Re: Rear Speakers or None?

kenchan · 12-14-2009, 03:28 PM

yah, as noted earlier check out the 2din size ones. the more eq control you have, the better off you will be unless you're going to add amps and redo your speakers, etc.

personally running a pioneer AVH-P3100DVD with rearview camera and steering wheel controller adapter. i just wanted something that can play MP3's, usb, and have the rear camera.

bigaudiofanat · 12-14-2009, 04:29 PM

Actually single din units have more control, such as the alpine 9887 which you can go active with. As far as I know no double din right now can go active. But yes the more power and control you have the better.

37Z · 12-14-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Actually single din units have more control, such as the alpine 9887 which you can go active with. As far as I know no double din right now can go active. But yes the more power and control you have the better.

Please explain what you mean that the alpine 9887 "active control".

bigaudiofanat · 12-14-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 37Z

Please explain what you mean that the alpine 9887 "active control".

Not to make anyone sound stupid but active is for advanced users. Instead of letting a crossover or the amp set your crossover points. You set and control everything including the crossover hrz and all from the head unit. It allows for a lot more control over a system with a lot higher end components and amps. I personally was going to go active but never got to that point. But after about 2 days of running you can make a system sound amazing if it is installed and tuned right.

Alos the cool thing about alpines are if you do not want to do all that they have something called "imprint" which is a device which will setup your system almost as good as you could do by hand with a laptop and a mic.

In normal terms active means the most control over a car audio system.

This might help as well
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146726

37Z · 12-15-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Not to make anyone sound stupid but active is for advanced users. Instead of letting a crossover or the amp set your crossover points. You set and control everything including the crossover hrz and all from the head unit. It allows for a lot more control over a system with a lot higher end components and amps. I personally was going to go active but never got to that point. But after about 2 days of running you can make a system sound amazing if it is installed and tuned right.

Alos the cool thing about alpines are if you do not want to do all that they have something called "imprint" which is a device which will setup your system almost as good as you could do by hand with a laptop and a mic.

In normal terms active means the most control over a car audio system.

This might help as well
Active vs. Passive: An attempt by me to explain - Car Audio Forum - CarAudio.com

Thanks for the explanation for us audio noobs.

Have you installed Alpine's 9887 HU with Alpine's KTX-100EQ in any vehicle? This set-up seams an easy set-up to tune for a typical vehicle's poor acoustics.

kenchan · 12-14-2009, 04:49 PM

yah, unless you have a pull-out screen it's going to be tuff looking at your rearview camera's video in those 1din 2.5" screens.

SophiaZ · 12-14-2009, 04:55 PM

HAHAHA...I had the same problem after I came home with my Z! I went to the dealership a week later and told them to take a look at my rear speakers cuz they weren't working. They came back 10 minutes later and said" Your speakers aren't working becuz you dont have any!" Yea..I felt pretty stupid!

bigaudiofanat · 12-14-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

HAHAHA...I had the same problem after I came home with my Z! I went to the dealership a week later and told them to take a look at my rear speakers cuz they weren't working. They came back 10 minutes later and said" Your speakers aren't working becuz you dont have any!" Yea..I felt pretty stupid!

LOL ya I am actually glad they never had any to begin with.

bigaudiofanat · 12-15-2009, 07:24 PM

I did one in a Lexus suv a few months ago turned out well. I would say that the program the imprint uses is pretty simple and helps the acoustics quite a bit.

JB-370z · 12-15-2009, 07:50 PM

So does anyone know the size of the rear speakers for the people that "do" want to put speakers in the rear???? 3" maybe 4"

bigaudiofanat · 12-15-2009, 08:23 PM

3.5 inches not nearly worth installing there.

cab83_750 · 12-15-2009, 08:24 PM

I don't want to be the bad guy here but I have,IMHO, high end unit setup. However I do miss the fill of the rear speakers.

I bought 3" coAx and I should have them installed by the end of the month. Hopefully the addition of the rears will not ruin my current setup.

Btw if I am not mistaken I almost bought the alpine unit mentioned but if it is the same unit, you will need to buy "another" expensive unit to tweak the heAd unit.

JB-370z · 12-15-2009, 08:27 PM

I dont see what the big deal is if you have the money??? Why are people so quick to be negitive around these parts here partner : )
I would think it would be nice to have some surround sound in place...Guess thats a no-no for some reason other than money.

Room42 · 12-15-2009, 08:31 PM

5.25"

I had rear speakers (JL) installed in base - 8 total in cockpit. I think it sounds great, and surround sound with DVDs is amazing. I'm tempted to sit in my car to watch movies but the wife wouldn't like that much (then again, maybe she would....)

Edit: My receipt said 5.25" but I checked the box - 3.5's were installed.

JB-370z · 12-15-2009, 09:14 PM

Focal does not make 3.5's so I wondering if 4" will fit! Has anyone done this?

12-14-2009, 04:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	Actually single din units have more control, such as the alpine 9887 which you can go active with. As far as I know no double din right now can go active. But yes the more power and control you have the better. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-15-2009, 07:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	I did one in a Lexus suv a few months ago turned out well. I would say that the program the imprint uses is pretty simple and helps the acoustics quite a bit. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-15-2009, 08:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	3.5 inches not nearly worth installing there. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-15-2009, 08:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Room42 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 79 Drives: 09 370z white AT Rep Power: 16	5.25" I had rear speakers (JL) installed in base - 8 total in cockpit. I think it sounds great, and surround sound with DVDs is amazing. I'm tempted to sit in my car to watch movies but the wife wouldn't like that much (then again, maybe she would....) Edit: My receipt said 5.25" but I checked the box - 3.5's were installed. __________________ 20% tint \| Clear bra \| Invidia Gemini CB \| Stillen CAI Eibach Springs \| Stillen Sway Bars \| JDM rear fog light --------------------------------------------- Mustang Dyno - 291 \| Horsepower Logic Last edited by Room42; 12-15-2009 at 08:40 PM.

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12-14-2009, 03:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, as noted earlier check out the 2din size ones. the more eq control you have, the better off you will be unless you're going to add amps and redo your speakers, etc. personally running a pioneer AVH-P3100DVD with rearview camera and steering wheel controller adapter. i just wanted something that can play MP3's, usb, and have the rear camera.

12-14-2009, 04:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, unless you have a pull-out screen it's going to be tuff looking at your rearview camera's video in those 1din 2.5" screens.

12-14-2009, 04:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
SophiaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,466 Drives: 2020 50th anniv 7AT Rep Power: 6733	HAHAHA...I had the same problem after I came home with my Z! I went to the dealership a week later and told them to take a look at my rear speakers cuz they weren't working. They came back 10 minutes later and said" Your speakers aren't working becuz you dont have any!" Yea..I felt pretty stupid!

12-15-2009, 07:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 20	So does anyone know the size of the rear speakers for the people that "do" want to put speakers in the rear???? 3" maybe 4"

12-15-2009, 08:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	I don't want to be the bad guy here but I have,IMHO, high end unit setup. However I do miss the fill of the rear speakers. I bought 3" coAx and I should have them installed by the end of the month. Hopefully the addition of the rears will not ruin my current setup. Btw if I am not mistaken I almost bought the alpine unit mentioned but if it is the same unit, you will need to buy "another" expensive unit to tweak the heAd unit.

12-15-2009, 08:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 20	I dont see what the big deal is if you have the money??? Why are people so quick to be negitive around these parts here partner : ) I would think it would be nice to have some surround sound in place...Guess thats a no-no for some reason other than money.

12-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 20	Focal does not make 3.5's so I wondering if 4" will fit! Has anyone done this?