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I worked for a dealer in the very early 2000's, we liked the X1001 for some heavy lifting installs. Great products. Severely underrated on paper.... Then JL Audio slash series

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Old 09-18-2014, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I worked for a dealer in the very early 2000's, we liked the X1001 for some heavy lifting installs. Great products. Severely underrated on paper....

Then JL Audio slash series hit the streets, changing up the need to match the impedance's, which was great for novice's.

Xtant kind of just went away, lost dealer rights, etc.

BTW, anyone know of a company that has a comparable product to Alumapro's C.A.P. ??

I used to use the CAP5 or CAP15 in most of my installs, completely fixed electrical issues without the need of a second battery or H.O.A. - very cool tech.

Disheartened to find out they either went out of business or just stopped the line of those CAPS.
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They still sell them. However, although the arguments will wage on forever, they have been proven time and time again to be pure snake oil. Between the cost of the caps, and the sheer amount of farads you need to actually make any difference whatsoever, you would be better off to add a battery.
Anyone who says a cap helped with headlights dimming (which seemed to be the main marketing strategy) is disillusioned. Its just snake oil, pure and simple.
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They still sell them. However, although the arguments will wage on forever, they have been proven time and time again to be pure snake oil. Between the cost of the caps, and the sheer amount of farads you need to actually make any difference whatsoever, you would be better off to add a battery.
Anyone who says a cap helped with headlights dimming (which seemed to be the main marketing strategy) is disillusioned. Its just snake oil, pure and simple.
I learned that the hard way after I bought one It never did anything to help with dimming (lightning cap).
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They still sell them. However, although the arguments will wage on forever, they have been proven time and time again to be pure snake oil. Between the cost of the caps, and the sheer amount of farads you need to actually make any difference whatsoever, you would be better off to add a battery.
Anyone who says a cap helped with headlights dimming (which seemed to be the main marketing strategy) is disillusioned. Its just snake oil, pure and simple.
I have to ask, have you first hand experience with Alumapro CAP5, CAP15, CAP50?

This is the product line that I specifically mention.

I had them in four personal vehicles as well as countless friends and family vehicles.

None of us were "disillusioned" as you state (which is not a word, but closely resembles Disallusioned found only in the Urban Dictionary).

I think maybe your trying to say delusional perhaps?

In any case, our volt meters were not delusional when they represented a complete voltage regulation after Alumapro's product was installed. None of us were delusional when we visibly witnessed light dimming to be corrected.

YES, having worked in car audio industry for a good run, you get to find out what products do not work, especially as advertised. The other benefit being, you get to find out what products DO work, first hand.

I would always recommend the Alumapro CAP5 to a 500w RMS setup, and the Alumapro CAP15 for up to around 1,200w RMS.

After that, yes, add some batteries, and upgrade the alternator if possible, its about keeping the voltage regulated during heavy musical notes to keep your power output at rated amounts.
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Lol... You can learn 2 things here today, my friend.

1. Disillusioned, as defined by Mirriam-Webster (they are the dictionary people) Losing Faith or trust in a product that does not turn out to be as good as it seems or is promised.

That's true, you can use google to look it up if you like. I believe this video specifically uses the capacitor you mention.... check it out.
Now, I know This won't change your mind, and you won't change mine, either, but personal attacks are not necessary. Its just an internet forum, after all. Enjoy the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTuJ7oz9g80

Just a funny little side note; I have a friend who bought a "Vornado" for his truck, and drives with his tailgate off to "save on gas" He will swear up and down that he has increased mileage since hes been doing it.
Although scientifically proven that neither of these remedies work one Iota, (yes, that's a real word, too) he will never admit that he spent $100 on something, and was taken across on it. I would think its safe to say that he will someday admit that he is "disillusioned" as well.
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Lol... You can learn 2 things here today, my friend.

1. Disillusioned, as defined by Mirriam-Webster (they are the dictionary people) Losing Faith or trust in a product that does not turn out to be as good as it seems or is promised.

That's true, you can use google to look it up if you like. I believe this video specifically uses the capacitor you mention.... check it out.
Now, I know This won't change your mind, and you won't change mine, either, but personal attacks are not necessary. Its just an internet forum, after all. Enjoy the video. Why capacitors don't work - YouTube

Just a funny little side note; I have a friend who bought a "Vornado" for his truck, and drives with his tailgate off to "save on gas" He will swear up and down that he has increased mileage since hes been doing it.
Although scientifically proven that neither of these remedies work one Iota, (yes, that's a real word, too) he will never admit that he spent $100 on something, and was taken across on it. I would think its safe to say that he will someday admit that he is "disillusioned" as well.
Honky tonk set aside, all valid points, Vornado's and all


The video is a bit flawed. Case and point, the bench test really.

He's using a 15A (Max) IntelliCharger to simulate the alternator charging current to the battery.

...Wait, back up, yes, he's feeding the battery, at most, 15A to provide this test.

Now mind you the first load test is 25A. 15A of charging, 25A load

Bench test over before it started. Also, a tight constant AMP load does not represent a musical note. Unless playing sine waves or single drawn out notes (not typically found in your average song)

You are right, you won't change my mind. Again, going from real world experience here, my own personal use of the equipment.

These caps are more than capable of creating a better regulated voltage environment for your average amplifiers. (SPL competitions need to apply here, cause we know, Burping takes Batteries).

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