandard product.
I've seen this before in fabing parts. They're putting a flat piece into an iron worker and pressing it into shape. Either they need to put some lube on the piece to let it move or the dies need adjusted.

BettyZ 05-27-2019 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3855795)
Either they need to put some lube on the piece to let it move or the dies need adjusted.
"When in doubt, add more lube" is a pretty coherent life philosophy. :tiphat:

Rusty 05-27-2019 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3855799)
"When in doubt, add more lube" is a pretty coherent life philosophy. :tiphat:
Tell her to bit the pillow. Because you're going in dry. :eek:

fechavez 06-24-2019 12:31 AM
Can’t speak to the performance of the brace as I just put it on today but I don’t understand why there’s any hate for it. The install was super simple and I had literally 0 issues and didn’t have to cut or trim any fins. I have the Z1 diff cover btw.

JARblue 06-24-2019 06:36 AM
What exhaust are you running?

fechavez 06-24-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3863005)
What exhaust are you running?
Previous owner had a shop do a muffler delete

JLarson 06-24-2019 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fechavez (Post 3863048)
Previous owner had a shop do a muffler delete
That's why you're not having a problem. Several aftermarket mufflers, including Fast Intentions, require modification of the z1 cover to fit back on the car.

NorthStyle 06-24-2019 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fechavez (Post 3862971)
...I don’t understand why there’s any hate for it.
The "hate" for the part is that it doesn't fit arguably the most popular exhaust made for the Z34 as well as a host of others without extreme modification as JLarson said above and Rusty covered with pictures a few pages back (it looks like it was made to be used with a single or OEM-style exhaust). However, even after being notified, neither Bell nor Z1 has made note of it on the product page... I think that'd be really useful information for a consumer to have as I had planned to purchase it and I have a Fast Intentions exhaust as well :ugh2:

The other part of the reason is from when Rusty posted his review (not so positive, but a customer review nonetheless). Instead of being upfront and honest, Z1 instead chose to disregard it as if it was never written. That's shady...

SS_Firehawk 06-24-2019 04:02 PM
Hey Rusty, I need to get with you to figure out a solution since you're about as close to a solid one with an F.I. exhaust. At ZDayZ, I snapped the diff bolt and put a hole in my diff cover. Hard launch, strong clutch, and sticky tires doomed the diff bolt. Z1 did come though and replaced my diff cover free, but I couldn't add the diff brace for obvious reasons while they helped me get my car down to their shop. Any kind of hard driving with hardened bushings and a lot of traction will snap it without effort. It was instantaneous, like a guillotine and some poor dudes neck.

Rusty 06-24-2019 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3863066)
Hey Rusty, I need to get with you to figure out a solution since you're about as close to a solid one with an F.I. exhaust. At ZDayZ, I snapped the diff bolt and put a hole in my diff cover. Hard launch, strong clutch, and sticky tires doomed the diff bolt. Z1 did come though and replaced my diff cover free, but I couldn't add the diff brace for obvious reasons while they helped me get my car down to their shop. Any kind of hard driving with hardened bushings and a lot of traction will snap it without effort. It was instantaneous, like a guillotine and some poor dudes neck.
Shoot me a pm with your phone number. ;)

BettyZ 06-24-2019 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3863066)
Hey Rusty, I need to get with you to figure out a solution since you're about as close to a solid one with an F.I. exhaust. At ZDayZ, I snapped the diff bolt and put a hole in my diff cover. Hard launch, strong clutch, and sticky tires doomed the diff bolt. Z1 did come though and replaced my diff cover free, but I couldn't add the diff brace for obvious reasons while they helped me get my car down to their shop. Any kind of hard driving with hardened bushings and a lot of traction will snap it without effort. It was instantaneous, like a guillotine and some poor dudes neck.
Sounds like you're doing something right.

Spooler 06-24-2019 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3863100)
Shoot me a pm with your phone number. ;)
Make me one too please. Mine is at MA.

Rusty 06-25-2019 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3863182)
Make me one too please. Mine is at MA.
I can mod it. Ship it to me.

Spooler 06-25-2019 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3863190)
I can mod it. Ship it to me.
I have to get it back from MA.

JARblue 06-25-2019 07:48 AM
Me 3 lol

NorthStyle 06-25-2019 09:03 AM
Me 4 :driving:

Rusty 06-25-2019 02:47 PM
You buy it. Ship it to me. I'll QC it, and mod it as needed.

BettyZ 06-25-2019 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3863308)
You buy it. Ship it to me. I'll QC it, and mod it as needed.
Me 5. I'm thinking you need to set up an LLC. Maybe call it RAAM: Rusty's After-Aftermarket.

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