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I hardly see how I am "bashing" them, I'm only stating the facts and what I know, nothing more or less. Granted I didn't install them myself, but from what I've seen, I don't see how there could of been any sort of "installation error", it seemed pretty straight forward, and I didn't see anything obviously wrong. Also, why else would a spacer have a hubcentric lip (as advertised) if it wasn't meant for hubcentric wheels? |
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Nope, no impacts or anything like that. I think it happened before the car even hit the track. |
Yah, I agree again that the manufacture needs to analyse this and find root cause. The lip should not break off. Completely defeats the purpose and a false sense of security. If this was a bad lot they need to recall and purge their stock, but atleast then they will gain user confidence.
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could you possibly be over tightening your lug nuts causing added stress on the spacers????
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I don't think so, I always tighten to 80 ft-lbs, which is what the manual states.
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Just my luck, my package is stuck in Memphis because of those crazy storms they are having. Had to get them redirected to my work address since I need to be there to sign for them, and I can't work from home again tomorrow. Stupid weather!
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damn that sucks!
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yah, hope you get your new replacements soon! :tup:
and my thoughts to those that were affected by the storm earlier this week. :( |
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the hubcentric lip helps center the wheels for installation and absorb some of the load that would typically be shared with the lug nuts... but if you are strictly hubcentric lugs, most all of that load is on the ring. |
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what do you think they are going to hire a forensics team to look at it and say what the entire world already knows; it couldnt handle the lateral load and it broke. LOL, thats all there is to it. |
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if this was a non-injury or non-life threatening piece of a car like say an emblem, i wouldn't mind as much, but a spacer/stud failure can cause serious accidents especially if one is getting false sense of security while driving. since you don't have basic knowledge of what real manufacturers go through, any top tier manufacturer will have lab equipment in-house to do this analysis... nowhere near involved as what a forensics scientist would go through. LOL they will first look at the angles of the break under a microscope to determine if it was a stress fracture or material fatigue or material contamination. they can also find where the load was on the lip which caused the failure to see if within design. if the material appears pure, they will run spectro-analysis to check the material alloy itself, and determine root cause. there's basically 3 suspects. design, material contamination, wrong material combination used. fix the problem, prevent it from reoccurring, done. if our wheel design is outside the design tolerance due to material, then that needs to be highlighted on the box/instruction manual. the end. hope you enjoyed basic QC 8D Reporting 101. :icon17: :tup: |
If I recall correctly, Captain Obvious does independent contracting on the side. He would be the perfect guy for this job. Could probably prevent this CSI episode with a healthy dose of his common sense. :)
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*sigh* Someone screwed up with forwarding the package to my work address, so the package didn't go out today either. I should get it tomorrow, as long as nothing else goes wrong. I just love paying like $30 extra to get 2 Day shipping and in the end, I won't get it any faster than if I had them shipped ground for free.
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sucks... :( i hate when that happens... and i hate how shops REQUIRE SIGNATURE when shipped even if you ask them not to select that option. :shakes head:
hope you get them tomorrow. :tup: |
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i can tell, you and I would get along great! some day when someone steals the package off your front step and you have to buy another one, you will appreciate the required signature. :) |
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you like charburgers and cheeze fries? :yum: if you say no :gtfo2: :icon17: |
Turns out FedEx's website was wrong, and they did deliver them to my office today... after I had already gone home for the day, doh! Should be able to install them Saturday morning and go out for a quick test drive.
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So whats a better spacer than the H&R?
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RuiZ- ive not had issues with Kics as i posted earlier and the Eibach (with built-in lugs) seems ok as well. |
They are sitting on my desk now. Hopefully these last longer than 6 months.
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Installed the new spacers on Friday. All of the vibrations I was getting previously are gone, so things seem good now. Hopefully these don't break too.
I took a couple of pictures of the broken ones, I'll post them up tomorrow. |
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that's a clean break. i saw something exactly like this before...
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At first it looked so clean that I thought it was cut off, but looking at it closely that definitely wasn't what happened. It obviously broke apart. Cheap German crap! :rofl2:
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yah, im trying to find the thread where someone bought or was going to buy H&R spacers with the lip broken off. it was one of the members here that was asking about if it got the real deal or not or something. looked exactly like yours.
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Yeah, that looks exactly the same, not completely clean cut, a bit jagged, definitely broken off I'd say. So here is that guy's answer. :icon17:
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Hahaha, that's the one! :D
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damn lol the guy who sold them probably didnt even realize... such a clean break he probably looked at them and thought "i coulda swore they had a hubcentric ring, oh well"... meanwhile the broken off part is probably still sitting in his wheels in the garage
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Yeah, I've taken off my wheels twice before this, and I never noticed. I only noticed this time because I removed my spacers to try my track wheels out. I had my rear wheels off too, so I was easily able to compare what they were supposed to look like.
I just feel stupid, since I've been driving around with this awful vibration for like 6 months or something, even got my wheels rebalanced to try to fix it, and it's been the spacers fault. Good news is, this means I'll be sticking with my Hankook's instead of going with the DW's, since my rear's are almost bald and my front's are only at about 5/32". This whole time I was thinking it was the tires to blame. |
Yah, those lips are a critical part for our stock wheels. At least you saved a good chunk of change for tires. :D
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how much do you want for the broken ones?
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$50 shipped? Do you need the replacement bolts too? I have the brand new ones from my replacements.
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