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Minsu 10-25-2013 04:37 PM

Car Security does anyone use Dashcams?
 
Please Read While pooping or if you have some time.

Ok so we just received a new product. There called the ITB-100hd and the ITB-500HD. The itb-100hd is a single channel dashcam with full HD video and audio. and the ITB-500hd aka "the twins" are dual channel.

Heres the youtube link to the product actually in play.

Soltech Security ITB-100 Car BlackBox: Real Time Recording 1080p (Daytime) - YouTube Watch it in 1080P

Below is a product description I made for other wholesalers, this should give you a good idea of the product

For added Security to your vehicle, Capture collisions and hit and runs, Audio and HD Video to capture everyday driving for either security or evidence purposes, or to even make youtube videos. Please read Full Description below.

-Full 16:9 HD 1921x1080 ultra high resolution at a perfect 24 frames per second

-Built in GPS records driving speed and displays it in the PC player. It also records the driving coordinates and matches it to the PC map

-Built-in accelometer records any bumps or "shocks" the vehicle receives.

-Updateable firmware

-Automatically saves video when unplugged

-Included 8GB card is only 4 hours of HD video. Easily upgradeable to 32GB

-Audio is also recorded side by side with Video for full playback.

-Videos are saved in MP4 format so it requires no conversion for no-hassle playback.

-Has video out cable so you can watch real time live driving video recorded via NAVI or Monitor Screen

-Stylish and flows with any interior of any car.

-Auto Parking Mode helps save battery and will only record if there has been a collision or shock or motion of an object.

-Sudden collisions will be automatically saved

-Easy to understand manual.In English

I wanted to help the community by doing maybe a group buy if your interested.
Since this is a product i have alot of due to us being contracted with the manu I can probably cut a decent amount off the retail price.

If you need more info let me know on the post here so repeated questions arent asked.

Minsu 10-25-2013 04:51 PM

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Here are the ITB-500HD or "The Twins"
Now for pricing these retail around 500 for the dual channel set up.
I can probably do 450 for a group buy or even lower depending on the amount of people interested.

kenchan 10-25-2013 04:53 PM

cool.

per the thread title, i was hoping this would be something one can use for cars that are parked? like while at a restaurant take vid feed of the car's surroundings to use later for reporting if car is vandalized or something.

Minsu 10-25-2013 04:54 PM

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The ITB-100HD retails for 279.99 For the group buy I can drop it to about 245.00 even less depending on group amount.

So its an end consumer product which means its plug and play.
If you have questions, again post in this thread so people dont ask the same one over and over again.

Minsu 10-25-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2541564)
cool.

per the thread title, i was hoping this would be something one can use for cars that are parked? like while at a restaurant take vid feed of the car's surroundings to use later for reporting if car is vandalized or something.

Yea and its also for moving vehicles as well.
Ill upload more videos so you can the the night vision and License plate closeups as well. So yea if someone clips you in the lot it will turn on and record it for you.
It also has GPS functions so it lets you know where the accident happened and how fast you were going if it was moving accident.

Justice97 10-25-2013 04:55 PM

I have actually thought of getting one. I had an individual driving a huge truck with a stick in front of me and he almost rolled back and hit me. I thought wow there would no way for me to prove it was his fault. He could turn around and say nope was you and now I have whiplash.

Still in my head and I may go grab one.

Minsu 10-25-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2541568)
I have actually thought of getting one. I had an individual driving a huge truck with a stick in front of me and he almost rolled back and hit me. I thought wow there would no way for me to prove it was his fault. He could turn around and say nope was you and now I have whiplash.

Still in my head and I may go grab one.

So yea as soon as we got the products shipped to us from the manufacturer in Korea, we were driving from a business meeting and BOOM something flys off a truck and cracks our windshield...sigh should have installed one before heading to the meeting just to get some video but we were in a hurry.

Start a group list ill leave it up for about a week

If you need more info just ask on the thread.

Zbrah 10-25-2013 06:47 PM

Have you asked AK for permission yet? please do! or might want to keep this on a d/l and find some other ways about it :wtf2:

Chuck33079 10-25-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2541718)
Have you asked AK for permission yet? please do! or might want to keep this on a d/l and find some other ways about it :wtf2:

Always start by asking AKs permission. You may need to be a paying vendor. Rain was offering dash cams a while back, so its definitely possible if you talk to the right people.

BeemaaZ 10-25-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2541536)
-Auto Parking Mode helps save battery and will only record if there has been a collision or shock or motion of an object.

Can you give an example how it records a collision while the car is parked or if someone vandalized or a parked car next to us put a ding on our cars?

Minsu 10-25-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 2541718)
Have you asked AK for permission yet? please do! or might want to keep this on a d/l and find some other ways about it :wtf2:

I posted after i got OK from AK that was about three days ago

Minsu 10-25-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BeemaaZ (Post 2541734)
Can you give an example how it records a collision while the car is parked or if someone vandalized or a parked car next to us put a ding on our cars?

So lets say you park your car and you go outside you can either leave it on for the duration your gone or have it turn on and off with your engine. Now in case of vandalism lets say your dashcam is on then it will record them coming to and from your car now this is when there is no collision involved. Now if the unit is turned off it will automatically turn itself on in case of collision. So if someone hits you in the lot it will turn on and you have a plate number or w.e else you might need. If someone dings you (Now ill have to get back to you on the sensitivity of the sensor but from what i heard its quite sensitive) it will turn on and record the person getting in and out and pulling out of driveway if he decideds to leave. Now when it turns on it will display the time when you take the SD card and put it into your computer it will show you what time the collision happened so you can go to that part of the file and watch which car it was.

pokeyl 10-25-2013 07:54 PM

Is there a down side to collecting this much data?

6MT-Z34 10-25-2013 07:56 PM

Very interesting, do you have pictures of it installed? I would like to know if it can be "hidden" so ppl won't know theres a camera inside.

Also, will you offer installation with it if local?

Minsu 10-25-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pokeyl (Post 2541786)
Is there a down side to collecting this much data?

Not sure what you mean. isnt it usually the more data the better unless your in the wrong haha. When your in the right you want as much data as possible. You can use it as evidence in court or for insurance purposes.

Minsu 10-25-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 2541790)
Very interesting, do you have pictures of it installed? I would like to know if it can be "hidden" so ppl won't know theres a camera inside.

Also, will you offer installation with it if local?

It fits just like an ezpass would. and installation is super simple. like i said its an end user product meaning its plug and play. stick the sd card in mount it where you want to. start your car. walah.

H2O_Doc 10-25-2013 08:48 PM

Ever since being hit by a Congressional staffers who ran a light, I run a dash cam (it was a hit and run with a later apprehension).
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/26/azu2e9yq.jpg

You catch some zany things. You also catch some worthwhile things. I caught a bus rear ending a car two weeks ago.

Minsu 10-25-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2541842)
Ever since being hit by a Congressional staffers who ran a light, I run a dash cam (it was a hit and run with a later apprehension).
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/26/azu2e9yq.jpg

You catch some zany things. You also catch some worthwhile things. I caught a bus rear ending a car two weeks ago.

Holy cow man. im going to assume you were in the car. Atleast your ok? And yea you always seem to record the craziest things when you least expect it.

H2O_Doc 10-25-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2541848)
Holy cow man. im going to assume you were in the car. Atleast your ok? And yea you always seem to record the craziest things when you least expect it.

I faired surprising well, but that talk about odd periodic back pain for years to come is not just lawyers trying to get you to sue.

Minsu 10-25-2013 09:19 PM

hmmm do you have a single channel or dual channel system?

H2O_Doc 10-25-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2541872)
hmmm do you have a single channel or dual channel system?

Front and rear inputs with sound. No smell-o-vision.

Nismodean 10-25-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2541839)
Not sure what you mean. isnt it usually the more data the better unless your in the wrong haha. When your in the right you want as much data as possible. You can use it as evidence in court or for insurance purposes.

I know this seems a bit off topic but I'm sure in the very least the thought has surfaced to some of you. You have this device and it's recording while you're being pulled over by a cop for "X". What do you do?

If you get pulled over ensure you inform the cop of your recording device to prevent you from being accused of secretly recording them. I know they should always be professional and not have anything to hide but we all know how that story goes. If he/she tells you to turn it off:

If the cop says “Please stop recording me. It’s against the law.”
For example, if an insecure cop tries to tell you that you’re violating his civil liberties, you might respond by saying “Officer, with all due respect, state law only requires permission from one party in a conversation. I don’t need your permission to record so long as I’m not interfering with your work or if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy (pulled over on a public road or parking lot is NOT reasonable expectation of privacy.)”

If you live in one of the 12 all party record states, you might say something like “Officer, I’m familiar with the law, but the courts have ruled that it doesn’t apply to recording on-duty police.”

For further clarification: Twelve states—California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington—require the consent of all parties for you to record a conversation.

However, all but 2 of these states—Massachusetts and Illinois—have an “expectation of privacy provision” to their all-party laws that courts have ruled does not apply to on-duty police (or anyone in public). In other words, it’s technically legal in those 48 states to openly record on-duty police.

Remember kids, knowledge is power and bacon is always best fried! :tup:

H2O_Doc 10-25-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 2541941)
I know this seems a bit off topic but I'm sure in the very least the thought has surfaced to some of you. You have this device and it's recording while you're being pulled over by a cop for "X". What do you do?

If you get pulled over ensure you inform the cop of your recording device to prevent you from being accused of secretly recording them. I know they should always be professional and not have anything to hide but we all know how that story goes. If he/she tells you to turn it off:

If the cop says “Please stop recording me. It’s against the law.”
For example, if an insecure cop tries to tell you that you’re violating his civil liberties, you might respond by saying “Officer, with all due respect, state law only requires permission from one party in a conversation. I don’t need your permission to record so long as I’m not interfering with your work or if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy (pulled over on a public road or parking lot is NOT reasonable expectation of privacy.)”

If you live in one of the 12 all party record states, you might say something like “Officer, I’m familiar with the law, but the courts have ruled that it doesn’t apply to recording on-duty police.”

For further clarification: Twelve states—California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington—require the consent of all parties for you to record a conversation.

However, all but 2 of these states—Massachusetts and Illinois—have an “expectation of privacy provision” to their all-party laws that courts have ruled does not apply to on-duty police (or anyone in public). In other words, it’s technically legal in those 48 states to openly record on-duty police.

Remember kids, knowledge is power and bacon is always best fried! :tup:

It depends on State law and whether or not your State is a single party consent state. In single party consent state, law enforcement has much greater limitations on stoping you from filming or recording (of course, in no event can you interfere with their lawfully discharging their duties). If ever asked to stop recording, always as if you are legally compelled by state law.

Nismodean 10-25-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2541977)
It depends on State law and whether or not your State is a single party consent state. In single party consent state, law enforcement has much greater limitations on stoping you from filming or recording (of course, in no event can you interfere with their lawfully discharging their duties). If ever asked to stop recording, always as if you are legally compelled by state law.

I stated the laws in what I wrote. I don't get your point. Basically if you don't live in Massachusetts or Illinois you can record the event of you being pulled over and subsequent conversation, issuance of ticket, warning, etc. If you don't live in the aforementioned states and they ask you to stop recording you can assert your RIGHT and respectfully decline and state the appropriate statute.

Back on topic, this item looks to be promising, I really like the auto on in case of sudden collision or jarring from theft. Nice job!

H2O_Doc 10-25-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 2541989)
I stated the laws in what I wrote. I don't get your point. Basically if you don't live in Massachusetts or Illinois you can record the event of you being pulled over and subsequent conversation, issuance of ticket, warning, etc. If you don't live in the aforementioned states and they ask you to stop recording you can assert your RIGHT and respectfully decline and state the appropriate statute.

Back on topic, this item looks to be promising, I really like the auto on in case of sudden collision or jarring from theft. Nice job!

Yes, well, I don't read that closely. Just pound out a reply and feel good about myself.

That feels better.

See what I mean?

Minsu 10-25-2013 11:25 PM

so if there are any interested people let know start a list for me if possible. if you need more info let me know.

Trips 10-31-2013 05:06 PM

Welcome as a NEW vendor Minsu

Minsu 10-31-2013 05:20 PM

Dat Blue Name :yum::yum::yum::yum::yum::yum::yum:

Now Back on topic, Im gonna have a forum member swing by and check it out and he and I will hopefully get into a indepth review on the product but those who are willing although the group buy wont start just yet until all the reviews and problems concerns are met im more than willing to answer any questions

Guavazo 10-31-2013 05:34 PM

I uses a dash cam because there is so many driver out there that is bad at driving! I want to make sure if someone cut me off and hit me I have a recording that I can use to prove the accident. I'm current using 1080P cam with motion and shock sensor I got from Asia for $60 bucks that serve me well.

But does not have GPS like the one OP listed, The only feature I wish these thing have is a 360 degree cam if someone vandalize the card on the side that does not trip the shock and motion sensor (spray paint, key the door...).

Here is a review I found online Itronics ITB-100HD | Dash Cam Talk looks petty high end!

Drex 10-31-2013 05:35 PM

interesting, how badly will it kill your battery if you left it running while the car is parked and off? or how long could you run it before the battery is dead?

Minsu 10-31-2013 05:36 PM

lol i was just gonna post this. Thank you. Yea that post pretty much breaks it down for you. THE pc player is pretty awesome it shows a gps on the bottom right while you have the recording playing.

Minsu 10-31-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Drex (Post 2549743)
interesting, how badly will it kill your battery if you left it running while the car is parked and off? or how long could you run it before the battery is dead?

So basically it will turn off after your car shuts off, once there is a collision and you can control the sensitivity on the PC player it will turn itself back on meaning no battery drain.

H2O_Doc 10-31-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2549746)
So basically it will turn off after your car shuts off, once there is a collision and you can control the sensitivity on the PC player it will turn itself back on meaning no battery drain.

The one I have can be set to turn on with the car and then shut down 30 secs after the car turns off. You can also get one with a motion sensor.

Minsu 10-31-2013 10:16 PM

Yea the ITB-100hd has motion sensor and programmable settings as well. its basically every possible feature packed neatly and simply into one product

tRidiot 11-01-2013 02:55 AM

I would be pretty interested in this product.

I am wondering what the video quality is like when recording through darkly-tinted windows? I have 5% all the way around, and a strip on my windshield. I could probably position the camera where it is under the windshield strip, but being unobtrusive is very important to me. Also, recording out the back window - no way around the tint there.

Any thoughts?

DEpointfive0 11-01-2013 04:26 AM

I love that Minsu is now a forum sponsor.
I didn't look through the thread, nor do I know exactly what's being sold.
PM me your best price shipped to 90275. Let's work backwards

RonRizz 11-01-2013 04:37 AM

I would have figured it would be bondo, or body panels.

RonRizz 11-01-2013 04:45 AM

Anyway, is this really necessary in a real world? I mean, what did we all do before all this technology? Do i really need a dash cam image of the hillbillys *** walking away from my car in the walmart parking lot after he/she door dings me? or the stray shopping cart that rolls into the side of my car? GOTCHA you metal wheeled bastard of the parking lot. Use a little smarts when parking your car, and save the $500.
I have a nissan 370z, not a $250,000.00 Ferrari.
I LIKE my car, but its just (gasp) a car for christs sake.

H2O_Doc 11-01-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2550356)
Anyway, is this really necessary in a real world? I mean, what did we all do before all this technology? Do i really need a dash cam image of the hillbillys *** walking away from my car in the walmart parking lot after he/she door dings me? or the stray shopping cart that rolls into the side of my car? GOTCHA you metal wheeled bastard of the parking lot. Use a little smarts when parking your car, and save the $500.
I have a nissan 370z, not a $250,000.00 Ferrari.
I LIKE my car, but its just (gasp) a car for christs sake.

- door dings etc.
- hit and run evidence (happened to me)
- ticket you didn't deserve
- added peace of mind

Paid $35 for that.

RonRizz 11-01-2013 08:56 AM

I understand all that, but truthfully...The odds of these occurences (besides the door ding, which I would guess would be pretty hard to capture without 360 degree birds eye video) are extremely large, and the majority would never have the need for it.
As far as the door dings go, Imagine walking into your local PD with a dash video of a guy/gal walking away from your car, and explaining to them that your camera turns on when your car is bumped so it must be the guy that dinged your car. Even IF you get the lic. plate as he/she drives off. Good luck proving it without footage of the door meeting your car.
My $.02 and that may be all its worth, but it is Mine. I'll put that coin in my gas tank and have some fun instead.


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