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elvturbo 01-28-2013 09:15 PM

Best Spacers size for Nismo with Swift Springs-Revised
 
From what I've researched on this forum having Swift springs on a Nismo with 19" stock Rays wheels and stock tires:

The general census is that if you want to be flush as possible to the fender, but if you want to still get the stock alignment, tires, wheels width, using Swift springs; Then you should have a spacer setup of 15mm-Front and 20mm-Rear or at least 15mm all around, Right?

But if you plan or prefer to have wider tires, you should only get 15mm front and back, to leave room for the bigger tire width and still get stock alignment, am I right guys?

I need suggestions from the Bro's on this great forum. :tup: Regarding the best Spacers setup for a 2012, Nismo: With stock tire size and stock wheels, but only lowered with Swift Spec-R Springs.



These are the common setups that I have read on this forum:
15mm-F and 15mm-R
15mm-F and 20mm-R
20mm-F and 20mm-R
20mm-F and 25mm-R

I know that part of this will depend on your taste and tire width also.

So my question is that if anyone on this forum has a similar setup; What Spacer Size should be best to be flush with the wheel opening, but without rubbing the insides when turning or over road bumps? :confused:

My Swift Springs are on their way and I want to install the spacers and the springs at the same time, but don’t what to have my tires to be poking out of the fender that it’s very noticeable.

I will really appreciate your help. Thanks! :driving:

BlkNismo 01-28-2013 09:21 PM

General consensus for Nismo is 15mm all around.

b2autodesigns 01-28-2013 10:31 PM

Yep 15 all around. You need to do the H&R DRM with long studs also. The V2 style won't fit in the front.

chops 01-28-2013 11:54 PM

im lowered on coils, but similar in height to the swifts. i went 15mm all around. the front rubs ever so slightly at 15mm so i wouldnt go more than that

370ZNISMO#704 01-29-2013 12:37 AM

I was on swifts 20mm on all four no rubbing for me with stock tire specs. Now I'm tucking 1/2 inch of tire front and rear on coils pretty damn low with 20mm still front and rear and fronts rub only on hard bumps going slow over bumps no rubbing. Also camber and toe kit in rear. But I would not go 25mm. I have some pics of the offset and setup on swifts in my albums hope that helped.
Cheers!!

elvturbo 01-29-2013 09:08 PM

Thanks evrybody!

everybody else, please feel free to post your experience with spacer size and swift springs, but on stock alignment specs.

your imput would be much appreciated, for me to make my decision.

I almost went 15mm in front and 20mm on the back. But now I am not sure if the back tires will rubb occacionaly with 20mm installed.

elvturbo 01-29-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370ZNISMO#704 (Post 2136144)
I was on swifts 20mm on all four no rubbing for me with stock tire specs. Now I'm tucking 1/2 inch of tire front and rear on coils pretty damn low with 20mm still front and rear and fronts rub only on hard bumps going slow over bumps no rubbing. Also camber and toe kit in rear. But I would not go 25mm. I have some pics of the offset and setup on swifts in my albums hope that helped.
Cheers!!

Thanks 370ZNISMO#704!

Any rubing on the back tires?

370ZNISMO#704 01-30-2013 12:39 AM

No but I'm sitting at -2.1 rear camber. A little off -1.7 Nismo spec.

elvturbo 01-30-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops (Post 2136086)
im lowered on coils, but similar in height to the swifts. i went 15mm all around. the front rubs ever so slightly at 15mm so i wouldnt go more than that

The general census is that if you want to be flush as possible to the fender, but if you want to still get the stock alignment, tires, wheels width, using Swift springs; Then you should have a spacer setup of 15mm-Front and 20mm-Rear or at least 15mm all around, Right?

But if you plan or prefer to have wider tires in the future, then you should only get 15mm front and back, to leave room for the bigger tire width and still get stock alignment, am I right, or you think it should only be 15mm all around period, to have a better ride with the nismo specs? Thanks!

tjlazer 01-30-2013 07:28 PM

20mm for SoCal hella Hella flush style. ;)

mantella87 01-30-2013 09:45 PM

I'm running 20mm on all four wheels, base 370Z, with NISMO tire specifications (245/40/19 & 285/35/19) on Swift springs. It's perfect, although I understand that the NISMO body is very different, it probably looks just as good or better on a NISMO. I have not touched my alignment, either.

fuct 01-31-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 2139700)
I'm running 20mm on all four wheels, base 370Z, with NISMO tire specifications (245/40/19 & 285/35/19) on Swift springs. It's perfect, although I understand that the NISMO body is very different, it probably looks just as good or better on a NISMO. I have not touched my alignment, either.

the body isnt different when it comes to this issue. the wheels are wider.....

fuct 01-31-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b2autodesigns (Post 2135967)
Yep 15 all around. You need to do the H&R DRM with long studs also. The V2 style won't fit in the front.

you mean DRS

H&R 15.0mm DRS Type TRAK+ Wheel Spacers 3065662 HR3065662 | STILLEN

370ZNISMO#704 01-31-2013 11:21 AM

Hey take it from me you need to go get a alignment your toe is way outta whack with the drop the swifts give and your gonna burn through your tires 50% faster in the rear then normall. Also your camber should be able to be corrected really close to spec I believe yours is -1.4 in the rear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 2139700)
I'm running 20mm on all four wheels, base 370Z, with NISMO tire specifications (245/40/19 & 285/35/19) on Swift springs. It's perfect, although I understand that the NISMO body is very different, it probably looks just as good or better on a NISMO. I have not touched my alignment, either.


Realale 01-31-2013 12:51 PM

Would the 20mm bolt on spacers work with nismo wheels and stock ride height? I know the 15mm have to be stud replacement type right.

fuct 01-31-2013 01:07 PM

replace the studs, its the safest way to go about it. and you have less chance of fugging something up plus its less hardware/weight...... but to each his own

Realale 01-31-2013 01:08 PM

Ok. thanks for the info.

BlkNismo 01-31-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realale (Post 2140531)
Would the 20mm bolt on spacers work with nismo wheels and stock ride height? I know the 15mm have to be stud replacement type right.

I dont think spacers are a good idea on OEM height from a cosmetic standpoint.
Yes 20mm bolt on are fine for rear.

mantella87 01-31-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370ZNISMO#704 (Post 2140381)
Hey take it from me you need to go get a alignment your toe is way outta whack with the drop the swifts give and your gonna burn through your tires 50% faster in the rear then normall. Also your camber should be able to be corrected really close to spec I believe yours is -1.4 in the rear.

Yeah, I planned on getting a camber kit and alignment after the springs settled. I had the springs installed about a month before I put my car in storage (for a four-month trip overseas), so when I get back in a month, it's camber kit/alignment time!

mantella87 01-31-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2140311)

I'm assuming the DRM 20mm won't fit up front due to the specs of the NISMO wheels, correct? I ask because I am using 20mm DRM (one piece) spacers up front on sport Rays without issues.

fuct 02-01-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 2141168)
I'm assuming the DRM 20mm won't fit up front due to the specs of the NISMO wheels, correct? I ask because I am using 20mm DRM (one piece) spacers up front on sport Rays without issues.

no, 20mm fit.

DRS are the one piece stud replacement type
DRM are the bolt on type

elvturbo 02-01-2013 12:23 PM

Everyone feel free to post your pictures with this spring and spacer setup: On a Nismo with stock Tires and stock 19" wheels, on Swift Springs.

Also please and indicate your spacer size, tire sizes(if bigger than stock), and if any rubbing noticed.

I will post my springs pictures as soon as I have them installed. My Springs should arrive by this week or next at latest.

Your imput will be of much help to everyone on the forum. Thanks!

mantella87 02-01-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2142304)
no, 20mm fit.

DRS are the one piece stud replacement type
DRM are the bolt on type

The DRS spacers are not one piece, they come with replacement studs... more than one piece. The DRM spacers are referred to as "bolt-on" because they are only one piece.

tjlazer 02-03-2013 12:57 PM

Yes it will work, see this link for a comparison with stock vs 20mm on swifts though. Not a fan of tire sticking out past fenders. rock chip city

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...mo-rims-2.html

fuct 02-05-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantella87 (Post 2143038)
The DRS spacers are not one piece, they come with replacement studs... more than one piece. The DRM spacers are referred to as "bolt-on" because they are only one piece.

sorry i wasnt considering the bolts as parts. i didnt make that very clear.

the part i highlighted doesnt make sense to me either but its early...


bottom line buy the DRS ones!!!!

Tiny Tokes 05-28-2013 03:47 PM

Here we go...
 
Been scrubbing all the blogs on this for a while now... I have a 2012 Nismo :tiphat:and just purchased Swift springs and H&R 15mm/20mm for my ride. I have stock rims and tires. Apparently everyone says this is THE setup to have..
I was going to just go 15/15 with no change in springs, but the rebound I was getting on the highway was starting to bug me and my GF a bit. SUPPOSEDLY, this will smooth that out a bit and tighten corner turns a lot.

My only worry is that I live in Michigan and our roads are not like Cali and Florida... :icon14: oh well... wish me luck, pics to follow.

Let me know if anyone has the same setup. From what I hear, the ride should be perfect and hopefully I won't rub and/or bottom out!:happydance:

Tiny Tokes 05-31-2013 11:26 PM

Hmmmm.
 
Figured there would be more feedback on this by now... :shakes head:

olddudesrule 06-01-2013 05:42 PM

Sub'ed. Installed Swift springs a couple of weeks ago, and also wondering about the spacers too. Can't really decide between the combinations.

Hotrodz 06-01-2013 11:17 PM

Go 15s all around. Many Nismos out there with that setup regardless of Swift or something else. I have them and having 265s front and 305s rear installed next week.

olddudesrule 06-02-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2343962)
Go 15s all around. Many Nismos out there with that setup regardless of Swift or something else. I have them and having 265s front and 305s rear installed next week.

Thanks Hotrodz. That's the direction I'm leaning, specifically for that reason. I want to upsize to 305 in the rear, and am concerned about 20mm spacers in the rear living the tire hanging out too much.

BTW, not to derail the thread, but who did your UpRev tuning. Noticed you were in AZ.

Hotrodz 06-02-2013 02:46 PM

Checkout this thread in the tuning section: http://www.the370z.com/tuning/68698-...alifornia.html

Sebastian at Specialty Z....Its worth the drive!

olddudesrule 06-02-2013 03:08 PM

Cool, thanks. Sounds like Sebastian at Speciality is the man to see for a Z tune. Wish I could find someone with a similar rep here in the Phoenix area. I used Loudpedal Motorsports in Tempe for my Z06, and they had a similar rep for LS motors.

Thanks again for the lead.

Hotrodz 06-02-2013 03:30 PM

Rodger that!!! Good luck...

fuct 06-03-2013 09:22 AM

15mm spacers with 305's fit great with the tein springs. not sure how low the swifts go. you can get away with 20mm in the back but youll need some negative camber to get it to fit.

olddudesrule 06-03-2013 05:10 PM

I tell you what, I haven't heard anyone mention having more offset at the front wheels, but with my current set up (stock Nismo wheels with Swift springs), I'm almost considering a larger spacer up front, smaller in the rear to even them out. Tried to measure it yesterday without a plumb line, and it looked like @ 13-15MM in front, and 7-10 in the rear to run flush with the fender. I realize this is also dependent on the brand of tire (I'm running stock Yokohamas), but I'm trying hard to only buy one set and be done with it.

It's frustrating because I haven't heard one person on this thread, or others related to spacers, talk about running larger spacers in the front....:confused:

Hotrodz 06-03-2013 08:01 PM

You should check some of the other threads as some do run 15s in the rear and 20s up front.

fuct 06-04-2013 07:54 AM

bottom line it depends on how low you are. with tein springs i can still add a few mm's to my 15mm set up and it be flush. but if i raise the car any the wheels will poke out.

guys these are spacers, its not rocket science.

Hotrodz 06-04-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2347334)
bottom line it depends on how low you are. with tein springs i can still add a few mm's to my 15mm set up and it be flush. but if i raise the car any the wheels will poke out.

guys these are spacers, its not rocket science.

:icon18: :iagree:

fuct 06-05-2013 08:08 AM

i should take a video of the car in the air then lower it. you will see the rims poke out by almost 2 inches at one point then settle and camber in to about -2 degrees. when i first installed the spacers and the car was in the air i was shocked at how far they poked out! i thought i had some ghetto lowrider truck.

olddudesrule 06-05-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2348775)
i should take a video of the car in the air then lower it. you will see the rims poke out by almost 2 inches at one point then settle and camber in to about -2 degrees. when i first installed the spacers and the car was in the air i was shocked at how far they poked out! i thought i had some ghetto lowrider truck.

Haha, my worst nightmare! :icon18:


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