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37Z 11-22-2011 06:56 PM

370Z Sub Box Feeler
 
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I am creating a mold for a fiberglass sub box that would be replace the foam piece located in front of the space tire in the rear hatch area of a 370Z.

The sub box would include space for a small amp and 2-3 6.5" subs or 1-2 8" subs. The existing foam piece (see attached pic) would be removed and replaced (drop-in) with this sub box. The height would vary depending upon the sub size. The height could flush with the rear hatch floor for 6.5" subs; otherwise, will have to extend up above the floor a couple of inches to clear a 8" sub.

This is an initial feeler to gauge interest. I will give interior specs to properly size your sub's XMAS and other sub spec requirements later. PM back if interested.

90 ST 11-22-2011 08:59 PM

i've thought about doing 3 or 4 8" in that spot, sounds like a good idea, maybe look at a vented box maybe?

eastwest2300 11-22-2011 09:05 PM

Fiberglass is always nice!

Astrosfan 11-26-2011 02:07 PM

hmmm.... im interested. Im looking to do an upgrade around the first of the year.

i was thinking about making a mdf box to fit int he spare tire with either an 8 or shallow 10. i wonder if you could fit 2 8" jlw3s?

eastwest2300 11-26-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Astrosfan (Post 1424130)
hmmm.... im interested. Im looking to do an upgrade around the first of the year.

i was thinking about making a mdf box to fit int he spare tire with either an 8 or shallow 10. i wonder if you could fit 2 8" jlw3s?

I would get with someone that does custom fabrications like that, and have them do measurements.:tup:

37Z 11-27-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1424261)
I would get with someone that does custom fabrications like that, and have them do measurements.:tup:

8" sub will not fit flush with the hatch floor. This area is only 7" wide and 7" deep. If you raise the sub box above the hatch floor a couple of inches or less, then you can install a 8" sub.

JL Audio 6W3v3 will fit with no problem flush with the hatch floor.

bigaudiofanat 11-27-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 1424893)
8" sub will not fit flush with the hatch floor. This area is only 7" wide and 7" deep. If you raise the sub box above the hatch floor a couple of inches or less, then you can install a 8" sub.

JL Audio 6W3v3 will fit with no problem.

There are some 8 inch woofers that you could fit depending on their air volume required and their mounting depth.

37Z 11-27-2011 10:53 AM

8" subs
 
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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1424898)
There are some 8 inch woofers that you could fit depending on their air volume required and their mounting depth.

I curious on what 8" subs you are refering to that will fit into a 7" wide space.

Wiggins3377 11-27-2011 11:23 AM

I'd be interested if the price is right. Personally I would like to see the box rise above the rear floor board (maybe to the height of the bar back there). It would be nice to get the box painted to match exterior etc. and to show off the craftsmanship.

37Z 11-27-2011 03:12 PM

sub box
 
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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 1424966)
I'd be interested if the price is right. Personally I would like to see the box rise above the rear floor board (maybe to the height of the bar back there). It would be nice to get the box painted to match exterior etc. and to show off the craftsmanship.

The sub box would likely be somewhat lower than the aluminum cross bar. This would give approximately 8" interior height. This interior height should be adequate for a JL audio 8w7-3 sub (one of the larger 8" subs on the market and would be sized for its recommended enclosure volume being 0.875cu.ft.).

Personally, I am only adding a Alpine SWR-843D 8" sub so I only need the height for the diameter of the sub.

Regarding the caftsmanship of the sub box; it will likely be fiberglass with a basa core to make it light and keep the interior volume as large as possible.

scionide 11-27-2011 04:24 PM

Interested in seeing the final product, I like the idea so far though!

eastwest2300 11-27-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 1424966)
I'd be interested if the price is right. Personally I would like to see the box rise above the rear floor board (maybe to the height of the bar back there). It would be nice to get the box painted to match exterior etc. and to show off the craftsmanship.

:iagree::tup:

eastwest2300 11-27-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scionide (Post 1425221)
Interested in seeing the final product, I like the idea so far though!

Me too, get 'r dun.:tup:

37Z 11-29-2011 06:36 PM

Sub Box Feeler Update
 
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Originally Posted by scionide (Post 1425221)
Interested in seeing the final product, I like the idea so far though!

So, based upon the responds, I will send back a few design concepts of the initial sub box. The idea is to remove the foam piece located in the rear hatch area and replace it with a sub box. The sub box would be designed to accomodate 8" diameter subs; the largest sub being a JS Audio 8w7-3 8" sub. I will email the initial interior volume (cu.ft.) to gauge the necessary enclosure space specifications.

eastwest2300 11-29-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 1428234)
So, based upon the responds, I will send back a few design concepts of the initial sub box. The idea is to remove the foam piece located in the rear hatch area and replace it with a sub box. The sub box would be designed to accomodate 8" diameter subs; the largest sub being a JS Audio 8w7-3 8" sub. I will email the initial interior volume (cu.ft.) to gauge the necessary enclosure space specifications.

Sweet man, Im looking forward to seeing the finished product:tup:

37Z 12-02-2011 05:29 PM

Sub Box Initial Concept
 
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Originally Posted by scionide (Post 1425221)
Interested in seeing the final product, I like the idea so far though!

Me do! The final design will likely be after the christmas holiday. I will post preliminary design ASAP.

eastwest2300 12-02-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 1433649)
Me do! The final design will likely be after the christmas holiday. I will post preliminary design ASAP.

Cant wait bro!

haitech 12-02-2011 10:48 PM

Sounds very interesting

eastwest2300 12-02-2011 10:59 PM

Theres a few of us waiting to see this.

37Z 12-09-2011 06:55 PM

Composite Fiberglass Sub Box
 
Post up your top sub box trim ideas.

I am thinking of black speaker cloth over the sub area and black matt material over the dead corner spaces. An access panel in similar black trim over a amp area. I may consider smoke color lexan with a Z emblem cover plate housing the amp area.

eastwest2300 12-09-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 1443563)
Post up your top sub box trim ideas.

I am thinking of black speaker cloth over the sub area and black matt material over the dead corner spaces. An access panel in similar black trim over a amp area. I may consider smoke color lexan with a Z emblem cover plate housing the amp area.

this sounds like a nice setup..

37Z 12-11-2011 02:29 PM

Sub Box Options
 
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Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 1424966)
I'd be interested if the price is right. Personally I would like to see the box rise above the rear floor board (maybe to the height of the bar back there). It would be nice to get the box painted to match exterior etc. and to show off the craftsmanship.

Too early on the price it all depends upon the price of the materials and my time. I am not that interested in making money on it, just making a sub box that fellow 370Z owners could use without removing the space tire,etc.

eastwest2300 12-11-2011 05:40 PM

Materials alone are expensive.

haitech 12-11-2011 09:45 PM

affordable is nice

eastwest2300 12-11-2011 10:10 PM

I know the horrors of fiberglass, the labor and time is intensive and the cost is high.. but once the project is done, its usually very very nice!

37Z 12-14-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 1445897)
I know the horrors of fiberglass, the labor and time is intensive and the cost is high.. but once the project is done, its usually very very nice!

In my experience constructing RFP boats, a sub box is easy... no stress points to be really concern about. Of course, the key to a good sub box is the hertz level it is design to. Yes, the cost is more that a MDF sub box just for the material.

I have not been impressed with the manufacturing of the typical fiberglass constructed sub boxes. This is something I enjoy doing.

eastwest2300 12-14-2011 07:59 PM

Dude, I love fiberglass work, it just kept adding up... before I knew it, I was hundreds of dollars in materials, and paint/ air brushing/ clear... just pricey!

37Z 12-29-2011 06:51 PM

Speaker Grill Cloth Source
 
I am looking for a source of speaker grill cloth to cover my sub woofer and amp/signal processor rack.

Also, looking for a source of binding posts. The local Radio Shack does not stock the screw down type.

The sub box is in its early stage of construction. Once it is finish I will post pics. My set-up is with one 8" sub woofer located on the driver's side and the amp and signal processor located on the passenger side.

Additional sub woofers could be accomodated at the expense of location the amp elsewhere.

cdoxp800 12-29-2011 06:53 PM

Try

http://www.parts-express.com/


:tiphat:

Baer383 12-29-2011 09:28 PM

Seems like you guys are going thru allot of trouble for a 8in sub,when you can fiberglass the inside the spare tire and put 6,8,10,12,13.5 sub plenty of room back there and you can keep it flush so you don't lose any space.:tiphat:

37Z 12-30-2011 07:07 AM

Source for speaker parts
 
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 1468137)

Thats for the tip...I'll check it out!:tup:

37Z 12-30-2011 07:14 AM

Sub box
 
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1468369)
Seems like you guys are going thru allot of trouble for a 8in sub,when you can fiberglass the inside the spare tire and put 6,8,10,12,13.5 sub plenty of room back there and you can keep it flush so you don't lose any space.:tiphat:

Yep, I am designing an alternative the the space tire sub box which is no trouble for me. The idea is to have the amp and small sub located out of the way that would not have to be removed in case of a flat tire on the side of a highway under the worst scenario!

Alternatively, I would remove the space tire,jack,foam pieces and construct a false floor that could allow for large sub(s) and amps, but in do not see the need for it in the 370Z (seems to be overkill to me).

RekeHavoc 12-30-2011 01:58 PM

37Z, thanks for taking the time to do this. I'll be very interested to see what you come up with. Roughly how much room do you have left on the passenger side for your amp? I'm wondering if I'll be able to fit an amp and, possibly, MS-8 in there or not.

Thanks again!!

37Z 12-30-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc (Post 1469213)
37Z, thanks for taking the time to do this. I'll be very interested to see what you come up with. Roughly how much room do you have left on the passenger side for your amp? I'm wondering if I'll be able to fit an amp and, possibly, MS-8 in there or not.

Thanks again!!

Its unlikely an amp and MS-8 and 8" sub would fit in the foam piece area.

My signal processor (Audion bitTen) and amp (Hertz HDP-5) was choosen for its small footprint.

greenleaf856 01-04-2012 10:31 AM

Interested...I'm thinking about a couple of 6's in that space...

37Z 01-04-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by greenleaf856 (Post 1475258)
Interested...I'm thinking about a couple of 6's in that space...

Two 6" subs should fit without any problem. What brand? Let me know if you want to include a amp and/or signal processor in this space.

I have only one 8" sub (Alpine SWR 843D) sub located on the driver's side with a signal processor (Audison bitTen) and HERTZ HDP-5 amp located in the passenger side. I have been sick and have halted constructing the sub box at this time. I will post pics once the sub/amp rack is completed.

greenleaf856 01-05-2012 10:21 AM

Probably JL W3's. Haven't decided on an amp yet but I think from a ventilation perspective it would be better under the passenger seat. I don't want the subs to be visible once installed so the carpet would also cover the amp if installed in the same space...

37Z 01-06-2012 09:55 AM

sub box
 
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Originally Posted by greenleaf856 (Post 1477110)
Probably JL W3's. Haven't decided on an amp yet but I think from a ventilation perspective it would be better under the passenger seat. I don't want the subs to be visible once installed so the carpet would also cover the amp if installed in the same space...

I believe JL Audio's 6W3v3 are 6.5" diameter. I almost went with 2 of these instead of ALpine's newly redesigned 8" sub. Two of these JL sub's with a small amp would fit in these space. What amp are you contemplating?

woodfolk1959 01-15-2012 10:45 PM

I'm definitely interested in seeing the results of your subwoofer box. I also think running two JL Audio 6W3v3 would be interesting.

37Z 01-17-2012 06:39 PM

Foam Area Sub Box
 
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Originally Posted by woodfolk1959 (Post 1491942)
I'm definitely interested in seeing the results of your subwoofer box. I also think running two JL Audio 6W3v3 would be interesting.

I will reply ASAP for all that post a PM or reply here regarding the sub box I made. The sub box, inclusive of the floor made out of basa core FRP, weights approx. 6 lbs. The is floor is in black gelcoat with a mat grain finish (looks similar to the plastic pieces in the 370Z, but black in color). I will post pics once the speaker grill cloth is finished.


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