Nismo audio upgrade- critique my planned setup

2fast4thelaw

That is a good set up but for not much more I would recommend the following:

Alpine INA-W900 - It has Bur Brown 24Bit DACs!!! A true High-End double din unit.

JL Audio 600HD 4-channel (Add the Remote Bass Knob, its dead usefull) I feel JL HD amps are noticibly better than Alpine PDX amps.

Focal Polyglass 165 VRs or PolyKevlar K2R Power Series. These in my opinion are the very finest 2-way car audio speakers under $600.00. They will blow you away!

Zenclosures Speaker Box - JL Audio 12W3V3. In my opinion, the best SQ sub JL makes. Perfect match for the HD600 amp.
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Stealth Enclosure by NAZAR with a JL 13TW5. This sub hits like a sledgehammer!


EQ - Audio Control EQX - I highly recommend this unit!! Its an excellent 10V pre-amp and you can really dial everything in to perfection.

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Pharmboy333

Ill take a look at your suggestions and evaluate the cost to performance difference. Honestly dont wanna hit to loud just clean high quality sound lost to much hearing as a youth with the systems in previous vehicles.

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speedfreak28

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then name them..... please

speedfreak28

Off the top of my head...
pioneer ts-c720prs
polk sr6500
hybrid clarus and legatia series
morel dotech ovation
zapco ck comps
just to name a few... dont get me wrong some of focals higher lines are great ( anything with the TN series tweet) but to make the claim they are the best for the money is a little off. Id put JL and Focal in the same trendy overpriced range. if there comps were a cpl hundred less then it would be another story...

2fast4thelaw

You are right about the W6 being flatter than the 13TW5. I had to use steep crossover points and low settings plus a parametric eq to get mine to flatten out.

What I really like about Focal speakers is that they have a strong midrange presence and crystal clear highs. This isnt for everyone, some people prefer a more laid back speaker. I love thier detail and crisp tight midbass they deliver. Thier home audio speakers are incredible!

As much as I love JL's stuff I disagree with you about putting them in the same catagory as JL. Focal speakers are hand made and they manufacture all of thier components. They are a whole other league beyond JL Audio.

To compare a set of Pioneer or even Polk speakers to Focal speakers is like comparing a turbocharged dodge neon to a Cayman S Porche Yeah it may keep up with it but it aint a Porche and it sure doesnt sound like a Porche.

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speedfreak28

You need to educate yourself a little better to make that statement, both pioneer and polk build and design those series in house and they are highly revered in the SQ community. As far as focal being hand made, sure everything above the access line is assembled in france. Alot of the parts ( baskets, cones, ferrite for motors) are outsourced and brought in.

WICKED_GRIN

^^ I agree

2fast4thelaw

I need to educate myself?? You and I are on a completely different playing field when it comes to SQ and car audio. You can think whatever you want, its really irrellevant to me.

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rockhounds

First, thanks for your advices. I noticed that you suggested a JL Audio 600HD 4-channel to power up the Focal's midbass but I didn't see any recommendation for the subwoofer. I'm going on the same direction since I'm looking for SQ and JL looks to be the best shot. The only thing is that I think I'd get the 12W6V2 and I need an Amp for it... I think 1000 1v2 is too much and I need to know if the JL 500 1v2 is enough. Having this set up, should I need to trim or adjust anything on the doors? Do you think that the factory enclosure from JL is the best option to go?

PS - My head unit is an Avic Z110BT.

Thanks a lot!

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2fast4thelaw

the JL 500.1 is perfect for the 12W6v2. That is an excellent subwoofer! A 1000 watts is just too much! If you havent bought an amp yet, I highly recommend the JL HD 900/5 amp. It will power your whole system very nicely.

I wouldnt drop the dough on a JL enclosure though, the ones from Zenclosures are very good and very reasonable.

You will need some spacers for your fronts but I think you can also get them from Zenclosures too and they do not cost much.

Nazar makes a nice eclosure for the 13Tw5 but I will tell you right now that the 12W6v2 is a much better sounding subwoofer. The 13Tw5 is louder but lacks the finess of the w6 series.

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rockhounds

Thanks again buddy. I didn't buy the amp yet but are you sure the HD 900/5 will pull a 100% out of the potential on the sub or would be better to get a 10"? I mean, the sub channel has only 500 W... and the other 4 x 75 W... I heard something about those specs being not in RMS but I'm really not sure.
Also the factory battery is enough to power everything up?

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2fast4thelaw

Oh yeah, it definitly will! The 12W6V2 is rated to 400wrms so throwing 500 wrms on it will push it to its limits. The 900/5 is 500wrmsX1 and 100wrmsX4 and if you bridge the front and rear channels you will have 150wrmsx2 which is where you want to be when pushing a high-end 2-way or even 3-way component system.

I do recommend replacing the battery with a dry cell type battery. They are a big step above the lead/acid spiral cell battery and like 5 steps above an OEM nissan battery. Oddessye and Stinger are the only ones I know of. Your stock battery wont last long with an HD900/5 sucking on it. 1 year max!!

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rockhounds

Thanks a lot guys. My understanding is that the 12W6v2 goes up to 600WRMS so I'm actually delivering 100WRMS with the 900/5 right? About the 4x100WRMS, how would be the best way to hook it up to the Focal Polyglass 165 VR 6.5-Inch 2-Way? Also, do you recommend the JL factory enclosure for the SW?

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2fast4thelaw

I run my 12W6v2 in my Armada with a Alpine MRV-605 and its a tad too much. Anywhere between 350wrms and 450wrms is the sweet spot for this sub. A little more wont hurt as long as you are conservative witht he gains. I would bridge the front and rear channels and drive them at 150wrms. The Focals will take it as long as your crossover isnt too low and be conservative with the gains.

What i really like about the JL HD amps is the lack of bassboost or any equalization. It does not alter sound that is coming in, just pure amplication. I feel that bass equilization just colors the sound and only makes the amp work harder and start producing distortion a lot quicker. I feel the optional bass knob for this amp is very usefull.

If money is no object, then hell yes I recommend the JL enclosure. Otherwise similar results can be had for much less.

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