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NissanFan 01-14-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 2650934)
Neither of those two threads apply. Did you miss the part where I said I am not using the bose speakers, and I am not using the bose amp?

but this thread's title is "what to know about Bose."

simple answer = bose blowz. :icon17:

NissanFan 01-14-2014 01:32 PM

370z forum: nissanfan- gtfo newb! :mad:

zakimak 01-14-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2651072)
Im sorry i have to disagree. this a a forum for the Z Car and all that goes along with it. Referring to a separate forum dedicated to car audio for a specific issue such as the Z Car Bose system is like telling someone to go buy any kind of oil for your engine since all engines use oil...dumb. This forum is all things Zcar and car audio is a big portion of it and your comment takes away credit from BAF and others (myself, Dave etc) that have contributed quite a bit in upgrading their audio systems.

Also im not taking credit from BAF im just stating that he need to read what others are contributing and give credit where its due.

Not going to get into a shi tting contest with you but will point out what I said was 'in depth' information about care audio and to be honest, I have not read nor seen threads on this forum with much in-depth information about Bose mobile audio let alone car audio so my comment stands.

Credits are due and I've said it as much. I don't take what has been posted on here without merit but it has to be taking with a grain of salt since it surely seem like it's an automatic to shi t on Bose without taking into account packaging, integration, cost and personal preference. Would I have it in my car if I was to build my ride? No but for all the noted above points, it sure works well most of the time for me AND for many many people.

Cbtech 01-14-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zakimak (Post 2651332)
Not going to get into a shi tting contest with you but will point out what I said was 'in depth' information about care audio and to be honest, I have not read nor seen threads on this forum with much in-depth information about Bose mobile audio let alone car audio so my comment stands.

Credits are due and I've said it as much. I don't take what has been posted on here without merit but it has to be taking with a grain of salt since it surely seem like it's an automatic to shi t on Bose without taking into account packaging, integration, cost and personal preference. Would I have it in my car if I was to build my ride? No but for all the noted above points, it sure works well most of the time for me AND for many many people.

So your whole comment is a oxymoron and a total contradiction of credit given.

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to be honest, I have not read nor seen threads on this forum with much in-depth information about Bose mobile audio let alone car audio so my comment stands.

Credits are due and I've said it as much.
The point that I was making, is, the resident audiophile needs to take the time to comprehend what others have written before passing judgement and stating that they are wrong. Daves beginning point was that he has made the BOSE head unit functional for other forms of speakers without having to remove the stock BOSE deck and his initial post was not to doubt Bose quality. It was simply made showing that you don't have to spend all kinds of money on a signal converter to keep your deck and use aftermarket speakers/amps. As i can tell dave is not *shėtting on Bose in total, he is shėtting on their sad paper cone clown horns they call speakers.

RonRizz 01-14-2014 05:28 PM

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sad paper cone clown horns they call speakers.
lmfao

zakimak 01-14-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2651492)
So your whole comment is a oxymoron and a total contradiction of credit given.



The point that I was making, is, the resident audiophile needs to take the time to comprehend what others have written before passing judgement and stating that they are wrong. Daves beginning point was that he has made the BOSE head unit functional for other forms of speakers without having to remove the stock BOSE deck and his initial post was not to doubt Bose quality. It was simply made showing that you don't have to spend all kinds of money on a signal converter to keep your deck and use aftermarket speakers/amps. As i can tell dave is not *shėtting on Bose in total, he is shėtting on their sad paper cone clown horns they call speakers.

No credit was given for in depth information since there was none given and I am not ******** on Dave. He and I knows that.

Sensei Kreese 02-06-2014 10:08 AM

Changed out my factory HU to an Alpine W927HD, 7 inch touch screen. Instant alternator whine and the speakers sound like they are about to blow up. Wish I would have read this before I changed the HU and would have replaced the speakers at the same time. I've tried messing with the crossover, have downloaded what the exact specs should be and put it in the HU, still sounds like crap. It's embarrassing if I turn up the volume. Snap, crackle, pop.

bigaudiofanat 02-06-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Kreese (Post 2681640)
Changed out my factory HU to an Alpine W927HD, 7 inch touch screen. Instant alternator whine and the speakers sound like they are about to blow up. Wish I would have read this before I changed the HU and would have replaced the speakers at the same time. I've tried messing with the crossover, have downloaded what the exact specs should be and put it in the HU, still sounds like crap. It's embarrassing if I turn up the volume. Snap, crackle, pop.

Did you ground your bose amp wire from the harness to the same place as your head unit? Is the ground a clean solid ground? This usually is the main cause.

Sensei Kreese 02-06-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2681935)
Did you ground your bose amp wire from the harness to the same place as your head unit? Is the ground a clean solid ground? This usually is the main cause.

I paid to have it done. Took them 3 days to install a HU and a Viper alarm, they claimed the first Viper they installed was bad so they had to do it again. They messed up my S Mode, the car is at the dealer now and the Viper alarm will not remote start. Not happy. Will search around this site for recommended shops near me to do the rest of the audio/repairs. With 3 days time I expected perfection.

bigaudiofanat 02-06-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sensei Kreese (Post 2681990)
I paid to have it done. Took them 3 days to install a HU and a Viper alarm, they claimed the first Viper they installed was bad so they had to do it again. They messed up my S Mode, the car is at the dealer now and the Viper alarm will not remote start. Not happy. Will search around this site for recommended shops near me to do the rest of the audio/repairs. With 3 days time I expected perfection.

Very sorry to hear this man. :shakes head:

I personally do not even touch push button start cars for remote starts yet. Your lucky they didn't fry the cars computer.

I should be out there in a month or so if you would like me to look at the audio.

Sensei Kreese 02-07-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2682044)
Very sorry to hear this man. :shakes head:

I personally do not even touch push button start cars for remote starts yet. Your lucky they didn't fry the cars computer.

I should be out there in a month or so if you would like me to look at the audio.

I'll keep an eye out for when you come out here again.

SuperDave 02-10-2014 11:22 AM

As Promised: DIY: Upgrade Component Speakers from BOSE

Bear in mind this is a DIY, aka, a cheap and easy solution without having to purchase a bunch of professional equipment or pay a professional to perform work. That said, please don't flame my DIY with negative opinions, or present professional opinions on what you should have or do, as facts, thank you.

axmea? 05-23-2015 02:16 AM

Matt - what about AudioControl LOC's. Any experience with them?

RonRizz 05-23-2015 02:12 PM

Audio Control anything is top-notch.

axmea? 05-23-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3207282)
Audio Control anything is top-notch.

:iagree: Never had problems with them at all. I've used their EQ's, line drivers, crossovers, and center channel processors before for ground up installs but never used an LOC to integrate. I hate noise and is a pain in the *** to fix. Hoping someone can give their testimonial.

Audio Control DQ-61

Uxi 06-16-2015 05:00 PM

Is there anything like a service menu/mode for OEM Bose Nav?

alangoooo 09-08-2015 10:26 PM

Why did I not register for this forums before buying my car :( I assumed it would be easy like my 350z...

Anyways I have the Bose with OEM nav... just found out I probably won't be able to get a new HU but that's fine...
I plan on adding my old Sundown 12" sub and my Memphis amp and make it run with the stock radio. Asked the shop nearby if a basic PAC would be fine but they suggested an LC2 by audio control, would this be okay?
Not adding any other speakers just the sub to the stock radio with an LC2.

ladyschayde 11-12-2015 02:21 PM

So I am in the middle of determining what it takes to move from the stock nav unit in my touring model to the non-bose setup. I've already purchased the interior pieces with the cubby. I am having the shop (who is doing perf work on the car) test out the non-nav setup climate controls (three knobs instead of the various buttons from the nav piece) before continuing.

Does anybody happen to know if they are compatible? I tentatively purchased a NaviSkauto Android Headunit for my SUV to test it out and found it to be pleasant enough to want to use in the Z.

Tokugawa 11-12-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1438224)
As long as you have the bose system and not the nav you can pull the whole thing out. There is still hope!!


Not true, see my recent post. Yes you can pull the Nav System out:owned:

Doggins 02-24-2016 07:04 PM

Sorry to revive an old thread so any help I can get will help me out. I bought a 2009 with the Bose system and no navi. The previous owner has installed a pioneer double din headset and is using the stock bose speakers. I can only assume having not pulled anything apart that everything is installed properly (the steering wheel controls work and the speaekrs are doing fine). My question is, with the aftermarket head-unit installed, can't I just replace the factory Bose speakers with aftermarket ones by running new speaker wire to them from the Pioneer head unit?

Thanks!

avantcrap 05-20-2016 02:52 AM

So this may be already posted and I just missed it but here goes nothing:

I have non-nav bose in my car. I replaced the HU with a pioneer NEX model last year, but now I would like to replace the speakers. If I replace the bose amp with a new one and run new wires, that's all I'd need to hook up new speakers, correct?

avantcrap 05-20-2016 02:52 AM

LOL the person above me posted basically the exact same question.

bigaudiofanat 05-20-2016 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by avantcrap (Post 3483286)
So this may be already posted and I just missed it but here goes nothing:

I have non-nav bose in my car. I replaced the HU with a pioneer NEX model last year, but now I would like to replace the speakers. If I replace the bose amp with a new one and run new wires, that's all I'd need to hook up new speakers, correct?

No, you need to run RCA's from your new head unit to your new amp as well as power wire from your battery to the amp. Then run new speaker wire to all speakers.

avantcrap 05-20-2016 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 3483357)
No, you need to run RCA's from your new head unit to your new amp as well as power wire from your battery to the amp. Then run new speaker wire to all speakers.

So....new wires. :p

ChaseZ 05-20-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by avantcrap (Post 3483286)
So this may be already posted and I just missed it but here goes nothing:

I have non-nav bose in my car. I replaced the HU with a pioneer NEX model last year, but now I would like to replace the speakers. If I replace the bose amp with a new one and run new wires, that's all I'd need to hook up new speakers, correct?

If you had previously bought a HTIB and we're looking to upgrade the speakers, would you use the same speaker wire?

avantcrap 05-20-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseZ (Post 3483758)
If you had previously bought a HTIB and we're looking to upgrade the speakers, would you use the same speaker wire?

No, all of the speaker wires have to be replaced with new ones.

ChrisRoman 10-09-2016 02:43 PM

what is the difference between metro 70-7552 and 70-7552? best buy looked up my car and i left with the 70-7552 and then come on here and see 70-7553.

CKDrums 03-03-2017 08:10 PM

Anyone wanna give up the color codes and or pin slot numbers and there speaker association in order to wire into a LOC such as LCQ-1? Pics? Special side notes? That be great! Excellent thread!!

CKDrums 03-26-2017 05:09 PM

Anybody?

BobbyLight 10-12-2017 04:24 PM

Is there really no way to keep the nav but switch the bottom half to the 3 knob climate control and add a double din? I feel like its possible, but just hasn't been done. I mean if you tore everything down to pcb and went at it with a raspberry pi I think anything is possible, even if the nav screen doesn't show the correct climate control/radio settings etc. Where is the limitation exactly?

bigaudiofanat 10-13-2017 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyLight (Post 3699839)
Is there really no way to keep the nav but switch the bottom half to the 3 knob climate control and add a double din? I feel like its possible, but just hasn't been done. I mean if you tore everything down to pcb and went at it with a raspberry pi I think anything is possible, even if the nav screen doesn't show the correct climate control/radio settings etc. Where is the limitation exactly?

Bro, I don't mean to chime in but you're beating a dead horse. The nav integrates it's brain into the guts of the bottom half of the dash. So unless you want to gut your vent tubing and find a good 8 inch by 5 inch by 6 inch space for a massive cube. It's not going to happen.

DEpointfive0 10-13-2017 07:24 AM

^Lol

Love that you're still here too

BobbyLight 10-13-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 3699954)
Bro, I don't mean to chime in but you're beating a dead horse. The nav integrates it's brain into the guts of the bottom half of the dash. So unless you want to gut your vent tubing and find a good 8 inch by 5 inch by 6 inch space for a massive cube. It's not going to happen.

Glove box? You are probably correct about space being the hard part. I may take it all apart this winter and see what i'm looking at, need a new project anyway. I'll open that cube and can make custom PCB for everything if I have to. The firmware might be a pain in the ***. EE buddy of mine seems to think it will work.

Definitely not worth it but I may try anyway. :tiphat:

bigaudiofanat 10-13-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyLight (Post 3700052)
Glove box? You are probably correct about space being the hard part. I may take it all apart this winter and see what i'm looking at, need a new project anyway. I'll open that cube and can make custom PCB for everything if I have to. The firmware might be a pain in the ***. EE buddy of mine seems to think it will work.

Definitely not worth it but I may try anyway. :tiphat:

You'd have to extend over 50 wires and some proprietary ones to get it over to the glove box. Good luck.

DrBacon 05-12-2018 03:00 AM

Attempting to install a pioneer 2300nex, for some reason the aux input and the bose subwoofer don't work, what did I **** up? :confused:

Edit: Apparently lack of sleep was getting to me, tried it today and everything seems to work fine.

Fountainhead 05-13-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CKDrums (Post 3632572)
Anybody?

Hi CKDrums,

Information on all that is in this site, maybe not the exact path into your LCI but definitely the wiring into and out of the amp module is in the Factory Service Manual and others have posted excerpts of the FSM in here showing at least the wires and connectors. Just dig like hell.

Good Luck.

Uxi 05-21-2018 01:40 PM

Can anyone confirm the connector between the touch screen and the unit? Is it a 4 or 8-wire/pin connector? Was looking to put a Mimics G4 for touchscreen integration. Looked in the FSM but can't seem to find that...

MimicsG4 - customGadz

2SIC4U 04-23-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1780389)
If you have the stock nav there is no way of changing out the head unit, You must keep it and ise a LOC to add new amps and speakers.

If you have the bose system with no nav you can swap out the head unit.

You are completely WRONG!!! I plan to do another post when time permits for my setup but here is how to do the conversion from the Nav to the non-Nav setup http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post3808886

Do that and then you can install an aftermarket head unit or do like me and do a hidden single din unit behind a Workshop Twelve 10.1 dash tablet kit. I have full steering wheel controls, mic, radio, etc with a USB connected and powered tablet.

2SIC4U 04-23-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 3699954)
Bro, I don't mean to chime in but you're beating a dead horse. The nav integrates it's brain into the guts of the bottom half of the dash. So unless you want to gut your vent tubing and find a good 8 inch by 5 inch by 6 inch space for a massive cube. It's not going to happen.

I find a lot of these posts funny. You CAN remove the factory nav unit and you might be able to do a single din below it while keeping the NAV screen; however, you would lose the Nav functionality completely as the NAV controller is built into the AC unit. Check my conversion http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post3808886 which allows you to go to a NON-nav setup.

I went with the WorkShop Twelve 10.1 tablet kit, the needed tablet, hid a single DIN head unit vertical behind the tablet, mounted to where the Nav screen use to be, used 20-pin Subaru/Nissan Headunit/Radio Wiring Harness with Steering Wheel Switch wires, a Maestro SW Universal Steering Wheel control interface (so now I can control radio, volume, etc from steering wheel, and in order to keep the factory Bose speakers/amps I used the Scosche SLC4 (if you do NO use this the speakers will transmit static at low to no volume no matter what source you use, if radio is on you would have this low static noise). Oh, and I also needed the aftermarket Nissan antenna adapter.

If you want to do aftermarket amp and speakers just get the PAC LP6-4 Line Output Converter from the aftermarket head unit to your new amp or follow the examples in the post for a non-nav system.

I also plan to run the head until mic to the stock mic spot in the overhead light area which can be found here http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/2...ocation-2.html

Uxi 04-23-2019 06:23 PM

On a similar note, has anyone tried to put an Altima or Maxima nav unit in the Z? The 2018 models have Android Auto...


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