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m4a1mustang 05-17-2010 02:01 PM

Use a proper wheel sealant to take care of them. :)

mannyz 05-17-2010 02:03 PM

Guys I just got a call from BBB that Nissan accepted they will powder coat my wheels as a goodwill. So lets see what happen. I will keep you post it.

mannyz 05-17-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 540940)
Use a proper wheel sealant to take care of them. :)

I didnt know that existed, can you throw me a PM with brand and product

TipsZ 05-28-2010 02:03 PM

Sorry .. I completely forgot about this thread . .I will try to remember to upload those pics once I get home ..

mannyz 05-28-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TipsZ (Post 554418)
Sorry .. I completely forgot about this thread . .I will try to remember to upload those pics once I get home ..

No problem TipsZ. Right now I am still waiting for Nissan to call me to make an appointment for powder coating. BUt BBB wants me to wait 30 days. :/

kfscoll 05-29-2010 08:34 AM

I hadn't seen your pictures before -- I really don't think you have a problem. IMHO it's highly likely that the cure (the refinish) will be worse than the disease. Here's what mine looked like after using some very mild cleaner wax on them. That top silver layer is THIN -- don't ever use any (even mildly) abrasive cleaner on the RAYS wheels!!

http://home.earthlink.net/~kfscoll/images/Zwheel1.JPG

http://home.earthlink.net/~kfscoll/images/Zwheel2.JPG

370Zsteve 05-29-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TipsZ (Post 540532)
I've seen this same effect on the Infinite rims. It is indeed caused by a type of acidic chemical that Detailers utilize. If used correctly it has no ill effect on the rims, but if left on for more than 20 minutes, or they fail to wipe the area afterwards, the results is that the chemical eats through that painted layer. When I get back home, I will try to remember to locate the pics of the rims that had a similar problem as yours.

That would explain why the OP said that the inside of the wheels had the most damage. +1 rep

VinZ 05-30-2010 02:15 AM

They used wheel acid and either sprayed it on without wetting down the wheels first or left it on to long. I use the same on my sport wheels every week at my detail shop but never have a problem because I rinse them off after less than 1 minute, Thats all it takes with the acid. Have to very careful with that stuff! Your looks like a classic case of wheel acid damage left on to long. I would hit the detail shop up with a bill to repair the damage they did.

BLUESLATE 05-30-2010 02:26 AM

That happens to OE coatings of Nissan wheels. My 07 G35 sedan had exactly the same problem. Claying the crap out of it seemed to help a little, but didn't completely cleaned them off. Also, I think it's the brake dust that gets baked into the wheels that causes this problem.

mannyz 05-30-2010 12:42 PM

I thank you all for your individual inputs. Like I said I am always with the detailing guy when he washed my car and I know and see the process. Now been open to your opinions what I can think is that maybe even that he cleaned it fast maybe the mixture of the product was too strong. I also called a Power Coating Expert and as soon as I explained the situation he mentioned to me something that can also be possible.

He asked me if I ever washed the car in one of those touchless or automatic machines. He told me that some of those places are using such a strong acid that damage the rims, and since the machine is on timing, either sometimes they dont clean right, or as soon you enter the car to those machines they apply the acid first with the rim hot instead of applying water first and cool down the rim. From the whole year that I owned the car I will say I got the car 2 times trough those touchless places, as a fast clean getaway.

1. So I will agree with everyone, if possible that the mixture from my detailing people was wrong (which I doubt since they always wash all my cars trough the years, they are only 2 guys, so is not that a bunch of people working on my car)
2. I am more incline to the touchless machine and their wheel cleaner and that Nissan used a very thin coating, since I've never seen this problem on any of my other cars.

NOTE: Let me tell you guys that the thin layer could be a major factor, because I went to 2 dealers and I found 370z, with different type of wheels, with exactly the same problem. Maybe not as bad as mine cause those cars are parked, but definitively with the same coating discoloration on the edges and hard areas of the wheel. Even one of the managers from the dealer finally agreed with me cause I showed him the cars park at their lot and they help me with Nissan. Thats why they decided to powder coat the wheels what they called "good will"

Up to this point I haven't receive any calls from Nissan.\

THANK YOU ALL. I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED.

mannyz 06-06-2010 02:13 PM

Ok Guys, finally I got a call from Chris at Nissan USA, informing me to take the car to a Longwood Nissan, here in Florida. They will keep the car for 2 something weeks and ship the Wheels somewhere for re-coating. I hope they don't mess them up more than what they are or at least it last longer than the stock paint.

Nick911sc 06-09-2010 12:12 PM

I always wondered why there was some sort of slight black dots on my rims, It was driving me insane thinking it was break dust. But now I know what it is..Luckily it's more on the inside lip than the outer part of the rim.

mannyz 06-09-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 569602)
I always wondered why there was some sort of slight black dots on my rims, It was driving me insane thinking it was break dust. But now I know what it is..Luckily it's more on the inside lip than the outer part of the rim.


Yes Nick, exactly the same black dots I am having on my wheels. And yes they are more noticeable on the hard parts of the wheel, mostly in the inside edges and inside curves of the wheel.

But mine since I wash it often I guess, the coating started showing up faster.

Even when I went to the dealer and saw cars that are parked there never been out of the lot, it shows the same behavior.


But finally my car is at the dealer. Wheels are getting coated again :tup:

Nick911sc 06-09-2010 07:40 PM

I'm happy everything is working out for you! I hope that I never have to go to the dealership for such a problem. I'll be happy if it just stays the way it is. I suppose in the future I'll either powder coat them or just get aftermarket rims.

mannyz 06-09-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 570334)
I'm happy everything is working out for you! I hope that I never have to go to the dealership for such a problem. I'll be happy if it just stays the way it is. I suppose in the future I'll either powder coat them or just get aftermarket rims.

Thank you. Yes it has been quite a challenge, but again I have to thanks BBB, cause they always know where to pull the right string.


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