Yeah, I mean, If i'm gonna throw down for a sports car it's gotta be at the very least a Porsche.. i mean the Japanese ones are good for the money but that doesn't mean they are good:bowrofl:

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Yeah, I mean anyone who wants a deal for their money is obviously poor.

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You know, maybe it's just me, but I won't pay anything less than full market price for an item, even my clothes. If it's on sale, i figure it's for the poor people or all the young wannabes and therefore I can't be seen in it.

Pfft, paying full market price is for poor people, I always pay 15% above asking price so people know what a baller I am.

oh man i hadn't even thought of that.. i feel so cheap now..

i'm going to go out and buy something really expensive just to show my worth

Yeah man, unless you're living "paycheck to paycheck," there is no reason you should not be throwing money around like confetti. I mean, the whole reason we are in the financial mess is that people don't throw their cash around.

Your right, I think to be on the safe side, i recommend that we all buy type R compound tires and swap them out after each use. If it's good enough for the pro's then it's good enough for me. Besides it's bound to increase my accel/decel times and distances!

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Yeah, putting your financial priorities into your vehicle is the only thing that really makes sense for people not living "paycheck to paycheck." Don't invest your money in property, improve your house, or the like. Vehicles are the only investment that stands up over time.

If we'd all start spending all our disposable income, we could buy ourselves right out of this recession................. fvck the savings rate :p

Right. Talking about saving money and not spending it frivolously is for people who live paycheck to paycheck. Sissies. Put your money where it makes the most sense, your tires.

Performance + bling + costs = bragging rights :iagree:

Well people don't see my house when I go out.. they just see my car and clothes so i got to be showin off otherwise people will just think i'm a nobody. I ain't paycheck to paycheck and i need everyone to know it, thats why i roll on $4k tires! Trust me, the girls know the difference! Property, houses, and a portfolio are for losers!

I like this policy.. it might just work :ughdance:

Performance + bling + costs + bragging rights = Sensibility

Samsung DVD player broke, Samsung Mp3 player, broke, etc etc so on and so forth. I don't know anybody with a Samsung that enjoys it. Another friend of mines dad bought a big screen Samsung, that thing has horrible input lag, couldn't play fighting games on it at all. My Panasonic Plasma is worlds better.

Leading global electronics company, that has failed time and time again to impress me. I don't hate either company, I'm just saying they've always failed to impress me, and I don't mind paying a few extra dollars to pick a brand that never fails to live up to my expectations.

For the record no I haven't bought Hankook, because I've been satisfied with my bridgestones, and again, a few extra dollars doesn't bother me, when over the life of the tire it comes out to pennies on the mile.

Too funny guys - nice run ;) That wasn't just a mock - it was a mockumentry....

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No. But anyone who skimps out on the most important aspect of a vehicle for a measly $600 every three years or so is. Then of course, they go spend $1500 on "fat beat that knocks, yo." :tup:

lets see, the day I get 3 years on a set of tires, I'll spend 4 grand on a set. I'm happy to get a yer out of them.

Also, These tires are rated #2 by tire-rack in their category, beating out many that are more expensive. I find them better than the bridgestones by far!

You fail to see what kind of test they placed 2nd in. It was a comparison of budget tires. That's like Maxim coming out with a list of "The Hottest Female Celebrities Over 200 lbs" and saying hey...she's hot because she came in 2nd! :ugh2:

I'll keep on bringing it up as long as it's mentioned and I'll hold my ground...it's foolish to downgrade from factory tires in letting cheap price influence your decision on a purchase you will only make a handful of times for the life of the car. Tires of that ilk are no different than eBay carbon hoods and mufflers. Guess what...you almost always see them on the same car, too. I guess some people need to learn the hard way what it's like when you try to skimp and buy parts on the cheap, as you very well have in your experience with Forgestar. There is a reason why I would not even think about wheels from them.

I'll stick with quality stuff, thanks. :tup:

good for you Mr. Holier than though...they keep me planted better than the stock tires, so I'm 110% satisfied...

why bother JoeD, ppl didnt die cause of falkens or hankooks.......

so leave it alone.



no need to preach it

That's true. Although, in a way, it has an affect on me. If more of these cars start running around on low-end parts like tires marketted to the "import tuner crowd" and Konig/Rota/ADR wheels, eBay intakes, some hack-job exhaust, eBay cf hoods, etc...it makes me look bad. Look at how many POS early-model 350Zs you see as a perfect example.

I'm lookin out for myself here. :)

when that starts to happen with the 370Z, there will be a new model Z by then....... upgrade :)

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Cheap prices don't necessarily mean they are cheap parts and expensive prices don't necessarily mean quality parts.

Look at 360Forged for instance.... they cost $4K+ for wheels and aren't any better than a set of Vossen wheels sold for $2.4K or a set of Forgestars for $1.5K...


Unless making your wallet lighter and thus reducing the weight in your car, allowing you to accelerate and decelerate quicker, all while maneuvering corners at higher speeds, makes them better. Then yes, they are better!:bowrofl:

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I agreed until you said Forgestar...

forgestars are in thier own league of crappiness

I'm only speaking structurally on the forgestars.. their customer service is nearly as bad as 360Forged



And to their credit.. Forgestar eventually ships.. 360Forged however has a record of not even shipping.. so I guess the 4k for wheels that never show is worse than 1.5k for wheels that show but just 6 months late... and with 360 forged they have a record of shipping orders that were place as 19x9.5 & 19x10.5 but instead ship 18X8.5 and 18x10.5 while so far forgestar did eventually ship the correct sizes...


My point being that crap comes in expensive prices and cheap prices and that just because one is more expensive it doesn't mean it's any better.

I'll take Volk or Vossen for the $2k-4k price range over the $4k-6k range for 360Forged and have just as good a wheel

Your comparisons and analogies are completely flawed.

Try actually reading the comparison reviews. On the C&D test, it outperformed the PS2's, which are almost twice the price, on almost every category; on the only few parts it didn't surpass the PS2's, it practically matched it.

... but that's fine. It's your money. But try to do some research before spreading false information :tup:

If the hankooks are not that good, is there a better tire out there for around 200-300 that I should consider? I dont plan on going to the track.

okay first i want to say... I have hankook dynapro AT-M its a suv/truck tire... so i cant vouch for the car tires. but i will say my tires are amazing never had a problem with it and never will get other ones...

Anymore owner experiences? As long as the Hankooks are meet or exceed the stock tires, I don't mind getting them. Is the Ventus V12 is quieter than the stock tires?

Heck, I've not ordered the tires yet... not till I'm certain about the fate of my stock Sport wheels.

I've got about 2k miles on mine.

My impressions:
dry Grip - at least as good as stock, might be a tiny bit more sidewall flex, but overall I am happy with the traction.
wet confidence - definitely better than stock in the rain, I feel a lot more confident on these tires
Noise - after putting my stock wheels/tires back on for a few days since I am getting my wheels powdercoated, I gotta say that the stock are quite a bit louder than the V12's
Overall - will definitely buy again, fantastic tire for the $$

Did you notice much difference in steering response going to a 255 up front?

I just replaced my stock tires with these and I couldn't be happier. They perform above and beyond my expectations. I was going to buy the stock tires again till a guy from the dealership told me to give the hankooks a try. They perform much better than the potenzas, plus they are noticeably quieter. sin

**price didnt matter to me since I own my own business, but buying a product thats "better" and "cheaper" is a no brainer, Dont have to be rich to be smart.

I just replaced my stock tires with these and I couldn't be happier. They perform above and beyond my expectations. I was going to buy the stock tires again till a guy from the dealership told me to give the hankooks a try. They perform much better than the potenzas, plus they are noticeably quieter.

Anyone have these and drive them in the cold weather? I want to make sure they don't have the OEM scrapping/frozen/grinding issue. Let me know, thanks.

hahahah i cant believe i just saw this thread. joeD not this again. We've been there done that with your "i'll stick to the expensive stuff" from that falken thread. Dude....if 99% of the consensus is in disagreement with you maybe you need to start re-evaluating yourself. But then again, since u dont live paycheck to paycheck i guess you're better than all of us so it doesnt matter in the end.