Why do so many get lesser tires for the Z?

WhiskeyHotel · 09-06-2011, 12:24 PM

I approach this as an engineering/economics problem (I r 1). I also believe the tire tests (when done properly) and try not to let my preconceived notions get in the way. I read personal reviews, but take them with a grain of salt.

Some of the variables we consider are price, performance(grip - dry and wet), durability, summer/all-season, noise level, and ride quality. So, when you say "lesser tire", what exactly do you mean? Cheaper? Less grip? Best or worst wear?

With so many variables and humans being humans, it's no wonder we choose different tires. Are they "lesser"? No, they're just judged on differnet criteria.

By the by, I'd bet money that Nissan chose the tires they did based heavily on what kind of deal they could get from the tire manufacturers - sometimes the bean-counters win.

Methodical4u · 09-06-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyHotel

I approach this as an engineering/economics problem (I r 1). I also believe the tire tests (when done properly) and try not to let my preconceived notions get in the way. I read personal reviews, but take them with a grain of salt.

Some of the variables we consider are price, performance(grip - dry and wet), durability, summer/all-season, noise level, and ride quality. So, when you say "lesser tire", what exactly do you mean? Cheaper? Less grip? Best or worst wear?

With so many variables and humans being humans, it's no wonder we choose different tires. Are they "lesser"? No, they're just judged on differnet criteria.

By the by, I'd bet money that Nissan chose the tires they did based heavily on what kind of deal they could get from the tire manufacturers - sometimes the bean-counters win.

Lesser tire in the sense that the grip is not as good, and as stated already, the sidewall stiffness. In wet conditions, the OE tires would likely be considered "lesser".

cossie1600 · 09-06-2011, 12:31 PM

A longer lasting tire would be nice, but you give up grip for tire life.

ohno · 09-06-2011, 12:38 PM

I have the v12's and love them. Good overall tire, quiet, rides smooth. For the price you cant beat it.

phelan · 09-06-2011, 02:15 PM

Continental DW is going onto Rin next

As a spoiled Californian, I wouldn't be caught dead with my Z in the snow haha

Methodical4u · 09-06-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

Continental DW is going onto Rin next

As a spoiled Californian, I wouldn't be caught dead with my Z in the snow haha

yeah, as I said... i've had a lot of experience with the Conti's... the DWS's and they are a VERY impressive tire. I replaced my OE Advan's on my Evo with them and while I felt the softer sidewall... they still did handle EXTREMELY well for a 520 rated... 50,000 mile tire. In the snow with the AWD and these tires? LOTS of fun

kenchan · 09-06-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

yeah, as I said... i've had a lot of experience with the Conti's... the DWS's and they are a VERY impressive tire. I replaced my OE Advan's on my Evo with them and while I felt the softer sidewall... they still did handle EXTREMELY well for a 520 rated... 50,000 mile tire. In the snow with the AWD and these tires? LOTS of fun

yah, the initial mush feeling i got going from RE050A to the DW's on the Z was a little werd at first but after i got use to the feel it's actually not bad at all. tires grip very well in tight turns too. i give the DW's

kenchan · 09-06-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

Continental DW is going onto Rin next

As a spoiled Californian, I wouldn't be caught dead with my Z in the snow haha

wat the... you're suppose to be JDM. you must run S04's next (that's wat i run on my G35C).

i will run pilot supersports next on my Z.

09-06-2011, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3407	Continental DW is going onto Rin next As a spoiled Californian, I wouldn't be caught dead with my Z in the snow haha __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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09-06-2011, 12:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
WhiskeyHotel Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 530 Drives: 2015 GT-R PW Premium Rep Power: 17	I approach this as an engineering/economics problem (I r 1). I also believe the tire tests (when done properly) and try not to let my preconceived notions get in the way. I read personal reviews, but take them with a grain of salt. Some of the variables we consider are price, performance(grip - dry and wet), durability, summer/all-season, noise level, and ride quality. So, when you say "lesser tire", what exactly do you mean? Cheaper? Less grip? Best or worst wear? With so many variables and humans being humans, it's no wonder we choose different tires. Are they "lesser"? No, they're just judged on differnet criteria. By the by, I'd bet money that Nissan chose the tires they did based heavily on what kind of deal they could get from the tire manufacturers - sometimes the bean-counters win.

09-06-2011, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	A longer lasting tire would be nice, but you give up grip for tire life.

09-06-2011, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
ohno Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: IL Posts: 169 Drives: 2010 PW 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	I have the v12's and love them. Good overall tire, quiet, rides smooth. For the price you cant beat it.