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Curlyfred_Z 03-21-2022 02:29 PM

Wheels should fit, but they don't?
 
Hi guys,

I'm in a bit of pickle here.
I ordered Work meister S1-3p wheels about a year and a half ago and they finally arrived. (I let me guide by the shop where I bought them, it's a pretty big shop so i'm not gonna name any names yet.)
Today I test fitted them and the fronts just don't clear the brakes.

The specs are as following:
Front: 19x9.5 +24 R disc (R disc to clear the big brakes...)
Rear: 19x11 +17 O disc

i'm going to add a video aswell so you guys can see the clearance issue.
I guess I could add a spacer but I really didn't want that considering I purchased custom wheels so they would fit perfect without spacers.
Another issue with extra spacers is, i guess the wheels are going to stick out quite a bit..
I'm on lowering springs and eventually I want to go on coilovers so the wheels will camber a bit more, but I'm not sure if it's going to end well.

What would you guys do in my situation?
Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

https://youtu.be/bJEggvk7fxY

https://ibb.co/2NGV32L
https://ibb.co/pZ7rrgh

JARblue 03-21-2022 02:33 PM

What did the shop have to say?

Averying 03-21-2022 02:53 PM

A quick google search looks like a common setup on these s1-3p is 19x9.5+17 in these wheels, which would give an extra 7mm to clear the brakes.


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Curlyfred_Z 03-21-2022 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 4022140)
What did the shop have to say?

I have immediatly contacted them and they asked to send the vid and pics.
They take a look at is first thing tomorrow so i'll keep this thread posted on what they say/do

Curlyfred_Z 03-21-2022 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4022141)
A quick google search looks like a common setup on these s1-3p is 19x9.5+17 in these wheels, which would give an extra 7mm to clear the brakes.


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I don't know man, If I look at when the wheel hits the caliper and the space between the wheen and the hub, I feel like it's gonna be alot more than 7mils

k67p67 03-21-2022 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Averying (Post 4022141)
A quick google search looks like a common setup on these s1-3p is 19x9.5+17 in these wheels, which would give an extra 7mm to clear the brakes.

That's not how it works. The R-Disk isn't going to clear without spacers no matter what offset. The shop should have ordered T-Disk for the fronts.

It's difficult to determine from that video what size spacer would provide enough clearance. Looks like at least 15mm. That would put the effective offset around +2 which is very aggressive. Personally, I would ditch those wheels and start over.

OptionZero 03-21-2022 03:55 PM

You did not get the correct disc. Offset is not the issue, the face is.

Work makes a “TX-disc” face specifically for our brakes. It is basically T-disk with additional machining for clearance


Had you done more research you could have read members here with this exact issue:
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ers-s1-3p.html

Whoever ordered these wheels for you did not talk to Work sufficiently.

As these are three piece wheels you should be able to contact work and order the correct face and rebuild them

Curlyfred_Z 03-21-2022 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4022148)
You did not get the correct disc. Offset is not the issue, the face is.

Work makes a “TX-disc” face specifically for our brakes. It is basically T-disk with additional machining for clearance


Had you done more research you could have read members here with this exact issue:
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ers-s1-3p.html

Whoever ordered these wheels for you did not talk to Work sufficiently.

As these are three piece wheels your should should be able to contact work and ordee the correct face and rebuild them


I did do alot of research but unfortunately I put too much trust in the shop suggesting the R disc and not looking further into that.
It was also my first set of aftermarket/3p wheels so yeah.

OptionZero 03-21-2022 07:07 PM

Well, now you have the solution. Get some TX-disc faces. Your shop should probably comp you since they ****** up

Curlyfred_Z 03-22-2022 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4022154)
Well, now you have the solution. Get some TX-disc faces. Your shop should probably comp you since they ****** up

I wonder though, are the faces completely interchangable with each other? (is the ET values going to stay the same?)

ZontheRocks 03-22-2022 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z (Post 4022173)
I wonder though, are the faces completely interchangable with each other? (is the ET values going to stay the same?)

I’d say that’s on you to figure out and on the shop to handle. Now you’ve REALLY got to be on top of them so that you’re a satisfied customer.

OptionZero 03-22-2022 10:07 AM

I dont know if there is a “TX” face that is going to keep your offset exactly the same; if i had to guess i’d say no. Im sure Work can calculate the new offset for you


Your current spec is conservative so you have some room

Curlyfred_Z 03-22-2022 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4022186)
I dont know if there is a “TX” face that is going to keep your offset exactly the same; if i had to guess i’d say no. Im sure Work can calculate the new offset for you


Your current spec is co servatice so you have some room

So the shop took a look in the current work catalog and appearantly the T(X) is not available anymore for S1's.

I guess i'm just screwed now..

ZontheRocks 03-22-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Curlyfred_Z (Post 4022189)
So the shop took a look in the current work catalog and appearantly the T(X) is not available anymore for S1's.

I guess i'm just screwed now..

Call up Work yourself and see if there is a solution that you can present to the shop. Don’t rely on the shop telling you that Work is saying it can’t be fixed.

Regardless of what was available, shouldn’t their measurements have caught this prior to purchase? That’s where I keep ending up as I follow the source of the problem.

OptionZero 03-22-2022 02:12 PM

I agree. **** your shop. Contact your local Work wheels distributor and ask yourself

Additionally if “TX disc” is not available, get the T-disc and have it milled for the additional clearance, since that is how Work makes TX themselves

I would not rely on a shop that is not specifically familiar with the Z platform

T-disc is still listed on Work Wheels USA:
https://www.workwheelsusa.com/wp-con...ZING-CHART.pdf

I am skeptical that TX can be discontinued when the base for it is still around


Last option, you can sell the front pair and have someone build you a new front set. A place like Sensei6 can do it, they have parts to make whatever wheel you want


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