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bullitt5897 08-08-2012 06:06 PM

What do you want to run for Tires? How big of a lip do you want?

Perchi 08-09-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1859699)
What do you want to run for Tires? How big of a lip do you want?

car for regular driving. lip of the maximum possible for the rear wheels.(sorry dont know in cm or inch=( )
& Im still thinking about rolling the arches, but not sure what will happen because of the plastic bumpers on the arches... or maybe ill need to order rear overfenders?

here is wheels that i want & i want to look as close as possible like this wheels, but tires & drop want to looks like on photo before....
http://vk.com/away.php?to=http%3A%2F...oncave_bth.jpg

Thank you for your feedback :tiphat:

Scottish Jay 08-10-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1475666)
thats a standard fitment :tup: you will be fine!

most are running 255/305 tire sizes.


After some serious help guys. I have just bought some Volk GTS alloys 9.5 + 10.5 and they are +17 front and +18 rear. However the front wheels is not clearing the caliper. I thought that +17 on the front would have been fine?
Any info would be great.

Cheers

Jay

bullitt5897 08-10-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Jay (Post 1862151)
After some serious help guys. I have just bought some Volk GTS alloys 9.5 + 10.5 and they are +17 front and +18 rear. However the front wheels is not clearing the caliper. I thought that +17 on the front would have been fine?
Any info would be great.

Cheers

Jay

Jay,

The pad height of your wheels is too low. How much clearance do you need? 2mm, 3mm, 5mm? If that is the case get a spacer to clear your caliper.

Mike

bullitt5897 08-10-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Perchi (Post 1860113)
car for regular driving. lip of the maximum possible for the rear wheels.(sorry dont know in cm or inch=( )
& Im still thinking about rolling the arches, but not sure what will happen because of the plastic bumpers on the arches... or maybe ill need to order rear overfenders?

here is wheels that i want & i want to look as close as possible like this wheels, but tires & drop want to looks like on photo before....
http://vk.com/away.php?to=http%3A%2F...oncave_bth.jpg

Thank you for your feedback :tiphat:

I have seen those wheels and they look good! I would recommend an over fender if your looking for the big lip like the porsche. From my understanding those wheels have a low pad height which will have a hard time clearing the calipers already... Do you have any more info on the wheels? you may need to talk to the manufacturer directly to get the correct fitment. Since they are going to have a weird pad height I dont think I am going to be able to tell you definitively what offset to run.

I will say most guys running the big lips are running 12 +0 or lower in the rear on 305's.

The fronts you can get away with 10" wheels

Scottish Jay 08-10-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1862280)
Jay,

The pad height of your wheels is too low. How much clearance do you need? 2mm, 3mm, 5mm? If that is the case get a spacer to clear your caliper.

Mike


Hey Bullitt, sorry what do you mean by Pad height? I reckon it would need 3 or 5mm to clear properly at the front. The rear alloys seem fine... although I am now worries when I put the tyres on... it may rub etc?

rAiN 08-10-2012 10:31 PM

would this fit ?


Front 20x11 +4
235/35
Rear 20x11.5 +4
245/35

otacon88 08-12-2012 11:17 PM

Currently have the OEM 18 inch wheels. If I wanted to upgrade to the 19 inch sport RAYS, would they have the same offsets as the 18 inch OEMs, the 19 inch rays, or would the offsets be somewhere in between?

bullitt5897 08-13-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rAiN (Post 1863489)
would this fit ?


Front 20x11 +4
235/35
Rear 20x11.5 +4
245/35

The rears yes even with 305's The fronts most likely no and you would be hard pressed to stretch that much on a 11"...

bullitt5897 08-13-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Jay (Post 1862304)
Hey Bullitt, sorry what do you mean by Pad height? I reckon it would need 3 or 5mm to clear properly at the front. The rear alloys seem fine... although I am now worries when I put the tyres on... it may rub etc?

Pad height is the part of the wheel face behind the face of the wheel. This is the area in which the lugs attach the wheel to the hub. The height refers to the distance from the hub to the back of the wheel face. In order to build the wheel to clear the calipers you must adjust the pad height. This is why when you look at the japanese manufacturers they have faces labeled (O,J,A,B, and etc...) each of these faces has a different pad height and their purpose was to clear different brake sizes.

Mike

bullitt5897 08-13-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by otacon88 (Post 1865486)
Currently have the OEM 18 inch wheels. If I wanted to upgrade to the 19 inch sport RAYS, would they have the same offsets as the 18 inch OEMs, the 19 inch rays, or would the offsets be somewhere in between?

the 19's have a more aggressive offset and you shouldnt worry about the offsets as they will fit no problem as they are an OEM part.

Mike

Scottish Jay 08-13-2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports (Post 1866126)
Pad height is the part of the wheel face behind the face of the wheel. This is the area in which the lugs attach the wheel to the hub. The height refers to the distance from the hub to the back of the wheel face. In order to build the wheel to clear the calipers you must adjust the pad height. This is why when you look at the japanese manufacturers they have faces labeled (O,J,A,B, and etc...) each of these faces has a different pad height and their purpose was to clear different brake sizes.

Mike

Thanks for your help mike, it is much appreciated. I tried a 5mm spacer on the front today and it is still hitting the front brake calliper but only just. I can get hold of a 15mm spacer for the front but that makes me worry as surely that would cause some serious rubbing since the fronts are already a +17? I may just have to sell the wheels :(

w0rM 08-13-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Jay (Post 1866741)
Thanks for your help mike, it is much appreciated. I tried a 5mm spacer on the front today and it is still hitting the front brake calliper but only just. I can get hold of a 15mm spacer for the front but that makes me worry as surely that would cause some serious rubbing since the fronts are already a +17? I may just have to sell the wheels :(

Yeah, there's no way you're going to able to run +2 on the fronts without either some major camber or looking like a giant roller skate.

Perchi 08-21-2012 10:15 AM

I decided to order Rotiform BTH in black matte

for front 20x10 +20 offset on 235/35 tire
for rear 20x12 +0 offset on 275/30 tire

is it ok? especially for front sport brake support +20 offset is ok? will brake support fit this? or better get +30 offset for front?

thanks!

karotZ 08-25-2012 02:44 AM

Hey guys,

I already have a good, firm grip on how offsets work, and that 19x9.5+22 and 19x10.5+12 is the typical setup. Can you guys give opinions if a 19x9.5+12 and 19x10.5+18 work? It's just mind boggling that I think that the front will stick out further than the rear or what??? Or like the front is way aggressive than the rear. Any help is appreciated.

The wheels with those offsets just mentioned are MS3s.

daisuke149 08-25-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Perchi (Post 1879455)
I decided to order Rotiform BTH in black matte

for front 20x10 +20 offset on 235/35 tire
for rear 20x12 +0 offset on 275/30 tire

is it ok? especially for front sport brake support +20 offset is ok? will brake support fit this? or better get +30 offset for front?

thanks!

Along with offset, the design of the wheel determines whether it will clear the brakes. So just by offset alone no one can tell you.

Also, why would you get such a wide wheel and such a skinny tire.. might as well stick with the stock width's... wastin all that space.

Starbux 08-25-2012 11:29 AM

BBS LM Replica
19x8.5" +15
19x9.5" +15
5x114.3
Gunmetal + Stepped Lip

Will it fit nicely?

Perchi 08-27-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1885992)
Also, why would you get such a wide wheel and such a skinny tire.. might as well stick with the stock width's... wastin all that space.

its because i want stretch & hellaflush)

Robert_K 08-27-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Perchi (Post 1888208)
its because i want stretch & hellaflush)

:shakes head:

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bullitt5897 08-27-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Starbux (Post 1886164)
BBS LM Replica
19x8.5" +15
19x9.5" +15
5x114.3
Gunmetal + Stepped Lip

Will it fit nicely?

no widths are too narrow. You will sit worse than stock.

Perchi 08-29-2012 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert_K (Post 1888216)

thanks, it helped! Very informative objective response

:shakes head:

YoungZ 09-23-2012 02:47 AM

I'm Looking at Weds SA55M 19x9.5 +24 Front and 10.5 +15 Rear. For tires Continental DWS (get a few days of snow and a ton of Rain, Vancouver Island) 275/35/19 Front 26.6" 285/35/19 Rear 26.7". i am sitting on Koni yellows and swift Spec R springs drop is about 1.4" will i need to roll the front fenders? and will i be able to get away with factory camber? for the rears (1.1" drop) i think I'm safe from reading this thread Correct?

rAiN 10-15-2012 05:23 PM

what about
19x10 fronts offset - 12
19x11.5 rears offset -12

225-35-19 fronts
265-30-19 rears

redline727 10-29-2012 08:02 PM

I'm looking at 20x8.5 +20 255/35/20 front and 20x10 +20 285/30/20 rear
How will this look? I'm at stock height and have a sports package.

raymondo510 11-03-2012 01:49 AM

Sooooo im prolly gonna get crap for this, but I dont know diddly squat about offsets, so can someone please share some knowledge or point me in the right direction.

vrfreak 11-12-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rAiN (Post 1963234)
what about
19x10 fronts offset - 12
19x11.5 rears offset -12

225-35-19 fronts
265-30-19 rears

pretty sure there is no way (w/o some serious work)that those will fit
but i might b wrong :ugh2:

SS_Firehawk 12-12-2012 09:00 AM

So I'm looking at some Work Wheels.

19x11 +18 rear should be good to go
19x9.5 +15 front is good to go

I am wondering if 19x10.5 +22 will work with the fronts? Calculator is telling me it's 20mm wider inside and 6mm wider outside when comparing them to 19x9.5 +15. If it doesn't, I'm sure 9.5 is enough rubber.

Here are pictures of what I'm looking at, they are running the 19x9.5 +15 up front in the picture. I want the GTS color...

Work Wheels :: News :: NEW 19 INCH EMOTION CR ULTIMATE!

SS_Firehawk 12-15-2012 04:56 AM

While I'm waiting, are there any pics of guys running 18"s on a lowered vehicle? I guess I'm picky on the tire to rim ratio and wheel gap. 19's look perfect, just wondering if 18's can look just as good with a bit more meat on the tire

03Z33 12-15-2012 08:03 AM

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18's can look good even with just springs. FlawlessZ's car is a perfect example. He's running what I consider to be almost perfect fit for aggressive look with the only compromise being the tire sizes because Hankook only offer the R-S3 in slightly shorter sizes.

18x10 +13 w/245-40-18 R-S3 front
18x12 +20 w/285-35-18 R-S3 rear

Lowered 1.5" all around on springs

I'd stay away from the 10.5 front, maybe a 10 if they offer it?

SS_Firehawk 12-15-2012 08:57 AM

They offer 9.5's, but then it just jumps to 10.5. They make the 18's in a 10.5 for all 4's and different offsets, and advertised them on this forum for the Z, that's what peaked my interest.

the 19x10.5" is 20mm deeper toward the wheel well and 6mm farther out in comparison to the 9.5's, and the 9.5"s looked pretty flush to the fenders without much camber ( I don't like a lot of camber).

NOFATCHX 12-20-2012 01:35 AM

My CV3s are 20x10.5 with +15 on rear.

I'm running a 10mm spacer now so that's equiv to +5 offset correct?

Wheel is flush but still have plenty of space between tire and fender (on a 285 tire).

Can I bump up to a 20mm spacer? Would this put me at -5? Would this wheel/tire fit still or will I hit fender? I am dropped about 1.75 on H&R springs

03Z33 12-20-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NOFATCHX (Post 2068992)
My CV3s are 20x10.5 with +15 on rear.

I'm running a 10mm spacer now so that's equiv to +5 offset correct?

Correct

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOFATCHX (Post 2068992)
Wheel is flush but still have plenty of space between tire and fender (on a 285 tire).

Can I bump up to a 20mm spacer?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOFATCHX (Post 2068992)
Would this put me at -5?

Yes
Quote:

Originally Posted by NOFATCHX (Post 2068992)
Would this wheel/tire fit still or will I hit fender? I am dropped about 1.75 on H&R springs

You will be close to the fender because of your tire size, a 15mm spacer would be safer, it would put you at a +0 offset and you can adjust the remaining gap when you get an alignment by taking out some negative camber.

NOFATCHX 12-20-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33 (Post 2069268)
Correct



Yes



Yes


You will be close to the fender because of your tire size, a 15mm spacer would be safer, it would put you at a +0 offset and you can adjust the remaining gap when you get an alignment by taking out some negative camber.

Thanks for the confirmation, only problem is I have no room for adjust according to Nissan. I need to upgrade to adjustable camber arms.

NOFATCHX 12-20-2012 09:42 AM

Next question is the front. It's currently at +20 offset def has room to work with, what size spacer can I get away with running a 20x9 +20 offset with a 255 tire? I'm thinkin a 10mm but it does look like it'd be close

03Z33 12-20-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NOFATCHX (Post 2069278)
Next question is the front. It's currently at +20 offset def has room to work with, what size spacer can I get away with running a 20x9 +20 offset with a 255 tire? I'm thinkin a 10mm but it does look like it'd be close

15mm would get you flush, 20mm for a little poke but your tire may be too wide for that. 10mm would look ok but the wheel/tire will still be sunken in a bit.

NOFATCHX 12-20-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33 (Post 2069316)
15mm would get you flush, 20mm for a little poke but your tire may be too wide for that. 10mm would look ok but the wheel/tire will still be sunken in a bit.

Well that's just it, it's sunken in now, not to bad but definitely noticeable to people like us. I thinknim more concerned with tire rubbing or hitting fender and with this tire it looks like it'll be close with 10mm...

03Z33 12-20-2012 02:56 PM

Sounds like you already have some 5mm spacers. I'd pick up just one pair of 10mm spacers first, that way you can test fit front and back. Add the 5mm to the 10mm for 15mm total just for test fit. Don't drive on it like that, it's not safe. Then you'll know if you want to pick up another set of 15's for the front or back.

NOFATCHX 12-20-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Z33 (Post 2069924)
Sounds like you already have some 5mm spacers. I'd pick up just one pair of 10mm spacers first, that way you can test fit front and back. Add the 5mm to the 10mm for 15mm total just for test fit. Don't drive on it like that, it's not safe. Then you'll know if you want to pick up another set of 15's for the front or back.

I have 10mm on rear now, think I can push it further ESP w drop and space between tire and fender.... Think ill goto 15mm to be safe. The fronts have no spacers at moment, was thinkin a subtle 5mm but I'd like to push it to 10mm, I'm anal as fu*k and want to get as close if not a little past the fender line without hitting or damaging fender.

johncy2000 12-26-2012 10:31 PM

Hey guys I went ahead and ordered SSR SP3's in Machine silver with a polished lip. I got 19x9.5 +25 and 19x11 +11. Will I be able to run stock camber with this setup? Im gonna do 275/35/19 and 305/30/19 for tires. Thanks for your time guys!

03Z33 12-27-2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by johncy2000 (Post 2078569)
Hey guys I went ahead and ordered SSR SP3's in Machine silver with a polished lip. I got 19x9.5 +25 and 19x11 +11. Will I be able to run stock camber with this setup? Im gonna do 275/35/19 and 305/30/19 for tires. Thanks for your time guys!

Awesome choice in wheels, and yes you won't have any trouble running stock alignment with this setup as long as you don't go too low. But why the horrible tire sizes? Those won't fit and will look like crap. 245/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear would be optimal, maybe a bit larger at 255/295 but that's it.


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