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gaveup 08-13-2012 10:30 AM

19x9.5 +22 too much for the front?
 
Currently looking at picking up some new wheels, but I am scared this offset (only one offered) might poke too much in the front without camber added at stock height. I may lower it a while from now, but it's not

I have stock base wheels on the car right now with a 20mm spacer and it fits pretty nicely.

Stock:
18x8 +43
Current:
18x8 +23

According to an offset calculator the 9.5 +22 will "EXTEND an extra 20mm"

That's a pretty decent extension I think.

I've seen one car with these wheels, but it is lowered so it kind of can be misleading.

Anyone have any insight?

Red__Zed 08-13-2012 10:33 AM

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...1/DSC_1868.jpg

Will fit great

gaveup 08-13-2012 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1865925)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...1/DSC_1868.jpg

Will fit great



If you have a 20mm spacer on stockers, you should be in about the same place

Not according to the offset calculator.

with a 20mm spacer it moves my stock offset from 18x8 +43 to 18x8+23. The calc states the 19x9.5 +22 will extend 20mm MORE than what I currently have (or 40mm more than stock)

Ni55anPat 08-13-2012 11:53 AM

im running +5 with a 245/35 19x9

Also ran +12 ..19x9.5 with a 255/35

Osiris 08-13-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1865951)
Not according to the offset calculator.

with a 20mm spacer it moves my stock offset from 18x8 +43 to 18x8+23. The calc states the 19x9.5 +22 will extend 20mm MORE than what I currently have (or 40mm more than stock)

You need to REMOVE your 20mm spacer if you're buying a 19x9.5 +22 wheel.

HKYStormFront 08-13-2012 01:06 PM

they will stick out just a little bit but not bad. chris had that setup on his CE28's and they looked fine. if you run +22 on a 10.5" wide on the rear you will need a small spacer to match the look in the back, otherwise they will be tucked in a little bit compared to the front

daisuke149 08-13-2012 01:08 PM

you can run a 265 tire on the +22 front and be fine. I ran a 275 on a +27 offset in the front which would be the same as a 265 on yours.

Never rubbed or anything

gaveup 08-13-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866186)
You need to REMOVE your 20mm spacer if you're buying a 19x9.5 +22 wheel.

lol obviously :)

That wouldn't change the fact it is saying it will stick out 20mm more than where I am at now

Osiris 08-13-2012 04:09 PM

you should be fine...here's mine for example:

19 9.5 +22 Front
19 10.5 +12 Rear
No Spacers

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...10122-0900.jpg

enkei2k 08-13-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866186)
You need to REMOVE your 20mm spacer if you're buying a 19x9.5 +22 wheel.

You don't have to remove the spacer lol. You can keep it there, but it'll just stick out unless you pull fenders/go widebody/massive camber :shakes head:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866526)
you should be fine...here's mine for example:

19 9.5 +22 Front
19 10.5 +12 Rear
No Spacers

:iagree: I always thought those were the perfect specs for stock body Z33/Z34. Definitely can't go wrong with those sizes.

Osiris 08-13-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 1866536)
You don't have to remove the spacer lol. You can keep it there, but it'll just stick out unless you pull fenders/go widebody/massive camber :shakes head:

Yea, i guess if you like hella flush :ugh2: Never thought that stretched tires or fender rubbing looked remotely good on the Z.

otacon88 08-13-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1865925)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...1/DSC_1868.jpg

Will fit great



If you have a 20mm spacer on stockers, you should be in about the same place

is that the SSR Type F?? I'm having the hardest deciding if I want +22 or +30 offset in the front for the 19x9.5's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866548)
Yea, i guess if you like hella flush :ugh2: Never thought that stretched tires or fender rubbing looked remotely good on the Z.

how much poke do you have with yours?

Osiris 08-13-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otacon88 (Post 1866595)

how much poke do you have with yours?

Poke? Can you elaborate?

XwChriswX 08-13-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1866193)
they will stick out just a little bit but not bad. chris had that setup on his CE28's and they looked fine. if you run +22 on a 10.5" wide on the rear you will need a small spacer to match the look in the back, otherwise they will be tucked in a little bit compared to the front

Yeah, I have 19x9.5 front, +22 offset, and 19x10.5 rear, +22 offset and a 5mm spacer (looking to get a 10mm right now) and they look flush. Running a 255/295 tire setup right now. Looking to do a 265 up front next set.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1866200)
you can run a 265 tire on the +22 front and be fine. I ran a 275 on a +27 offset in the front which would be the same as a 265 on yours.

Never rubbed or anything

Awesome, glad to hear this. :tup: Then 265 it is!

Red__Zed 08-13-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otacon88 (Post 1866595)
is that the SSR Type F?? I'm having the hardest deciding if I want +22 or +30 offset in the front for the 19x9.5's.

Yes, and I think the +22 is perfect.

JollyGoodChap 08-13-2012 07:05 PM

9.5 +22 for the front should be fine.

XwChriswX 08-13-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866526)
you should be fine...here's mine for example:

19 9.5 +22 Front
19 10.5 +12 Rear
No Spacers

Looks great! :tup: Black on black :yum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 1866536)
:iagree: I always thought those were the perfect specs for stock body Z33/Z34. Definitely can't go wrong with those sizes.

:iagree: :tup:

otacon88 08-13-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866604)
Poke? Can you elaborate?

How much does it stick out? Is flush the right terminology?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1866837)
Yes, and I think the +22 is perfect.

+22 it is after your pic! Also was debating between silver and black, but I may just well go with the black since I have a red just like yours :)

do you have any significant flush? Can't tell from the pic since it's from an angle and not straight on.

Osiris 08-13-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otacon88 (Post 1866867)
How much does it stick out? Is flush the right terminology?

It is flush with the top apex of the fender...i could take pics straight on at ground level that may show a better angle...but i'll have to get those tomorrow if you really want those.

Zoren 370 08-13-2012 08:19 PM

Osiris,

The RE11's are Bridgestone Tires right?
What specs are those? Width and sidewall size?

Osiris 08-13-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1866911)
Osiris,

The RE11's are Bridgestone Tires right?
What specs are those? Width and sidewall size?

Yes, Bridgestone

265/35/19 Front
305/30/19 Rear

I also have a friend that is running RE11's with this setup:

285/35/19
305/30/19

Says the wider front wheels works great for autocross. Noticable difference over the 265's.

XwChriswX 08-13-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866991)
Yes, Bridgestone

265/35/19 Front
305/30/19 Rear

I also have a friend that is running RE11's with this setup:

285/35/19
305/30/19

Says the wider front wheels works great for autocross. Noticable difference over the 265's.

So you're running a +22 265 up front, no rubbing whatsoever?

This is what size I wanna go to, I have a 255 there now.

Any over/under-steer noticed?

Osiris 08-13-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1866999)
So you're running a +22 265 up front, no rubbing whatsoever?

This is what size I wanna go to, I have a 255 there now.

Any over/under-steer noticed?

No rubbing at all, and i have a 1" drop in the front. But keep in mind the 265 is on a 9.5" wheel vs the 9" stock front. No over/under steer that i've noticed.

otacon88 08-13-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866884)
It is flush with the top apex of the fender...i could take pics straight on at ground level that may show a better angle...but i'll have to get those tomorrow if you really want those.

It's flush, but it's not hella flush right? lol. I just don't want it poking out from outside of the fender. As long as it's in parallel with it then that's ok

Osiris 08-13-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otacon88 (Post 1867015)
It's flush, but it's not hella flush right? lol. I just don't want it poking out from outside of the fender. As long as it's in parallel with it then that's ok

I hate hella flush, so it's a respectable flush, if you go to cars n cafe on the 25th in Orlando, you can see it.

XwChriswX 08-13-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1867007)
No rubbing at all, and i have a 1" drop in the front. But keep in mind the 265 is on a 9.5" wheel vs the 9" stock front. No over/under steer that i've noticed.

Same drop here. :tup: Looking forward to getting this setup now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1867018)
I hate hella flush, so it's a respectable flush, if you go to cars n cafe on the 25th in Orlando, you can see it.

:iagree: Hella flush is ridiculous.

Zoren 370 08-14-2012 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1866991)
Yes, Bridgestone

265/35/19 Front
305/30/19 Rear

I also have a friend that is running RE11's with this setup:

285/35/19
305/30/19

Says the wider front wheels works great for autocross. Noticable difference over the 265's.

Yup one forum member also suggested that to have a better balance of the car it should have a 20 difference staggered front vs rear.

Whats your camber number on your rear?

Osiris 08-14-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1868336)

Whats your camber number on your rear?

just so happens that i got an alignment recently! Rear camber is -2.6/-2.5 left/right

A camber kit would bring it into specs, but i've had it like this over 10k miles and haven't had an issue with excessive wear.

Zoren 370 08-14-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1868351)
just so happens that i got an alignment recently! Rear camber is -2.6/-2.5 left/right

A camber kit would bring it into specs, but i've had it like this over 10k miles and haven't had an issue with excessive wear.


Wow thats great mine is at -2.0 on both rears. I thought this was already to much of a camber for excessive wear. I do have camber kits.
But at -2.6 and not much wear with the RE11's??? Amazing!
I guess Im safe then with the -2.0:tup:
BTW my set up is 255/305 V12

XwChriswX 08-14-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1868417)
Wow thats great mine is at -2.0 on both rears. I thought this was already to much of a camber for excessive wear. I do have camber kits.
But at -2.6 and not much wear with the RE11's??? Amazing!
I guess Im safe then with the -2.0:tup:
BTW my set up is 255/305 V12

I'm getting pissed cause every time I go for an alignment the shop either 'doesn't have the specs for a 370Z' or just gives me the alignment for a 350Z. It's annoying, so I have no idea what mine are at.

I'm running a 295 in the back and I have camber arms, but I don't know what the stock specs for this mod should be. :confused:

mdxj 08-14-2012 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1867007)
No rubbing at all, and i have a 1" drop in the front. But keep in mind the 265 is on a 9.5" wheel vs the 9" stock front. No over/under steer that i've noticed.

Do you think a 275 will rub or stick out too far? I just ordered the exact same wheels and offset for the front and was debating going with a 275. I am stock height.

SPOHN 08-14-2012 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdxj (Post 1868439)
Do you think a 275 will rub or stick out too far? I just ordered the exact same wheels and offset for the front and was debating going with a 275. I am stock height.

Definitly not. But the car will look like a 4x4 if not lowered some.

mdxj 08-14-2012 09:39 PM

Does looking like a 4x4 mean sticking out or really large gaps between the tire and fender? When i think 4x4, i think of my jeep where the tires are sticking out about 6" from my fenders!

Osiris 08-14-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdxj (Post 1868439)
Do you think a 275 will rub or stick out too far? I just ordered the exact same wheels and offset for the front and was debating going with a 275. I am stock height.

A friend of mine that has a Nismo is running RE11's on the stock Nismo rims with 285's in the front! He told me it was a noticable difference from 265's for traction at the autocross. He does autocross a lot. But as far as sticking out too far, no, they don't. But as far as looking like a 4x4, lowering would be recommended! The Swift springs is what i'd recommend for a conservative drop; that is what i used.

mdxj 08-14-2012 11:22 PM

Is the 4x4 look due to the gap in the fender, that's one phrase I never understood? I want swifts but I'm holding out for a little.

XwChriswX 08-14-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdxj (Post 1869191)
Is the 4x4 look due to the gap in the fender, that's one phrase I never understood? I want swifts but I'm holding out for a little.

Yeah, tire to fender gap, not tires outside the bodyline difference.

mdxj 08-14-2012 11:28 PM

Good to know!

XwChriswX 08-14-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdxj (Post 1869210)
Good to know!

:tiphat:

Osiris 08-14-2012 11:49 PM

Yea, you can have the nicest, most expensive rims out there, but wheel gap will just ruin the entire look of the car/wheel dynamic.

XwChriswX 08-14-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris (Post 1869242)
Yea, you can have the nicest, most expensive rims out there, but wheel gap will just ruin the entire look of the car/wheel dynamic.

:iagree:

And also conversely, have the best drop/ride height in the world, and ruin it by hella-flush retardedness. :bowrofl:


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