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ZKindaGuy 08-06-2009 11:08 PM

WRONG APPLICATION - Nissan 370Z Wheel Locks
 
WARNING: The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks. I had these locks on my 370Z Rays and after one month of driving with them the locks began to show signs of stress fractures around the locking pattern. One wheel lock completely sheared off from the pattern to a 1/4 inch down the lock shaft itself.

I took it over to the Nissan dealer and they indicated the locks that are required are shank-style and the ones being sold by Nissan as the wheel locks for a 370Z are not shanks and they need to be......and they also pointed out the shaft tip should NOT have the beveled tip but should instead be straight shaft shanks.

In fact they showed me that these "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" don't even screw on far enough to make contact with the wheel to create locking pressure on the wheel. They stated the wheel locks are in plain words the wrong wheel locks to use on the 19" Sport Rays application.

They told me that I have been driving around for a month in essence with just 4 lug nut on and that any cornering in the past month I was doing was putting severe stress on the "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" which was what was causing the wheel locks to fracture and shear.

They indicated the correct wheel lock for the 370Z Rays is the McGard
#21153 wheel locks
as these are the correct shank length and shape in that they are straight shafts.


Fortunately no damage was done to the Rays while driving for the past month with the wrong wheel locks being sold by Nissan .

Modshack 08-06-2009 11:13 PM

Been discussed before. Unfortunately many dealers have done this (including mine) thinking the old locks they used on 350's would be the same. I believe there was a bulletin to parts correcting the mis-information..

Wrong set on left (now in the landfill)
http://images44.fotki.com/v1487/phot...MG_1429-vi.jpg

molamann 08-06-2009 11:39 PM

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...d-lug-nut.html

Pushing_Tin 08-07-2009 12:04 AM

I bought some from one of the sponsors here. The kit is actually for a 2007 G35 sedan. Are these also incorrect? I do not have a lug nut wrench at the moment to take them off.

Pushing_Tin 08-07-2009 12:22 AM

The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: Nissan Wheel Locks, 2009 370Z

Modshack 08-07-2009 08:12 AM

Those are not correct for the Ray's wheels (at least those represented in the picture).

semtex 08-07-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 141738)
WARNING: The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks. I had these locks on my 370Z Rays and after one month of driving with them the locks began to show signs of stress fractures around the locking pattern. One wheel lock completely sheared off from the pattern to a 1/4 inch down the lock shaft itself.

I took it over to the Nissan dealer and they indicated the locks that are required are shank-style and the ones being sold by Nissan as the wheel locks for a 370Z are not shanks and they need to be......and they also pointed out the shaft tip should NOT have the beveled tip but should instead be straight shaft shanks.

In fact they showed me that these "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" don't even screw on far enough to make contact with the wheel to create locking pressure on the wheel. They stated the wheel locks are in plain words the wrong wheel locks to use on the 19" Sport Rays application.

They told me that I have been driving around for a month in essence with just 4 lug nut on and that any cornering in the past month I was doing was putting severe stress on the "Nissan 370Z wheel locks" which was what was causing the wheel locks to fracture and shear.

They indicated the correct wheel lock for the 370Z Rays is the McGard
#21153 wheel locks
as these are the correct shank length and shape in that they are straight shafts.


Fortunately no damage was done to the Rays while driving for the past month with the wrong wheel locks being sold by Nissan .

This isn't quite correct. I think there's some confusion on the part of your dealer. I recommend you review this thread, where this topic has been thoroughly covered: http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...d-lug-nut.html

But I'll give you the Cliff Notes real quick. When the 370Z was first released, they did not have wheel locks. Dealers started just throwing on the standard wheel locks that fit all Nissans, not realizing that the Z's wheels were different. This picture here shows one of the lug nuts from a 19" Rays Sport wheel on the left, and one of the 'standard' Nissan locks that the dealers were putting on:

http://www.the370z.com/members/chris...ocking-nut.jpg

This was a colossal fail on the part of the dealers, and these standard locks started fracturing, as shown on the far right of the above pic.

Since then, they have finally gotten with the program and now have locks that are correct for our wheels. This is what they look like:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9338/img0236.jpg

These are the ones you want. Notice that they're exactly the same dimensions as the stock lug nuts. So your blanket statement that "The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks" isn't quite accurate. It depends on which locks your dealership is selling. If a dealership is selling the 'standard' Nissan locks for the 370Z, then yes, those are the wrong ones and they need to come off asap. But if they're selling the ones pictured above, those absolutely are the correct ones and there's nothing wrong with them.

The McGard 21153s I put on my car are also compatible, but understand that I put them on my car as an interim measure. In other words, I ordered them before Nissan caught up and released the correct locks. Now that the correct ones are out, there's really no reason to go with the 21153s. Btw, just as a side note, the Nissan locks are also McGards (i.e., McGard makes them). In fact, I have since swapped out the 21153s for the 'correct' locks from Nissan.

Hope that clears things up. :tiphat:

Lloydy 08-07-2009 08:28 AM

This explains a lot - a few weeks back my TPMS came on, and as I have Nitrogen in the tires, I went back to the dealer for my free top up. Turned out I had 2 nails in my rear tire. Anyway long story short, they replaced the tire (luckily I took the tire warranty option). They then told me they had split the wheel lock putting it back on and would have to replace them too - just checked and they used the correct part #

nogoodname 08-07-2009 08:42 AM

just make sure you have the washer & cone style lugs/locking nuts

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/P1000610.jpg

VCuomo 08-07-2009 11:21 AM

These are the correct wheel locks: 370Z Wheel Locks

I have them on my Z and they work just fine.

ZKindaGuy 08-07-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 141905)
This isn't quite correct. I think there's some confusion on the part of your dealer. I recommend you review this thread, where this topic has been thoroughly covered: http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...d-lug-nut.html

But I'll give you the Cliff Notes real quick. When the 370Z was first released, they did not have wheel locks. Dealers started just throwing on the standard wheel locks that fit all Nissans, not realizing that the Z's wheels were different. This picture here shows one of the lug nuts from a 19" Rays Sport wheel on the left, and one of the 'standard' Nissan locks that the dealers were putting on:

http://www.the370z.com/members/chris...ocking-nut.jpg

This was a colossal fail on the part of the dealers, and these standard locks started fracturing, as shown on the far right of the above pic.

Since then, they have finally gotten with the program and now have locks that are correct for our wheels. This is what they look like:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9338/img0236.jpg

These are the ones you want. Notice that they're exactly the same dimensions as the stock lug nuts. So your blanket statement that "The wheel locks being sold by Nissan for the 370Z are NOT the correct wheel locks" isn't quite accurate. It depends on which locks your dealership is selling. If a dealership is selling the 'standard' Nissan locks for the 370Z, then yes, those are the wrong ones and they need to come off asap. But if they're selling the ones pictured above, those absolutely are the correct ones and there's nothing wrong with them.

The McGard 21153s I put on my car are also compatible, but understand that I put them on my car as an interim measure. In other words, I ordered them before Nissan caught up and released the correct locks. Now that the correct ones are out, there's really no reason to go with the 21153s. Btw, just as a side note, the Nissan locks are also McGards (i.e., McGard makes them). In fact, I have since swapped out the 21153s for the 'correct' locks from Nissan.

Hope that clears things up. :tiphat:

I have already ordered the 21153's version based on the Nissan Technician's recommendation. Would you say the McGard #21153's will work correctly?

Modshack 08-07-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 142075)

I have them on my Z and they work just fine.

Yeah...seems like they work fine right up til when they break. I'm not impressed with McGuard style locks at all.... Anyone out to steal your wheels can defeat these easily with the right tool..or they'll break and leave you stranded and unable to remove your wheel. Seems like too many things to go wrong with these..(but thay are cheap enough)

dad 08-07-2009 12:11 PM

http://www.the370z.com/images/servic.../NTB09-024.pdf

Pushing_Tin 08-07-2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 142165)


Thanks for posting that Dad! According to that bulletin the parts that I ordered are in fact the correct appilcation. Apparently the G35 had similar lug nuts as the 370.

semtex 08-07-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 142113)
I have already ordered the 21153's version based on the Nissan Technician's recommendation. Would you say the McGard #21153's will work correctly?

Yes, they will work. No harm done.


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