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PaulZ370 01-05-2013 08:23 AM

TPMS Recalibration issue
 
Ok, I searched, but could not find anything - actually a Kazillion TPMS posts but none with this specific issue:

I recently purchased a set of OEM wheels (19" Rays) with OEM tires (Bridgestone Potenzas) from one of the Forum Members. They are in mint condition with hardly any tread wear at all - I was told he had 3500 miles on them, and they look it. Real nice, clean, no issues... except once I put them on my Z and took it to the Dealer to Calibrate the TPMS, the handheld computer they were using to recalibrate them kept coming back with "Incorrect TPMS". The original owner's Z is a 2012 6MT Coupe, and mine is a 2011 6MT Coupe. The dealer is going to look into it some more and get back with me, but in the meantime, thought I'd check with the GURU's on the site. I also e-mailed the original owner to see if any work had been done to the TPMS - which I doubt - the wheels and Tires look untouched, but asked just to cover all bases.

I can understand maybe one sensor failing or such, but all four being the "Incorrect TPMS" is kinda strange. I am thinking it's a procedural error on the Dealer's part - not doing something correct with the handheld computer they were using. But...

Anyone with any ideas?

DEpointfive0 01-05-2013 08:26 AM

You need the correct TPMS sensors...

Did you put YOUR TPMS sensors on it?

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2095280)
You need the correct TPMS sensors...

Did you put YOUR TPMS sensors on it?

No. I put the Stock Wheels as they are from the other Z on my Z. Why would they be the "wrong" TPMS sensors if they are stock (Nissan) TPMS sensors on Stock Z wheels?

DEpointfive0 01-05-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2095287)
No. I put the Stock Wheels as they are from the other Z on my Z. Why would they be the "wrong" TPMS sensors if they are stock (Nissan) TPMS sensors on Stock Z wheels?

They make different models and aren't interchangeable year to year, or 6 months to 6 months... Either because they are bastards and want to make more money somehow or they're just bastards

Put YOUR TPMS sensors on and you should be good to go

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2095290)
They make different models and aren't interchangeable year to year, or 6 months to 6 months... Either because they are bastards and want to make more money somehow or they're just bastards

Put YOUR TPMS sensors on and you should be good to go

Nice... so what your saying is, I have to break the tires off the rim, change out the TPMS sensors, then remount the tires on the wheels... (which also means I'd have to re-balance... I know, I know, I don't have to, but I am very a n a l, but not to change the subject...). I mean, WTF...

..oh by the way, I'd have to break the tires off the rim on TWO sets of tires, mine, and the new ones to be able to swap TPMS sensors... WTF-Squared!

DEpointfive0 01-05-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2095294)
Nice... so what your saying is, I have to break the tires off the rim, change out the TPMS sensors, then remount the tires on the wheels... (which also means I'd have to re-balance... I know, I know, I don't have to, but I am very a n a l, but not to change the subject...). I mean, WTF...

Yes... Sorry


You don't actually have to take the tires OFF all the way, just unmount it a bit... Then you can get to the TPMS sensors...

If you don't f with the tire much, you may be able to get away without a rebalance...


If you're going through that trouble... Get the TPMS rebuild kit, new battery, valve stem and O-ring I think


Make sure they don't take you to the cleaners on that... Dealer price is like $15, COSTCO CHARGES $4/EACH

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2095298)
Yes... Sorry


You don't actually have to take the tires OFF all the way, just unmount it a bit... Then you can get to the TPMS sensors...

If you don't f with the tire much, you may be able to get away without a rebalance...


If you're going through that trouble... Get the TPMS rebuild kit, new battery, valve stem and O-ring I think


Make sure they don't take you to the cleaners on that... Dealer price is like $15, COSTCO CHARGES $4/EACH

Appreciate the input... I might just run with the TPMS light on rather than go thru all that hassle until I need new tires, then perform all necessary mods to the TPMS... :icon14:

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2095307)
Appreciate the input... I might just run with the TPMS light on rather than go thru all that hassle until I need new tires, then perform all necessary mods to the TPMS... :icon14:

Here's an additional fact I just thought of...

It was the Dealer's handheld computer that kept stating Wrong TPMS sensor... not necessarily that my Z would not accept the new TPMS sensors... He would put the computer at the TPMS sensor on any of the four tires, press to read the sensor, and it would ring back the "Incorrect TPMS" code. On the handheld computer, there was only one option for the 370Z and it read "370Z 2009+". So, there weren't any difference in model years to choose from on the Dealers computer....

Something's fishy in Denmark....

BuckeyeZ 01-05-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2095298)
Yes... Sorry


You don't actually have to take the tires OFF all the way, just unmount it a bit... Then you can get to the TPMS sensors...

If you don't f with the tire much, you may be able to get away without a rebalance...


If you're going through that trouble... Get the TPMS rebuild kit, new battery, valve stem and O-ring I think


Make sure they don't take you to the cleaners on that... Dealer price is like $15, COSTCO CHARGES $4/EACH

Not true. The TPMS sensors are registered with the BCM (body control module) for every car. That way you do not pick-up sensor signals from other vehicles driving near you and why your car does not recognize the new sensors. I am surprised the dealer did not know this. The dealer should just be able to reflash the BCM and have it register the new TPMS signals. There is no need to remount tires, etc. They have to do this whenever a sensor goes bad or you replace a sensor for whatever reason.

I would either ask the dealer again or find another dealer.

DEpointfive0 01-05-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 2095351)
Not true. The TPMS sensors are registered with the BCM (body control module) for every car. That way you do not pick-up sensor signals from other vehicles driving near you and why your car does not recognize the new sensors. I am surprised the dealer did not know this. The dealer should just be able to reflash the BCM and have it register the new TPMS signals. There is no need to remount tires, etc. They have to do this whenever a sensor goes bad or you replace a sensor for whatever reason.

I would either ask the dealer again or find another dealer.

There's gotta be a reason why people selling and buying are anal and lets say the '09s don't work with the '10s

DEpointfive0 01-05-2013 09:56 AM

And if we believe it will work across years...
Go to Costco or something and see if they can reprogram them for free

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 2095351)
Not true. The TPMS sensors are registered with the BCM (body control module) for every car. That way you do not pick-up sensor signals from other vehicles driving near you and why your car does not recognize the new sensors. I am surprised the dealer did not know this. The dealer should just be able to reflash the BCM and have it register the new TPMS signals. There is no need to remount tires, etc. They have to do this whenever a sensor goes bad or you replace a sensor for whatever reason.

I would either ask the dealer again or find another dealer.

That's what I am thinking... He was doing the recalibration on the sensors wrong somehow. He's supposed to check and let me know. I'll keep everyone posted with what happens.

Thanks for the input.... :tiphat:

Hermitns 01-05-2013 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 2095332)
Here's an additional fact I just thought of...

It was the Dealer's handheld computer that kept stating Wrong TPMS sensor... not necessarily that my Z would not accept the new TPMS sensors... He would put the computer at the TPMS sensor on any of the four tires, press to read the sensor, and it would ring back the "Incorrect TPMS" code. On the handheld computer, there was only one option for the 370Z and it read "370Z 2009+". So, there weren't any difference in model years to choose from on the Dealers computer....

Something's fishy in Denmark....

If you're not in a hurry, I am getting a full setup (tires/wheels/new tpms) installed monday (keeping the stockers for any unforseen problems....flats, rim damage, maybe track specific rubber). Tire guy explained the process to me but it was vague. Says he's one of the few in north Tamps with the CORRECT programmer. I'll ask as many questions as I can and will get back to you.

PaulZ370 01-05-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermitns (Post 2095387)
If you're not in a hurry, I am getting a full setup (tires/wheels/new tpms) installed monday (keeping the stockers for any unforseen problems....flats, rim damage, maybe track specific rubber). Tire guy explained the process to me but it was vague. Says he's one of the few in north Tamps with the CORRECT programmer. I'll ask as many questions as I can and will get back to you.

10-4... sounds like a plan. Thanks!

gurneyeagle 01-05-2013 10:53 AM

I feel your pain Paul.

2012 TPMS should work on a 2011 Z. Nissan changed the sensor mid-2010, so when I got my Nismo rims off of a 2009 Z, the TPMS did not register. I had to purchase a set off the forum.

Good luck! :tup:


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