10K on your tires? What are you running and how are you driving? With track time? I'm happy if I get 8K out of a set of tires with no track time on them!

Potenzas Suck!!!!
 

So, I know why my car doesn't handle in the rain!!! I was up for my 4k inspection but was procrastinating until my SLIP and ABS light came on. Took it in yesterday at 4,500 mi on it and they said my tread was gone, zip, nada!!!! I told them about the handling problems and they said this was why is was having issues and why the SLIP and ABS light were on only we were all stumped as to why so soon.
They have 100% even wear, the car was just aligned after the springs were put on a mth ago and I have a camber correction kit which is why they wore even. HOW IN THE HECK CAN A COMPANY JUSTIFY 4,500MI TIRE LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read the reviews on these POSs and there are numerous complaints of handling poor in the rain and tread life..... which go hand in hand.

My sis in law has a new M5 and her tires were visibly bald (mine are textbook bald) around 8k so I called to see what brand they were and what do you know? POTENZAS!!!! BMW said 8 k is normal and did nothing for her. Makes sense why NISSAN looked clueless since they have 2 performance lines where as BMW deals with performance on a regular. Either way, 4k or 8k is ridiculous. Reviews range on tread life from 6k -23k ranging from Ford Fiestas to SUVs and all have the same mixture of reviews and complaints. Tires should be getting ~30k!

Could this company be interchangeably using different types of rubber for the "same" tire? If my tread was worn irregularly I could understand it being something other than the tire itself. I just see them trying to say it's the springs but I have had those springs on my last 3 cars with no problems only compliments. My Honda Accord, 350Z, and now 370z.....all never wore tires before their expected life expectancy. SO FRUSTERATED AND DON'T FEEL I SHOULD BEING BUYING NEW SHOES THIS EARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Toe-in most greatly affects tire wear, they wear evenly so it is not detectable on anything but an alignment rack. Check the print out from your last alignment and see what they set the toe to.

Pretty much all of the extreme performance summer tires have poor tread life (<10k) although people have managed to get as much as 20k out of the OEM tires. They give the most grip in the dry but do not handle standing water well due to lack of tread. OEM's put these sticky tires on so that they report well in magazine comparisons for things like cornering G and slalom speed.

You can go with an intermediate summer tire like the Michelin PSS, you will get longer life and still have fairly good grip, but not to the same extreme in the dry (but will be a world better in the wet).

Bottom line, it's not the car, it's the tires. The car is very fast and predictable in the wet on the right tires.

Bridgestone Potenzas...:confused: I am sure i don't drive as hard as you guys do. And it was garaged from early November to late March. As i gain experience i bet my tires wear more like yours...auto crossing and Nelson Ledges later this summer again. I AM HOOKED. And at a point i can afford it. :tup: god i love this car:tup:

Getting a heavy car to handle well often requires wider tires and stiffer suspension. Those two things also tend to make wet handling suffer.

It's about like all other driving with this car, you've gotta push back when it starts pushin on you. I've learned that this a vehicle that enjoys punishing driving. Runs better when beat on, drives better when your bordering with loosing control. You've gotta learn to trust your driving skills in a RWD car in rain or snow..crack open another beer and speed up lol (Ohio driver, how we roll)

^That's a learning curve I wouldn't recommend for the street though.

:icon18: are you drinking that beer right now?!

Trust me. That wasnt how i was rolling on 35 this evening about 5 pm. :wtf:

Racing in the rain is great, except it can be scary when you drive over puddles or rumble strips or even painted lines

Yah, painted lines are as bad as RR crossings..

Ok, I'm at the alignment shop to check specs before I go to the dealer and my camber and toe are way off despite being aligned on April 1st. How does this happen and still get 100% even ware? Do you think the dealer tweaked something knowing I was going to bring it back in 2 days? I had it realigned since I was within 6 mth so they honored the alignment warranty but is off about a little but I'm guessing this is because the springs are settled whereas when the alignment was done the first time the springs were just put on. When they told me the alignment was way off the RL was -1.50 and RR was -1.72. At dealer now so I'm curious to see what they say. So far, I have almost 50 reviews reporting poor tread life with an avg of 8k. I drive mostly freeway at about 100mi round trip on 1-10 Ca which means aweful roads. This is not a land yatch and I definitely don't drive it like one. I keep it about 80 mpg freeway but stomp on it quite often since I'm usually alway late. I drive this car the way it was meant to be drivin while still respecting it. Still can't justify replacing tires with mi reading this morning at 4700mi.

You have to let the springs settle before you get an alignment. Otherwise you end up in the situation you're currently in. It's not the tires fault. High performance rubber wears out quickly. You burning yours up in 4k miles is due to a bad alignment.

:ugh2:Then why did they wear even? The alignment was off too far to drive the distance I do. Couldn't wait for them to settle or I would have had uneven wear much sooner. I don't understand since I have taken the same measures with my last 2 (same Eibach springs). Aligned them right away and never touched them again until they needed new tires. I didn't even have correction arms on the Honda and 350 and got much more drive time on them.:confused:

Stock tires are definitely crap in rain.

I felt very shakey in rain and did not go very fast, felt terribly shakey.

Now that I'm on the RE-11's big difference way more stable and I'm running 305 in back, so quality tires make a huge difference

That kind of tire wear is only going to come from your toe being out or spinning the tires too much. 4000 miles is half the average life people are experiencing.