Why are Bose systems hated?

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Anatoray

Rolex actually has something unique, which is the Swiss motion that very few brands have, and I believe it is the best Swiss motion rated at 7 ticks per second? Basically it ticks in such a way that it appears to be one constant smooth motion.

I would relate Rolex to Apple more than anything else, due to their amount of control over their marketing. Like Apple, they only sell their products through select retailers, and have strict price control. They never go on sale, and retain their value. Dealers are not allowed to undercut prices, and actually cannot advertise the Rolex name online. Only recently have they been allowed to give small discounts due to the economy hurting sales, but it's nothing spectacular.

Like some have said though, they are not the best, just the best marketed high end watch. I am biased towards Paddock, which I guess you could say is the TRUE Bose of watches. 250,000 dollars for a watch face with a LEATHER band. Now there's a rip off for a name.

I have to highly disagree, apple and the apple ipod have been taking over the market, the ipod is the number one rated mp3 player and has been for over 6 years now. They hold there value tremendously and also run a lot longer than other cheap brands. IMO it is the best one out there I also own a apple powerbook 64 laptop, it is 3 years old had 0 trouble with it and it has been dropped 3 times by myself. My next purchase will be a new one, once you try an apple out and find out how well they are made you will not want to go back and you will see were spending the extra money is well worth it. Just my 0.02

theDreamer · 07-21-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I have to highly disagree, apple and the apple ipod have been taking over the market, the ipod is the number one rated mp3 player and has been for over 6 years now. They hold there value tremendously and also run a lot longer than other cheap brands. IMO it is the best one out there I also own a apple powerbook 64 laptop, it is 3 years old had 0 trouble with it and it has been dropped 3 times by myself. My next purchase will be a new one, once you try an apple out and find out how well they are made you will not want to go back and you will see were spending the extra money is well worth it. Just my 0.02

Actually, yes/no.
The iPod has taken over the market but not because of it being good or "better" than others. It is because of iTunes and the ease of use for the average consumers. The iPod was very close to dieing just like a few previous MP3 players before it, but it brought iTunes and the music industry to the table and everything changed. They were the earliest to centralize the control of buying/syncing music, and controlled it so well that people thought it was perfect.

Yet now people can buy music from many online retailers, just drag and drop music onto an MP3 player with no thought of format. The idea of iTunes will continue because of the iPhone & the applications, but when I am only able to sync my music with one computer I will pass. I can take my Archos to any computer, drag the music on or off and add anything else I want very quickly, and all without having to install any extra software to do so.

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On the comment about spending 10k on a BOSE system years ago, that would have been money well spent then. They sold out in the past few years and have gone down hill, quickly. Now I am not saying they are horrible, but for the price per dollar you can purchase much better sound systems. Bose quality has fallen over the past years while the industry has moved forward to better technology and higher standards. Bose took a new turn with size, and found that people like small out of the way sound systems, but can lack the ear for quality.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Actually, yes/no.
The iPod has taken over the market but not because of it being good or "better" than others. It is because of iTunes and the ease of use for the average consumers. The iPod was very close to dieing just like a few previous MP3 players before it, but it brought iTunes and the music industry to the table and everything changed. They were the earliest to centralize the control of buying/syncing music, and controlled it so well that people thought it was perfect.

Yet now people can buy music from many online retailers, just drag and drop music onto an MP3 player with no thought of format. The idea of iTunes will continue because of the iPhone & the applications, but when I am only able to sync my music with one computer I will pass. I can take my Archos to any computer, drag the music on or off and add anything else I want very quickly, and all without having to install any extra software to do so.

Edit:
On the comment about spending 10k on a BOSE system years ago, that would have been money well spent then. They sold out in the past few years and have gone down hill, quickly. Now I am not saying they are horrible, but for the price per dollar you can purchase much better sound systems. Bose quality has fallen over the past years while the industry has moved forward to better technology and higher standards. Bose took a new turn with size, and found that people like small out of the way sound systems, but can lack the ear for quality.

Well that is good and all but also illegal, copying and pasting to other computers and sharing and all is just as bad as downloading the song from the internet. It is easily able to be done all you have to do is select let me manualy manage my library and ipod. But me I want quality not quantity and all my music is categorized in itunes it simply can not be beat.. It is the best program for organizing and finding your music I can have a song looked up in as little as 5 seconds. When you do not care about how many songs and start worrying about what format is the music in and what bit rate than you will not want to just grab any song from just any computer.

theDreamer · 07-21-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Well that is good and all but also illegal, copying and pasting to other computers and sharing and all is just as bad as downloading the song from the internet. It is easily able to be done all you have to do is select let me manualy manage my library and ipod. But me I want quality not quantity and all my music is categorized in itunes it simply can not be beat.. It is the best program for organizing and finding your music I can have a song looked up in as little as 5 seconds. When you do not care about how many songs and start worrying about what format is the music in and what bit rate than you will not want to just grab any song from just any computer.

Ummm...never said I want quantity.
I only buy CDs for the best quality, use only WMA Loseless. Also, I have probably four computers and being able to drag and drop my music for my needs is perfect. Also, iTunes is actually the slowest in media management. It has the bigger foot print of an install and usage, it has the slowest interface. Your best programs are Foobar2000 & Media Monkey (a few others but require user work).

kannibul · 07-21-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Actually, yes/no.
The iPod has taken over the market but not because of it being good or "better" than others. It is because of iTunes and the ease of use for the average consumers. The iPod was very close to dieing just like a few previous MP3 players before it, but it brought iTunes and the music industry to the table and everything changed. They were the earliest to centralize the control of buying/syncing music, and controlled it so well that people thought it was perfect.

Yet now people can buy music from many online retailers, just drag and drop music onto an MP3 player with no thought of format. The idea of iTunes will continue because of the iPhone & the applications, but when I am only able to sync my music with one computer I will pass. I can take my Archos to any computer, drag the music on or off and add anything else I want very quickly, and all without having to install any extra software to do so.

Edit:
On the comment about spending 10k on a BOSE system years ago, that would have been money well spent then. They sold out in the past few years and have gone down hill, quickly. Now I am not saying they are horrible, but for the price per dollar you can purchase much better sound systems. Bose quality has fallen over the past years while the industry has moved forward to better technology and higher standards. Bose took a new turn with size, and found that people like small out of the way sound systems, but can lack the ear for quality.

They've been horrible for at least the past 20 years...

Polk Audio is a better brand, as is Infinity Reference (really good), Cerwin Vega...and that's just the stuff you'll find in stores (somewhat)...that's not even mentioning some of the REALLY high end stuff. Crap where you spend around 15K/speaker.

theDreamer · 07-21-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

They've been horrible for at least the past 20 years...

Polk Audio is a better brand, as is Infinity Reference (really good), Cerwin Vega...and that's just the stuff you'll find in stores (somewhat)...that's not even mentioning some of the REALLY high end stuff. Crap where you spend around 15K/speaker.

Not true, 20 years ago they were a very competitive brand, since 2000 they changed their focus of their target audience from enthusiasts to people with deep pockets and no ear. In the end they are making more money, but have lost respect of the audio community. I have a system from 95 or so and it does not beat audio equipment I would buy today, but from the time period it was very competitive for its price.

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