Kinetix vs SPC front camber arms

gomer_110 · 02-23-2015, 08:04 PM

Before anyone can say it, yes the SPL arms are better. I can't use the SPL arms as SCCA rules for the class I autox in prohibit spherical bearings which only leaves the SPC or Kinetix front camber arms. Any thoughts on one over the other?

Zauskycop · 02-23-2015, 08:34 PM

Really interested in knowing what class you are speaking of??

Tracy Ramsey

gomer_110 · 02-23-2015, 09:03 PM

Asp

PharmDZ · 02-23-2015, 09:52 PM

Well, good to know since I'm in ASP and was eventually thinking of upgrading to SPL... I have SPC, and have heard better things about them. They seem to be keeping alignment and not slipping at all through plenty of autox days and a few HPDE a year. I'll let you know how they held up this past year through heavier abuse once I go get a re-alignment/corner balance done the 2nd week of March.

DEpointfive0 · 02-23-2015, 10:09 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but...
Who cares? And who's checking?

PharmDZ · 02-24-2015, 07:52 AM

Really anal-retentive rule-abiding national level autocross guys, and maybe noone? Haha point taken DE

gomer_110 · 02-24-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ

Really anal-retentive rule-abiding national level autocross guys, and maybe noone? Haha point taken DE

This. As I run some national events and also plan on heading to Lincoln for Nationals this year, following the rules is something I have to worry about.

DEpointfive0 · 02-24-2015, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

This. As I run some national events and also plan on heading to Lincoln for Nationals this year, following the rules is something I have to worry about.

But like if you're in the next level up that will allow for the SPL arms, why do you care that you're in the higher level? Because your car will be slower than the cars in that level? Isn't it all about times anyways?

gomer_110 · 02-24-2015, 08:37 AM

Going up to the next prep level makes the car completely noncompetitive based on the other cars in the class (a lot of turbo charged, monster power cars including GT-R's iirc). Additionally, the money to prep the car for the next level gets pretty crazy. Just to have a rule book built car for the class I run is somewhere around $30k.

DEpointfive0 · 02-24-2015, 08:41 AM

PM'd gomer, I don't want to take away from your thread.

But let me put my 2 cents in for taking you off topic. Both arms work fine. SPC's won't slip if you torque the shít out of them (Martin82 used to track them to hell and back) and Kinetix aren't bad either. But less prone to needing adjustments

bullitt5897 · 02-24-2015, 08:58 AM

I have run the SPC and as DE has stated they will hold if you tighten them down! lol I had to use PB blaster and a breaker bar to unlock mine hahaha... just an FYI the top nut is a 27mm nut so get a socket for it if you plan on making your own adjustments.

speedfreek · 02-24-2015, 09:04 AM

SPC > Kinetix. At least in my book. I have tracked with SPC and just upgraded to SPL. Kinetix will break as a 350 experienced at AMP. DE.5 is correct in the SPC will be less prone to slipping when you torque them way pass what is called out. Or you could create a bracket to lock everything in place like Baer383 did back in the day.

"SPC camber arm fix"

Zauskycop · 02-24-2015, 05:13 PM

Hmmm...I never knew about the bushings in ASP. Guess I will be illegal locally haha. Not even sure about the Road Race Pump...

Good Luck!

Tracy Ramsey

DEpointfive0 · 02-24-2015, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zauskycop

Hmmm...I never knew about the bushings in ASP. Guess I will be illegal locally haha. Not even sure about the Road Race Pump...

Good Luck!

Tracy Ramsey

You illegal bastard!!!

I'm reporting you!!!

GSS138 · 02-24-2015, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110

Going up to the next prep level makes the car completely noncompetitive based on the other cars in the class (a lot of turbo charged, monster power cars including GT-R's iirc). Additionally, the money to prep the car for the next level gets pretty crazy. Just to have a rule book built car for the class I run is somewhere around $30k.

Your rules suck. Feel sorry for you. Is there no other group you can run with? Seriously? they have a problem with spherical bearings? This is why I hate these "good ole" boy racing organizations. Who ******* cares about spherical camber arm bearnings?

That being said, there is nothing good I can say about SPC camber arms, several of my 350 friends have had good success with kinetix. They both have a sh1tty design from an engineering standpoint.

02-23-2015, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36940	Kinetix vs SPC front camber arms Before anyone can say it, yes the SPL arms are better. I can't use the SPL arms as SCCA rules for the class I autox in prohibit spherical bearings which only leaves the SPC or Kinetix front camber arms. Any thoughts on one over the other? __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

02-23-2015, 09:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36940	Asp __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

02-23-2015, 10:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Forgive my ignorance, but... Who cares? And who's checking? ufoz8mycow likes this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

02-24-2015, 08:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36940	Going up to the next prep level makes the car completely noncompetitive based on the other cars in the class (a lot of turbo charged, monster power cars including GT-R's iirc). Additionally, the money to prep the car for the next level gets pretty crazy. Just to have a rule book built car for the class I run is somewhere around $30k. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

02-24-2015, 08:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	PM'd gomer, I don't want to take away from your thread. But let me put my 2 cents in for taking you off topic. Both arms work fine. SPC's won't slip if you torque the shít out of them (Martin82 used to track them to hell and back) and Kinetix aren't bad either. But less prone to needing adjustments __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

02-23-2015, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zauskycop Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Hinckley IL Posts: 228 Drives: 2012 370Z, '16 Miata Rep Power: 13	Really interested in knowing what class you are speaking of?? Tracy Ramsey

02-23-2015, 09:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
PharmDZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 997 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 13	Well, good to know since I'm in ASP and was eventually thinking of upgrading to SPL... I have SPC, and have heard better things about them. They seem to be keeping alignment and not slipping at all through plenty of autox days and a few HPDE a year. I'll let you know how they held up this past year through heavier abuse once I go get a re-alignment/corner balance done the 2nd week of March.

02-24-2015, 07:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
PharmDZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 997 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 13	Really anal-retentive rule-abiding national level autocross guys, and maybe noone? Haha point taken DE

02-24-2015, 08:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	I have run the SPC and as DE has stated they will hold if you tighten them down! lol I had to use PB blaster and a breaker bar to unlock mine hahaha... just an FYI the top nut is a 27mm nut so get a socket for it if you plan on making your own adjustments. __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

02-24-2015, 09:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 18	SPC > Kinetix. At least in my book. I have tracked with SPC and just upgraded to SPL. Kinetix will break as a 350 experienced at AMP. DE.5 is correct in the SPC will be less prone to slipping when you torque them way pass what is called out. Or you could create a bracket to lock everything in place like Baer383 did back in the day. "SPC camber arm fix" DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ Tomei\|Berk\|Takeda\|ZSpeed\|Fortune Auto\|Swift\|Eibach\|SPL\|Carbotech\|Motul\|Powertrix\|Stillen\|Aerojacket\|Z1\|Forgestar\|Enkei\|Project Kics\|Nismo Ti\|Llumar speedfreek's journal

02-24-2015, 05:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zauskycop Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Hinckley IL Posts: 228 Drives: 2012 370Z, '16 Miata Rep Power: 13	Hmmm...I never knew about the bushings in ASP. Guess I will be illegal locally haha. Not even sure about the Road Race Pump... Good Luck! Tracy Ramsey

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