yeah itd be a good investment for us from a business end and obviously anyone who owns one of the cars. my only concern with the simplicity of a seven sided lug as a lock is that a bigger standard spline key (with six sides) would be able to grip on to the seven, though the odds of having one the exact right size would be next to none.

i'll get on researching this and seeing the feasibility ASAP Monday!

That's what i was thinking. I have some sockets that have more than 12 points....

http://dansmc.com/sockets.jpg

yeah i see. for something like a 12, i dont think itd work under any circumstances; it'll either be too small to go over, or so big that the small width sides would just keep turning over without gripping. but an eight on the other hand...
id say a shape with a bulge on opposite sides but that'd look mad weird.

tested these out today; threaded down the whole length of a G37 stud i was holding in my hands. so good to go on these fitting :D
edit: got five of the OEM lugs here, been playing around with them. how does that washer fasten on to the nuts? i cant get one off to save my life.

I couldn't get it off either.... screw it....LoL.... (no pun intended)

I posted pics on the other forum, looks like you don't need the pics anymore. :bowrofl:

:eek: $300 for a set of wheel lugs????????????????????????? What a total f*ing waste of money.....Titanium or not!!!

:roflpuke2:

I was sitting in econ lecture today playing with the lug nuts I had left over after installing the OEM wheel locks. I was trying to figure out the same exact thing. How DOES that washer fit onto the lug nut?

Ray's shorties go for 150 and others are like 200 for the Volks formula ones...

I paid about 120 shipped for some custom gold powder coated mc-gard spline drive lugs... 300 is insane...

yeah thats the price we're going to beat. but when it comes down to it, thats about the average price for true titanium lug nuts, not aluminum with 'titanium finish' or anything like that. but we'll definitely be beating that price

I'd be willing to pay $300 for a set of washer style mag lugz that will fit my 19" sports Rays. Though I would prefer Black, I guess I could go with another color depending on what was offered.

ditto on the black

That's all I need to hear. Simple feedback and wants from you guys will lead to me making sure your wants are fulfilled :happydance:

I feel the same way.

black, bronze and grey: simple and neutral colors

burnt prototypes look good to me!..no need for colors imo.

update on lugs for sport rims? =]

the washer could be heated during manufacturing and slid over a ridge in the bolt. or a manderal press expands the threads from the inside of the un formed bolt, traping the washer in a cavity. i will bring one up to work and have the shop cut it in half to find out.

[QUOTE=exhaust tips are next after the lug nuts are finalized and finished

i am, but sales never sleeps[/QUOTE]

I was actually referring to a black tip with a burnt Ti edge, but it doesn't sound like you have a good method of applying black.

Also I preffered the lugs with the capped head vs. open end. I know open is probably lighter but I like the finished off look. When you are talking Ti i doubt the difference is much anyway. Not a deal breaker though.

perhaps he is working on it...hopefully

yeah unfortunately that would be pretty hard to do though it would look sick.

and sorry guys gonna be honest here this has been put on the backburner for at least a week, just busy with other stuff, namely Alliance BBKs

OK .. just do not forget the project all together. I figured it would take some work, as no other vendors have jumped on this opportunity yet.

I'd be down for a set of black that fit the sport rims. I could really care less if they're titanium though. Just want something affordable and good quality. Oh and I like the spline lugs.

yeah most likely an aluminum option would be available too for cost reasons

Black.

thats fine if its pushed a week..just make it happen lmao =]

Aluminum is fine by me. Black is preferred however.

Agreed!

Then, black it is!!!

Black for me.

Updates?

bump,

all the money that could be made......

courtesy doesn't use standered part numbers they have there own system for the website i had to call for a cross refferance when looking for my axles. Also i have used aftermarket mag nuts before most just come with washers that slide on and off of the nut, they come in a bag when you get the nuts so they don't have to be attached the principle is the same as the oem alluminum wheels that have conical steel seats pressed in ( it's a gm thing). the steel washer is just there to keep the steel nut from scarring the crap out of the nut seat. the ones with the conical steel seats pressed into the wheels for the acorn style nuts also increase the clamping area from the nut to reduce the stress in the wheel that leads to cracking. think of it as a shoulder bolt with a washer, the shank of the bolt aligns the wheel and the washer is there to help in clamping and reduce the stress on the wheel.

On the alluminum alternative, personally i hate alluminum nuts it only takes one getting seized to a stud, cracking/exploding off the wheel in a corner, rounding the crap out of one with an impact removing them if you take it to a shop, to make you really reconsider ever having bought them. Titanium is great though, as well as a heat treated stainless if you are looking for a lower cost alternative to titanium.

hey guys just to update everyone, we have not forgotten about this or abandoned it. after tomorrow, the 12th, we will be squared away with our big alliance sale we just had, and will be able to focus on this. i contacted the supplier of titanium nuts this thread was originally about, and am awaiting on some info from them to move forward :)

thanks for all the input. its been determined that they'll most likely include the washers not built in, like you said. ill see what they say about the heat treated ss
edit: just for my knowledge so I can get straight to asking without having to ask questions about it, what material do you guys recommend the washers be made of? same as the lug nuts, or something different? maybe theres an industry standard material for the washers or something like that

Thanks for staying on top of this. I am not sure what the washer material should be .. I would assume the washer is just a buffer that prevents the torque from damaging the rims ... perhaps I am wrong though ...

keep it with the quality of the nut itself imo

i saw a new post and i got excited for updates..

and now im doing the same thing that 209Z did to me to some of you! :stirthepot:

it is, just curious on what it is. stainless steel im assuming

r those would fit on Ray 19" stock?? thanks

bump can some plz answer my question thanks