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Can anyone come up with a design/engineering reason for these findings? How do Akebonos differ from the 'better' aftermarket options? What would cause ABS malfunction rather than the usual fade

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Old 10-29-2009, 08:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can anyone come up with a design/engineering reason for these findings? How do Akebonos differ from the 'better' aftermarket options? What would cause ABS malfunction rather than the usual fade with repeated stops?

I was pretty impressed with my Akebonos during my track day last week, and I was routinely getting into the ABS by the end of the day.
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Can anyone come up with a design/engineering reason for these findings? How do Akebonos differ from the 'better' aftermarket options? What would cause ABS malfunction rather than the usual fade with repeated stops?

I was pretty impressed with my Akebonos during my track day last week, and I was routinely getting into the ABS by the end of the day.
When you were "getting into the ABS" this was more than likely the malfunction we are talking about. You feel the ABS kick in, lose about 50% braking force for a second and then it decides to grip again. The hotter it gets the longer it cuts out for. The sad part is that it doesn't take particularly high rotor temperatures to get into this state. I don't think the calipers are solely to blame for the problem however people that have replaced their calipers have seen the problem go away.
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Can anyone come up with a design/engineering reason for these findings? How do Akebonos differ from the 'better' aftermarket options?
That is what puzzles me too. My powdercoating business centers around brake calipers and I have broken down and rebuilt just about every mainstream caliper out there, brembo, akebono, stoptech, AP, rotora, etc, and I can't visually see anything much different, other than having the fluid go from side to side internally rather than with a crossover tube, but I can't imagine that makes a huge difference, based on hydraulic principles. Then again, I'm no engineer either.

I do know that the massive brembo monoblocs work awesome on the track though!!!!!
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other than having the fluid go from side to side internally rather than with a crossover tube, but I can't imagine that makes a huge difference, based on hydraulic principles.
Maybe the external crossover tube can help to dissipate a little more heat. But not enough to really matter
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