Jl 13w7?

speedoflife

Haters is an ignorant term. I'm saying nothing against JL's quality. They make excellent subwoofers and amps. Their equipment is top notch and very capable of winning competitions. Saying that it is the standard makes no sense, however. That's like saying the Nissan is the standard for the mass automotive market. People look for many different things in audio, just as they look at many aspects when looking for a car (or maybe a truck or track toy or minivan).
I'm a realist, not a hater. I'm giving hard, cold facts. I've done my research and basing my opinions and statements on more than what I have owned/heard. When I had a problem with my Havoc (a little too much excursion at 22 Htz ), it was very, very nice to be able to talk to the OWNER of the company directly to solve my issue (Scott). Customer service is top notch and those guys put a lot into the product they make.
Both subs are purely excellent choices, I'm just throwing an option out there besides the JL 's. Nothing like a little bit of capitalistic competition!

PS - If this is your first REAL sub setup, the 13" W7 would be overkill. Capable of some huge scores and loud bass in a little hatchback.