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wh1te370z 04-10-2011 11:01 AM

Spacers on stock rays with 295's
 
Im looking to get some spacers for my car and no one really runs a 295 rear tire. so would 25mm be to much?

COLDSHOT 04-10-2011 03:16 PM

i got 305s rear with 25mm spacers. look good

6MT 04-10-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLDSHOT (Post 1045346)
i got 305s rear with 25mm spacers. look good

:worthless:

wh1te370z 04-11-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1045453)
:worthless:

:iagree::iagree:

COLDSHOT 04-11-2011 02:10 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/colds...4-img-0130.jpg

25mm spacers front and rear with 305s, no rub

leighspped 04-11-2011 02:31 PM

you can fit a 305 on stock rim?

how did you get your rims so dark a like em

ZForce 04-11-2011 02:48 PM

Just what my doctor ordered. Pics of 305's on 25mm Rr spacers. Looks good. What are you running up front (tire size) and are you dropped?

I am looking for some pics of 25mm with wider tires on the sport rims and this fits the bill, if you are dropped. As this would be the last consideration before pulling the trigger on some oversized tires. What is your camber like for the front and rear?

COLDSHOT 04-11-2011 02:53 PM

yea i got 255 front and 305 rear, 1" drop with stock camber

ZForce 04-11-2011 04:10 PM

Sweet, I am thinking 265's up front on 20mm spacers with a 1.2 drop. I wonder if my smaller wheel spacers will make up for the 10mm larger tire versus your 255's and 25mm spacers and hence I come away with no rub. What is your camber looking like?

COLDSHOT 04-11-2011 04:17 PM

should be ok, im running 20x10 with 255 front right now and no rub.

wheee! 04-11-2011 04:23 PM

Your bumper "Amuses" me ...:p

TypeOne 04-11-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1047599)
Your bumper "Amuses" me ...:p


:bowrofl:

I'm about to get me a set of 295s soon.

wheee! 04-11-2011 05:48 PM

Is that the stock exhaust on there still?

COLDSHOT 04-11-2011 05:53 PM

no that berk exhaust

ZForce 04-11-2011 05:58 PM

Is that 255/35/20? So I should be ok with 255/35/19 with no rub.

spearfish25 04-11-2011 09:38 PM

I have 265/35/19 up front, no drop, no rub. Guys have gone as wide as 285 I believe without drop and no rubbing.

cossie1600 04-11-2011 11:53 PM

yup

wh1te370z 04-12-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 1047648)
:bowrofl:

I'm about to get me a set of 295s soon.

your choices are bf goodrich and hoosier lol. i didnt see anything else in this size.

COLDSHOT 04-12-2011 02:43 PM

get 305's man, cheaper and easy to find tire. i got the whole set of v12 tires 255 front and 305 rear for $720 free shipping

COLDSHOT 04-12-2011 02:45 PM

and $60 rebate lol

ZForce 04-12-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1048146)
I have 265/35/19 up front, no drop, no rub. Guys have gone as wide as 285 I believe without drop and no rubbing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1048463)
yup

Thanks guys for the feedback. I am still wanting to hear and see a setup somewhere between 255/35/19 & 265/35/19 with a 1.2" drop on 20 mm
spacers. Rub or no rub.

I think the rears might be fine with 285\35\19 on 25mm spacers with 1.0"drop in the rear.

Oh snap......back to square one on the learning curve...... I just learned that to keep the car from alot of understeer, that I should be looking at similiar ratios to stock. For the RE-11's the ideal combo is 265/305 but what I am hearing is that the 305 is too large for the 19" sport wheel, that is if I don't do anything else. Other tires come in different sizes that will have the right ratios.

This is making my head hurt! I may just go with stock sizes this time around and wait to see how everything looks and fits (tires, drop, spacers) after the Eibach springs are swapped out for Swift. I am keeping my 20mm/25mm spacers.

America's Tire has a tire calculator for checking ratios. Gonna go crunch some numbers.

COLDSHOT 04-12-2011 06:14 PM

dude i have 255/35/19 and 305/30/19 with 25mm spacers all around and 1" drop, no rub and still have room 265's tire front. i mean cmon man this thread doesnt have to go 2 pages

ZForce 04-12-2011 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1047554)
Sweet, I am thinking 265's up front on 20mm spacers with a 1.2 drop. I wonder if my smaller wheel spacers will make up for the 10mm larger tire versus your 255's and 25mm spacers and hence I come away with no rub. What is your camber looking like?

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLDSHOT (Post 1047583)
should be ok, im running 20x10 with 255 front right now and no rub.

20x10....are you running 20" wheels?

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1047822)
Is that 255/35/20? So I should be ok with 255/35/19 with no rub.

Since no reponse on above post, I took it you were not running sport 19" wheels. It's the reason for the lengthy and maybe repetitive questions on the post above.

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Originally Posted by COLDSHOT (Post 1049817)
dude i have 255/35/19 and 305/30/19 with 25mm spacers all around and 1" drop, no rub and still have room 265's tire front. i mean cmon man this thread doesnt have to go 2 pages

Thank you kindly for the clarification and my apologies for my ignorance and taking up space on this thread. You have been patient and I appreciate your input. :tup:

COLDSHOT 04-12-2011 10:03 PM

lol buddy, i was just joking. this is what forum good for right?
sorry i got 19" before, but now i got 20x10 +10 with 255 tires front and 20x12 +0 with 305 tires rear and still no rub.

cossie1600 04-12-2011 11:04 PM

It's not so much the height of the tire, you just don't want to run a wider tire in the back than the front unless your car is naturally not balanced (mid or rear engine cars) or you want to create understeer. Nissan staggered the tires to create understeer so people don't kill themselves, creating more is just as stupid. Drive at your own risk

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1049807)
Thanks guys for the feedback. I am still wanting to hear and see a setup somewhere between 255/35/19 & 265/35/19 with a 1.2" drop on 20 mm
spacers. Rub or no rub.

I think the rears might be fine with 285\35\19 on 25mm spacers with 1.0"drop in the rear.

Oh snap......back to square one on the learning curve...... I just learned that to keep the car from alot of understeer, that I should be looking at similiar ratios to stock. For the RE-11's the ideal combo is 265/305 but what I am hearing is that the 305 is too large for the 19" sport wheel, that is if I don't do anything else. Other tires come in different sizes that will have the right ratios.

This is making my head hurt! I may just go with stock sizes this time around and wait to see how everything looks and fits (tires, drop, spacers) after the Eibach springs are swapped out for Swift. I am keeping my 20mm/25mm spacers.

America's Tire has a tire calculator for checking ratios. Gonna go crunch some numbers.


ZForce 04-12-2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLDSHOT (Post 1050355)
lol buddy, i was just joking. this is what forum good for right?
sorry i got 19" before, but now i got 20x10 +10 with 255 tires front and 20x12 +0 with 305 tires rear and still no rub.

Good to hear, I tend to ask the same questions over and over but in a different way each time. And thought this was one of times I went overboard. Agreed, a forum is to discuss and discover answers to our questions.

Thanks for clearing the air on your tire and wheel combo set up. Good to know that even with 19" sport wheels that you did not rub. :tiphat:

ZForce 04-12-2011 11:55 PM

35/19
Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1050558)
It's not so much the height of the tire, you just don't want to run a wider tire in the back than the front unless your car is naturally not balanced (mid or rear engine cars) or you want to create understeer. Nissan staggered the tires to create understeer so people don't kill themselves, creating more is just as stupid. Drive at your own risk

Thanks for this excellant information on tires. I want to stay within proper tire setup range and not create another problem in handeling. In your opinion and reading about my setup and what I have to work with without having to add another part or spend more $$ what is opinion on the proper tire sizes I should be looking at? Am I looking to try and keep the staggered width of front and rear to be similiar to stock ?

For example if the difference in width on stock from front to rear is a difference of 1.18" then I should look for tires with the same difference or as close the 1.18" difference to keep understeer within the stock range?


From America's Tire (Tire Calculator)

Tire Dimensions Made Simple - Discount Tire

EDITED: COLDSHOT corrected me on the stock Fr tire size.

I plugged in both front and rear
245/40/19 FR
275/35/19 Rr

The difference in "section width is 1.18

Am I on the right track here?

COLDSHOT 04-13-2011 12:14 AM

wrong, stock tires should be
245/40/19 FR
275/35/19 Rr or 285/35/19 same as nismo stock tires size

ZForce 04-13-2011 12:23 AM

Corrected original post, thanks COLDSHOT.

ZForce 04-13-2011 12:33 AM

So crunching some tire sizes on America's Tire Calculator it came up with a difference in "Section Width" for:

245/40/19 & 275/35/19 = Section Width difference of 1.18
245/40/19 & 285/35/19 = 1.57
255/35/19 & 285/35/19 = 1.18
255/35/19 & 305/30/19 = 1.97
265/35/19 & 305/30/19 = 1.58

Is this about right as to what I should be looking for? Meaning the 1.18 tires would be similiar to stock and stock understeer and anything higher would create more understeer.

atx370z 04-13-2011 01:16 AM

25mm spacer in the rear with 305's will have your tire sticking out about 1/2" past the side of the car. I have 305's in the rear with 20mm spacers and they stick out a little past the fender. I'm most likely going to a 15mm spacer in the rear.

ZForce 04-13-2011 01:29 AM

Thanks for the info, do you have any photos with your 305's and 20mm spacer?

flashburn 04-13-2011 07:29 AM

Yeah, I'd like to see a picture of that too. I'm thinking about either getting 285's again, or upping to 305.

ZForce 04-13-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1050824)
Yeah, I'd like to see a picture of that too. I'm thinking about either getting 285's again, or upping to 305.


Hows the drive and response of the 285's in the rear? Also, what size were you running on the fronts with that size? I'm curious because I was deciding to go with 285's or maybe even wider...

flashburn 04-14-2011 05:38 AM

It seems good, I don't have any complaints. I'm not sure about running 305 on the stock wheel, I have safety concerns with that, same with running anything higher than 265 on the fronts. I'm running 255 on the front right now. I'm going to move up to 265.

wh1te370z 04-14-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLDSHOT (Post 1049511)
get 305's man, cheaper and easy to find tire. i got the whole set of v12 tires 255 front and 305 rear for $720 free shipping

How do you like your V12's? I got the bfgoodrichs bc im bring my car to some tracks this summer and heard they have a lot of tire roll.

cossie1600 04-14-2011 11:55 AM

i am sorry, but all the fuss about tire size when you can get a grippy tire in 245 and be able do go faster

atx370z 04-14-2011 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1050711)
Thanks for the info, do you have any photos with your 305's and 20mm spacer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1050824)
Yeah, I'd like to see a picture of that too. I'm thinking about either getting 285's again, or upping to 305.

For some reason the drivers side sticks out a little more than the passenger side. Camber is dead on... just had alignment done.

This is 305's with 20mm H&R DRS spacers. Most likely going to go down to a 15mm. I can't imagine 305's with 25mm.... Would look stupid in my opinion.

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http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/3659/img0732u.jpg
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atx370z 04-14-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1053167)
It seems good, I don't have any complaints. I'm not sure about running 305 on the stock wheel, I have safety concerns with that, same with running anything higher than 265 on the fronts. I'm running 255 on the front right now. I'm going to move up to 265.

Stock rays are 10" wheels which are within spec for 305's. No safety issues at all.

atx370z 04-14-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1053641)
i am sorry, but all the fuss about tire size when you can get a grippy tire in 245 and be able do go faster

Seriously?... When's the last time you saw a high horsepower car running around with "grippy" 245's?


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