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YamahaR6 04-15-2013 01:23 PM

Dunlop Direzza Z2 or RE11
 
I had my mind set on RE-11 and DUNLOP came out with Direzza Z2!

I am looking at my stock, the rear has about 20% left (the most) and the front 60% (or more).

http://www.the370z.com/members/yamah...502-123141.jpg

I will replace all 4 tires now, but planned to replace just the rear (with the same brand) next time when the rears are done.

However RE-11 is going to be discontinued, that means the next set is going to be all 4 again.

So might go with Direzza Z2 hoping they will still sell them 2 years later.

I know Direzza Z2 is still new on the market, but would be great if someone has some input.

Cheers

enkei2k 04-15-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 2267953)
I had my mind set on RE-11 and DUNLOP came out with Direzza Z2!

I am looking at my stock, the rear has about 20% left (the most) and the front 60% (or more).

I will replace all 4 tires now, but planned to replace just the rear (with the same brand) next time when the rears are done.

However RE-11 is going to be discontinued, that means the next set is going to be all 4 again.

So might go with Direzza Z2 hoping they will still sell them 2 years later.

I know Direzza Z2 is still new on the market, but would be great if someone has some input.

Cheers

I didn't know the RE11's are being discontinued. :( that sucks.

YamahaR6 04-15-2013 03:24 PM

according to tirerack and some other sources.

The RE-11s will be discontinued soon, in replacement RE-11A; HOWEVER, they don't have 19" (yet or never)... If they don't, that means RE-11 are the last the Extreme Tire Category from Bridgestone for 370z...

chrischhorn 04-15-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YamahaR6 (Post 2268088)
according to tirerack and some other sources.

The RE-11s will be discontinued soon, in replacement RE-11A; HOWEVER, they don't have 19" (yet or never)... If they don't, that means RE-11 are the last the Extreme Tire Category from Bridgestone for 370z...

RE-11's will NOT be discontinued. Only selected sizes will be converted to the RE-11a. NOT ALL OF THEM! This was told to me directly by a Bridgestone representative. They have stated that the RE-11a will only replace the most common sizes. The RE-11's will not be discontinued in sizes that are not replaced by the RE-11A.

YamahaR6 04-15-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2268097)
RE-11's will NOT be discontinued. Only selected sizes will be converted to the RE-11a. NOT ALL OF THEM! This was told to me directly by a Bridgestone representative. They have stated that the RE-11a will only replace the most common sizes. The RE-11's will not be discontinued in sizes that are not replaced by the RE-11A.

I stand correct...:tiphat:

But the stock seems to be running low and they are having a "close out" sales on tirerack...

tranceformer 04-15-2013 08:00 PM

Discontinue RE-11's??? Somethings you just don't joke about...

cossie1600 04-15-2013 08:20 PM

Is $309 really close out? I feel like it is just less of a raping

Ackrite 04-20-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2268505)
Is $309 really close out? I feel like it is just less of a raping

Is that $309 shipped? I just got a set of rears installed today for $315 a piece OTD. 285/35/19

cossie1600 04-20-2013 04:40 PM

That is a good price. MNaybe I should check with the local store and see if they can do $1200 for all four

Ackrite 04-20-2013 06:01 PM

I went to a local store that covers sales tax and only does a small markup for mount and balance when you pay cash.

YamahaR6 05-30-2013 10:39 AM

FYI

"The RE-11 285/35/19s are all out of stock because they have been discontinued."

No longer available on tire rack.

Mitco39 05-30-2013 10:50 AM

305's are gone too :(. Really sucks because I love my RE11's.

YamahaR6 05-30-2013 11:31 AM

I guess the next best thing is Dunlop Z2.

phohman 05-30-2013 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=YamahaR6;2267953]I had my mind set on RE-11 and DUNLOP came out with Direzza Z2!


I know Direzza Z2 is still new on the market, but would be great if someone has some input.


So has anyone buy/tried the Dunlop Z2's Still pretty new, but I have heard it is a great Track/DD tire!

YamahaR6 05-30-2013 12:57 PM

Just ordered a set. Will let you know in 2 weeks.

Alstann 06-02-2013 09:11 PM

And here I was, about to get RE-11 in 305 in the next few weeks.

I hope a replacement comes soon - otherwise, maybe S-04 it is.

enkei2k 06-02-2013 10:07 PM

Those Z2's look like really bad tires for rain, which sucks for me since I tend to drive in rain or shine.

Really wanted those RE-11's too...

TheGreatOne 06-02-2013 11:20 PM

Heard very little on the Dunlop, heard from a guy from another guy that they were decent but he was going to get something else next.

I'm happy I grabbed some RE-11's off Tire Rack back in April. They were on sale and had just a few left in 265/305 sizes

Hotrodz 06-02-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2345182)
And here I was, about to get RE-11 in 305 in the next few weeks.

I hope a replacement comes soon - otherwise, maybe S-04 it is.

I ordered S-04s because I could not find a full set of RE-11s. Right now the price is right on S-04s, about $1000 for a set!!! 265 fronts and 305 rears...

YamahaR6 06-03-2013 06:56 AM

There isn't a direct compare with Re-11s and Z2 yet.

But here's a tirerack.com extreme tire with the Re-11s and Dunlop Z1 star spec (previous version of Z2):

Tire Rack Tire Test - Testing the New Extremes of Extreme Performance Summer Tires - YouTube

The Bridgestone came on top but Dunlop Z1 star spec came pretty close (correct me if I am wrong, but it was a #1 tire from previous test).

The New Dunlop Z2 is suppose to be better than Dunlop Z1 star spec (according to tirerack):

Tire Test Results : Dunlop Direzza ZII Introductory Track Drive

So I would say the Dunlop Z2 should be better or even closer to the RE-11s.

But the bottom line is, I think it's safe to say "Dunlop Z2 is better than stock in rain or shine."

Fishey 06-03-2013 09:08 AM

RE-11's are about the bottom of the performance list these days.

I personally have found that most other performance tires have surpassed them.

YamahaR6 06-03-2013 10:28 AM

:wtf2:

TheGreatOne 06-03-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishey (Post 2345617)
RE-11's are about the bottom of the performance list these days.

I personally have found that most other performance tires have surpassed them.

Not sure if serious :wtf2:

DR_ 06-03-2013 12:12 PM

He's serious, and correct.

While the RE11 were towards the top back in '09 there are a lot of tires in this same segment that have since surpassed them.

Alstann 06-03-2013 12:20 PM

I feel like the price of the RE-11 made them a good buy as well, compared to the AD08, RS-3, or Star Spec.

syclone2163 06-03-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2345858)
He's serious, and correct.

While the RE11 were towards the top back in '09 there are a lot of tires in this same segment that have since surpassed them.

Can we have some examples perhaps? I also was looking at RE-11's since i need tires very soon and i would love to hear what else preforms as good or better then the RE-11's.

tranceformer 06-03-2013 04:30 PM

+1

what are some good options other than RE-11's?

YamahaR6 06-03-2013 04:35 PM

Correct me if I am wrong:

If you are looking to compare with RE-11s which are in the "Extreme Performance Tires Category" (not much to start with) AND has sizes for the Z, search the following:

Yokohama Advan AD08
Dunlop Direzza Z2
Hankook R-S3
Nitto NT05

Not saying the above are the "only" choice of summer tires but if you are comparing with RE-11s, I would choose from the same category.

DR_ 06-03-2013 04:43 PM

^ You are correct and the Dunlop Direzza ZII and Hankook R-S3 will outperform the RE11 at an autocross or on the track.
If you aren't going to autocross or track then you shouldn't be looking at this type of tire.

YamahaR6 06-03-2013 07:37 PM

Agree ^... can't maximize the tire on the road.

But is there such thing as too much grip?

Question (strictly performance speaking):

Would a Max Performance Tire (S-04) = Extreme Performance Tire (Re-11) on the street?

cossie1600 06-03-2013 10:54 PM

No

XwChriswX 06-03-2013 10:59 PM

You could just get Michelin Pilot Super Sports. :tup:

Alstann 06-04-2013 12:08 AM

Hey guys, check TireRack - they're back on in 265 and 305 again.

/confused

cossie1600 06-04-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2346995)
You could just get Michelin Pilot Super Sports. :tup:

Still slower

DR_ 06-04-2013 08:34 AM

I bought the Direzza ZII and so far they have been great. They are quieter than the OEM Bridgestones and the sidewalls feel a little stiffer in stock sizes.
I've taken then to Texas World Speedway on a hot day and found they will get greasy if pushed hard, however the will come back if you take it easy for a few corners. They are very progressive towards the limit, so I never felt on the edge, which increased my confidence in them, and brought down my lap times.
I have them installed on an extra set of OEM wheels and will use them mostly for track and getting to and from the track.
http://www.the370z.com/members/dr_-a...dunlop-zii.jpg
Here are some of my laps and as you can hear they don't squeal a lot like the stock tires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UfeGzPTpkI

syclone2163 06-04-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2347375)
I bought the Direzza ZII and so far they have been great. They are quieter than the OEM Bridgestones and the sidewalls feel a little stiffer in stock sizes.
I've taken then to Texas World Speedway on a hot day and found they will get greasy if pushed hard, however the will come back if you take it easy for a few corners. They are very progressive towards the limit, so I never felt on the edge, which increased my confidence in them, and brought down my lap times.
I have them installed on an extra set of OEM wheels and will use them mostly for track and getting to and from the track.
http://www.the370z.com/members/dr_-a...dunlop-zii.jpg
Here are some of my laps and as you can hear they don't squeal a lot like the stock tires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UfeGzPTpkI

Awesome thanks for the feedback. The ZII's were the other tires that i was considering. Looks like i may have to give them a try. I had the ZI's on my S2000 and loved them and i hear the ZII's are ever better. :tiphat:

XwChriswX 06-04-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2347369)
Still slower

Huh?

If that's the case, it's not the tires, it's the driver. :ugh2:

nismosis 06-05-2013 10:54 PM

Depends what you want to do. The ZII's are popular in the ST AutoX classes right now, and they perform well. However, many are going to the BFG Rival, including me when the +/-1" wheel diameter goes into effect next year for the Stock classes. I'll be stepping down to 18's just so I can run Rivals.

Red__Zed 06-05-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2348542)
Huh?

If that's the case, it's not the tires, it's the driver. :ugh2:

Nah, the PSS don't handle nearly as well on the track.



OP,

Zii is the autoX choice, re11 is the track option.

cossie1600 06-05-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2348542)
Huh?

If that's the case, it's not the tires, it's the driver. :ugh2:

come back and try again after you have driven on both tires


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