The drivetrain losses on 7AT aren't that horrible, but I totally understand them wanting a stable testing spec for the first few customers. Their sales depend on word of mouth and results from those installs, and it's hard to control for all the variables.

I always take with a grain of salt when the same shop/company who make a product and give their own dynosheet number for sale purpose.....

I'm not saying they will inflate their numbers and use some of their secret mods to get a bigger result.

I do agree their kit is very nicely priced for a kit like this.
995$ tuned for the first 3 , you cant beat that
then I think it was priced at 1200-1400 on their website ? still a very good price !!

unfortunately it cant beat my unique setup ;) hehe :stirthepot:

Awesome deal. I'd would think you would have people jumping all over this shortly.

Please clarify, $995 is for labor and tune?

Way better put than my shitty explanation... And I'm sure the 7AT's loss isn't that much, again my dyno was 322 in the wrong gear/at the speed limiter without headers or a tune. So at a 20% loss I'm at 400 BHP without $1-3k of mods! Lol

Edit


Read that wrong

Yes. $995 covers the labor to install the Z1 headers, test pipes, modified intake manifold, and a few hours custom dyno tuning the car. It does not include the price of the Z1 400HP Package itself.

$995 would be a steal on labor even just for installing the headers + manifold at a random local shop. It's an awesome deal when you toss in the dyno tuning, and it's awesomer that it's Z1.

<===== google mapped directions from Boston, Ma to Z1 = too far

I was also wondering about this kit also and if possibly the intake manifold will be available for sale on its own. What kind of gains will it offer by itself. Thanks

Not sure why you tossed your " not correct " numbers ?
Hence wrong gear = wrong numbers and every dyno reads different . Your 322 on mine is probably closer to 306 WHP maybe . An they use a dynojet an those are high no? So really a 340 WHP number that reads high is more like 320 or so just saying .
Just for giggles I'm at 300 WHP on a X coupe no tune and on a known low reading dyno ( 5%) lower than anyone else around here . So on the others I'd make close to 315whp, again just saying .
They wound lose anything of their kit made 400bhp on an auto .
Just sounds weird they only want to use a manual
And autos don't lose that much more , I have seen dynos or manual guys with the same mods as me and where almost the same WHP 4-5 WHP away

995 bucks for dyno time, headers, intake, and installation is a screaming deal any way you slice it.

I don't get this...
On your what?

I got 321.8 WHP or something in 4th gear meaning the value should be higher in 5th, the 1:1 gear ratio. AND when I ran in 5th, I hit the speed limiter and got 321.1 WHP. And yep, Dyno Jet for me too.

They read "average." Meaning Mustang Dynoes run really low, "heartbreak dynoes," Dynapacks read REALLY high, and Dyno Jets are in the middle.

Again, dyno to dyno is BS, same dyno on different days with different weather conditions is BS, lol. They just want a 6MT to assure that the kit they are advertising to have 400BHP actually HAS 400BHP. Testing it on a 7AT adds 1 if not 2 extra variables. (AT loss being more than MT, and no lightweight flywheel)

hellllllll of a deal!!!

I've been running this setup for a long time now, and its a great package, and 995 for the labor and tune is a fantastic price!

Not always true on your statement of the Dynapack reading really high,
during my Dynapack Vs Dynojet Testing day within 2-3 hours, there was 3whp difference between 321whp on the dynojet Vs 324whp on the dynapack. All with SAE reading.

but I totaly agree with your second statement,,,
seeing one dyno saying 350whp and the other one say 320whp, doesn't mean **** all...
Its Only a tuning tool ! before / after , gain or not.

I've got everything except the manifold and cant wait till it is available!

Josh,

I emailed you guys last week about having this kit installed an tuned soon. I was looking for a total price installed and tuned vs a cost for parts shipped to me, let me install, and then drive down for a tune.

I have an Ark exhaust and will be installing a Takeda intake soon along with a new radiator.

I can also offer a review on the dragon since I live 10 miles from it.

Let me know what you guys can do?

Thanks

Z1,
As part of the tune are you able to improve the gas pedal delay?

How much power is lost with high flow cats and did you have any check engine lights?
Regards,
Mark

John,
When will your intake be available?

sub'd for more people's 3rd party results with the IM

Attached is my dyno with the Z1 powermod (manifold not 400hp kit) pre and post tune. The tune was a touchup tune. The car was previously tuned for the same mods listed below.

Mods:
Z1 post maf tubes w/stock filters.
NST pulley's
F.I. CBE
Stock Cats

This was by far the best mod I have purchased. It really beefs up the midrange, which makes the car more enjoyable to drive around town, while maintaining top end power. I will say that the exhaust tone changed a bit in a positive way: slightly bassier tone at idle and a noticeable throaty sound at WOT. From the results of the dyno sheet, I highly recommend you get a tune after installing this to get the full potential out of it.

I am assuming I am a few HP higher than this now with k&n drop ins. I cant find the sheet but the car made 304hp with Cosworth filters. Changing them to new(ish) stock filters netted +4-5hp.

How much for just the manifold?

So the only difference between the 2 pulls in your dyno is the manifold and re-tune ( already had it tuned before for existing mods)? Wow, looks too good to be true.

The big question is how this thing does compared to the motordyne manifold

If z1 offers this by itself, I might pick it up and let you all know.

To be clear the first run and baseline is with the manifold installed with my old tune, and the second line is the end result of the manifold + tuning.

On a different day, with different exhaust and intakes the car made 285 whp with the m370 on this dyno. The dyno sheet is in the m370 thread results post look for the one titled Daisuke.

It is not the best and clearest a + b = c dyno comparison but the gains are noticeable and worth it IMO.

It is on the website now: http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...9ssec36vnpshl5

At that price it is a steal and definitely a better $ to HP ratio.

** edit **

On the website the second dyno sheet is m370 vs z1 powermod. The results speak for themselves.

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Looks like it's available on their site by itself now, not just as part of the 400hp kit.

Is there a dyno with the average of the runs so we can more easily see the differences throughout the rpm range?

I'll ask Jon @z1 if he can send a more detailed sheet with the other runs.

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oh man, hope i don't have to much trouble selling the m370 if i switch to this

So according to their testing about their modded vhr intakme manifold is a 9whp gain for 295$ + 220$ core charge if you dont return yours ....

So I wasnt to far off by asking 525 for a complete modified intake manifold. ;)

edit ; oups... I thought on their website they did the stock VHR Intake manifold vs their modded one.. but it was the unmodified HR vs their modded one..

I would love to see an actual test with a modified HR vs their VHR ... I would still stand if about an HR modified could be superior 3500-7000whp ;)

If the same modification on the HR intake manifold *m370* .. a very similar result will be gaining and will still remain the best for 3500-7000rpm

Looks like this is gonna be going on my list of moar powah things to buy. Maybe Z1 might have a sale on it at Zdayz and I could just switch it out then? :stirthepot:

Zdayz 2014!!

You never know what will happen at Zdayz but whatever does stays there. :eekdance:

hey john i pm yesterday

This is true...

John we might have to, ya know... WORK SOMETHING OUT WINK WINK NOD WINK

Zdayz 2014!!

Man, this is tempting. It seems to get the low-mid to mid power and top end.