Um...
No...
Out stockies are way better than the hankook's.
If you track you'd know the huge difference.
If price is a huge factor, I guess the hankook's are worth it.

Thank you for stating that as I just purchased the Nitto NT05 and absolutely love them. I was starting to think wait a minute the Hankook's have a higher tread life then both the Bridgestone’s and the NT05 and they perform better then the Bridgestone Potenza's?

The NT05's grip really well when taking a hard corner and basically just grip well no matter how hard I push my Z. At high speeds the NT05 track much better then the Bridgestone Potenza's. I thought Bridgestone’s were a bit twitchy at high speed.:eekdance: NT05's are actually less harsh over rough streets as well. Got a winner here! Now we will see how long they last. I got 19,500 out of the Bridgestone's, yeah I drive a lot.

Whats better for daily driving? Hankooks? or NT05

HK's

JoeD has been banned for a good bit over a month.... :hello:

haha sorry damn i've been so busy with work that i haven't been able to focus on all these threads!

Is anyone running these in a 275 Front 305 Rear on the stock sports wheels?

There's a slight ice storm going on today. Slight loss of traction is to be expected with the HK Evo, but I like how it handles cold temps so much better than the stock tires. Plus, I think warm weather grip exceeds the stock tires as well! It just feels different.

^ Thats what I heard. As long as you keep them at a regular operating temperature they are fine. If you get a good bit more heat into them they slide like butter.

Up to a certain temp they are better than stock grip, but after that threshold they go to hell. Luckily you will never get to that point on the street.

Oh, I don't know about hot weather testing yet. I honestly don't remember how good the T1-S and T1-R tires are. I wasn't too crazy about these tires, and the price was overkill for everyday driving.

Digi, I think you noticed the shudder/chatter of the OEM tires. Have you noticed this with the HKs?

Where did you get this info?

^ From several friends who track their cars, local shops, one guy I met a meet the other night, from people at the last trackday i went to and finally from all the reviews on tire rack from people who actually track the cars.

I definitely don't have actual numbers, but that's what I keep hearing over and over again. a month or two ago when I was looking to buy tires, one guy from a local wheel shop marketed them to me as cheap drift tires lol

Darn, I was strongly considering them. However, I don't need any issues during my track day at Road America if these things heat up and lose grip. Hmphhh...what to do?

How do you like the NT05s? Are they daily driveable? I can't really differentiate between the Nitto lineup (INVO, NT05, NT555, etc).

NT05's are excellent tires. Very daily drivable, less noisy than stockers. Lots and lots and lots of grip. No problems in the rain, just be careful as you would with any summer tire.

I would recommend this tire to anyone. If RE11's didnt exist, I'd be getting NT05's again as my next tire.

If you can swing the higher price of the NT05's, there is absolutely no reason why anyone would choose the V12s over the Nittos.

Cool. I value your opinion. The NT05s are still much less than the stock Bridgestones and only a bit more than the V12s. Definitely 'doable'.

And, they come in OEM sizes for those who want to stay with it. For me the decision is made.

^ I went with OEM sizes too. It works PERFECTLY.

Nope no cold weather issues here. :tup:

I know MANY that have these tires, and they are one of the best street tires they have owned and they track their cars too. The people who told you that probably had improper tire pressure and pushed their tires past their limits too long. When you know your tires are getting hot, any tire will start to get greesy. Adjust tire pressure, and then go at it. They aren't race tires folks. But they are rated right below the Z1 Dunlops.

That review has been brought up several times and frankly no one cares about it.

To the OP and the rest of the folks here: That is what I've heard and that's what I know. Spearfish, if for some reason you want to listen to this guy, just think about turn 9 at RA and let me know how important saving a couple hundred bucks is. He just likes to oppose everything I say.

NISMOZ, he is talking about Road America and you want to send him out on Hankook V12s?

Well it is what I know and what I heard as well. You have never owned the tires yourself just read what you see on the net. I have people I know who have actually ran these tires. Do what you wish, but Nittos are not all that.

You haven't steered me wrong yet, and I've asked you for plenty of advice. The thought of RA in October has me upgrading all kinds of stuff. Carbotech XP10/8 pads are arriving in two days. I have Motul RBF600 fluid sitting on the shelf behind me. New Bell helmet in the box on the floor. Now for tires :driving:

No biggie. I have been racing since 1994, so I guess my experience doesn't meet his. lol!

It's not about taking sides nor is it a competition. Given my novice level of track driving, the reality is that any of these tires will probably out perform my driving. This is how I talked myself out of coilovers.

I'm taking this post, enlarging the words and printing them out. I am then hanging them on my wall. Forever.

This will save me a fortune.

My buddy has them on his SI and loves them, there pretty sticky :tup:

I also wouldn't disregard that Car and Driver review. I used to work with Spencer Geshwein, the driver/tester in that review, and he is a very talented driver, with many, many years as a test driver with Michelin. He has also won the One Lap of America, so he has talent (and knows how to evaluate tires). When I worked at Ford, I remember when they first signed a contract with Hankook - nobody could believe the manufacturing capabilities and performance of the tires (not that this translates to a good track tire). Since then, I have been open to Hankooks, plainly due to their uniformity and quality capabilities.

BTW, I have no experience with these tires, but have been looking at purchasing them.

You are exactly right. You will eventually push your car past it's tires limits with experience, but with any street tire, it will get greasy after time. That is what race tires are for. :)

Hell, I have taken my Daily Acura TL Type-S with Michelin MXM4s out there, it did okay with them. :)

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Great post of people who track their cars and testing different tires.

Do auto and/or tire manufacturers have any role in these manipulating these reviews though? My concern is that greasing some palms gets their tires rated better. Perhaps pure cynicism but sometimes that's how the world works.

These are actual users like yourself that did the reviews.

Bump.... question seems to have been lost in the following "mine is bigger/better" debate....

I had 265F/285R Ventus V12s installed a couple weeks ago. I've noticed a slight shimmy in my steering wheel between about 60-80mph. I was chalking it up to the road surface but I just swapped to my winter tires and the shimmy is gone. I guess I'll get the tires rebalanced but I recall reading some threads about the Hankooks being lop-sided. Sigh...if rebalancing doesn't fix this, it's last cheapo tire I buy. If it wasn't for the shimmy, I'd give them pretty high marks so far.



*** Had them rebalanced at another installer and all four tires/wheels were 2 or more ounces off and the weights were in the completely wrong spots. Waiting a couple weeks for the weather to shape up here and then I'll see if that fixed the shimmy...but I can't see how it wouldn't. The first installer should be run out of the business.

Interesting. I never had that issue.

So, do I have to buy tires from Apple? Because their iPad work very well:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

I ordered my HK v12 today and i was just doing the search to see if i made a good choice. So far i think i am reassured that i have not made a bad decision going that route.

My tires will arrive at Discount-Tire in 3-4 business days and i'll put them on

Probably the best bang for your buck daily driver tire in terms of modest performance and wear, but by no means is it a high performance tire. Wore out a set and went to re-11's which I've been extremely happy with. Actually got more miles out of the re-11 as well. I have a set of rs3 on order because I wanted to be able to flip flop tires again.

So i've been driving the Hankook for a day or so now, and i gotta save i'm very pleased with the performance. I am not a crazy driver to go fast and take sharp corner but i do drive a good distance :shakes head:

The drive is a lot smoother than the stock tires (i may be biased cuz my stock tires were worn when i bought my Z at around 18k miles)
But regardless, i drive 50 miles round-trip just for work, and i had not felt any discomfort with them so far. They do not give any crazy feeling or do not urge me to give more gas, but they could be fun if i wanna go out of the line a bit :driving:

Like everyone said, i think they're fun tires if you do drive some good distance like i do, and for the value, you cannot go wrong with them