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240se 04-14-2018 10:36 AM

Disconnecting Rear Sway Bar
 
I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?

SouthArk370Z 04-14-2018 10:39 AM

If no one comes up with a good answer, check the FSM (link in my sig).

1st 04-14-2018 11:12 AM

Why do you want to disconnect it for?

240se 04-14-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st (Post 3747344)
Why do you want to disconnect it for?

Suspension tuning, less oversteer and I want to get a feel for how it handles without the rear bar. I have done autoxes in the rain and it was too loose and it would be nice to have a quick way to change the balance.

echoshotz 04-14-2018 12:42 PM

A lot of guys on the track remove the rear bar, helps tremendously for putting down power on corner exit. I have thought about doing it as well but just haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I plan to leave as little evidence of it as I can, rather than just unbolting a side from the end links

Rusty 04-14-2018 02:13 PM

A lot of the trackrats don't run a rear bar at all.

gomer_110 04-14-2018 04:53 PM

I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.

240se 04-14-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3747395)
I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.

I really want to try it but there is less than .5" clearance and I'm on stock sport springs. I may wrap some electrical tape on the camber arm and see if it gets rubbed.

gomer_110 04-14-2018 06:13 PM

Didn't remember it being that close on mine but then again it's been awhile since I've had a rear bar installed.

axmea? 04-14-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se (Post 3747338)
I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?

You also need to take the muffler off.

240se 04-15-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3747419)
You also need to take the muffler off.

To remove the bar I think I need to disconnect the muffler and the X brace which is why I want an easier way to temporarily disable it like removing one of the end links.


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Hotrodz 04-16-2018 08:21 AM

I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.

240se 04-16-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3747667)
I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.

So two people have removed one end link and no problems. That's good enough for me to give it a try.

Thanks

240se 05-29-2018 01:55 PM

So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.

Hotrodz 05-29-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se (Post 3760295)
So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.

If you go with stiffer springs you definitely want to keep it off. I drove the whole week at ZDAYZ with the TC off. I thought I set it to be on at the lower end, but when I checked it was totally off so I left it. That was after driving in the wet on Toyo r888. Call me crazy! Lol

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240se 05-30-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3760350)
If you go with stiffer springs you definitely want to keep it off. I drove the whole week at ZDAYZ with the TC off. I thought I set it to be on at the lower end, but when I checked it was totally off so I left it. That was after driving in the wet on Toyo r888. Call me crazy! Lol

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You literally have twice as much torque as I do so that is a little crazy. Thanks for the info.

Hotrodz 05-30-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se (Post 3760586)
You literally have twice as much torque as I do so that is a little crazy. Thanks for the info.

I'm just old school, for the most part tc scares the hell of me because it confuses me on what I should do!

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Spooler 05-30-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se (Post 3760586)
You literally have twice as much torque as I do so that is a little crazy. Thanks for the info.

LOL, no it is not. It get's in the way of learning how to drive the car. Us older guys never had any nannies growing up. Why the heck do we need them now. I also flip off traction control when doing spirited driving on the Dragon. Stupid throttle cut, etc.

Hotrodz 05-30-2018 04:20 PM

The TC on the Z and even new Qs is just crap!

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Rusty 05-30-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3760610)
LOL, no it is not. It get's in the way of learning how to drive the car. Us older guys never had any nannies growing up. Why the heck do we need them now. I also flip off traction control when doing spirited driving on the Dragon. Stupid throttle cut, etc.

I even drove with the YAW sensor disconnected.:driving:

Spooler 05-30-2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3760732)
I even drove with the YAW sensor disconnected.:driving:

Never had any issues with that since installing the OS Giken Diff.


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