Wheels should fit, but they don't?
 

Hi guys,

I'm in a bit of pickle here.
I ordered Work meister S1-3p wheels about a year and a half ago and they finally arrived. (I let me guide by the shop where I bought them, it's a pretty big shop so i'm not gonna name any names yet.)
Today I test fitted them and the fronts just don't clear the brakes.

The specs are as following:
Front: 19x9.5 +24 R disc (R disc to clear the big brakes...)
Rear: 19x11 +17 O disc

i'm going to add a video aswell so you guys can see the clearance issue.
I guess I could add a spacer but I really didn't want that considering I purchased custom wheels so they would fit perfect without spacers.
Another issue with extra spacers is, i guess the wheels are going to stick out quite a bit..
I'm on lowering springs and eventually I want to go on coilovers so the wheels will camber a bit more, but I'm not sure if it's going to end well.

What would you guys do in my situation?
Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

https://youtu.be/bJEggvk7fxY

https://ibb.co/2NGV32L
https://ibb.co/pZ7rrgh

What did the shop have to say?

A quick google search looks like a common setup on these s1-3p is 19x9.5+17 in these wheels, which would give an extra 7mm to clear the brakes.


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I have immediatly contacted them and they asked to send the vid and pics.
They take a look at is first thing tomorrow so i'll keep this thread posted on what they say/do

I don't know man, If I look at when the wheel hits the caliper and the space between the wheen and the hub, I feel like it's gonna be alot more than 7mils

That's not how it works. The R-Disk isn't going to clear without spacers no matter what offset. The shop should have ordered T-Disk for the fronts.

It's difficult to determine from that video what size spacer would provide enough clearance. Looks like at least 15mm. That would put the effective offset around +2 which is very aggressive. Personally, I would ditch those wheels and start over.

You did not get the correct disc. Offset is not the issue, the face is.

Work makes a “TX-disc” face specifically for our brakes. It is basically T-disk with additional machining for clearance


Had you done more research you could have read members here with this exact issue:
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...ers-s1-3p.html

Whoever ordered these wheels for you did not talk to Work sufficiently.

As these are three piece wheels you should be able to contact work and order the correct face and rebuild them

I did do alot of research but unfortunately I put too much trust in the shop suggesting the R disc and not looking further into that.
It was also my first set of aftermarket/3p wheels so yeah.

Well, now you have the solution. Get some TX-disc faces. Your shop should probably comp you since they ****** up

I wonder though, are the faces completely interchangable with each other? (is the ET values going to stay the same?)

I’d say that’s on you to figure out and on the shop to handle. Now you’ve REALLY got to be on top of them so that you’re a satisfied customer.

I dont know if there is a “TX” face that is going to keep your offset exactly the same; if i had to guess i’d say no. Im sure Work can calculate the new offset for you


Your current spec is conservative so you have some room

So the shop took a look in the current work catalog and appearantly the T(X) is not available anymore for S1's.

I guess i'm just screwed now..

Call up Work yourself and see if there is a solution that you can present to the shop. Don’t rely on the shop telling you that Work is saying it can’t be fixed.

Regardless of what was available, shouldn’t their measurements have caught this prior to purchase? That’s where I keep ending up as I follow the source of the problem.

I agree. **** your shop. Contact your local Work wheels distributor and ask yourself

Additionally if “TX disc” is not available, get the T-disc and have it milled for the additional clearance, since that is how Work makes TX themselves

I would not rely on a shop that is not specifically familiar with the Z platform

T-disc is still listed on Work Wheels USA:
https://www.workwheelsusa.com/wp-con...ZING-CHART.pdf

I am skeptical that TX can be discontinued when the base for it is still around


Last option, you can sell the front pair and have someone build you a new front set. A place like Sensei6 can do it, they have parts to make whatever wheel you want

I have emailed Work jpn about this yesterday and wether they can still provide a TX disc.

Also, they are the local work wheel distributors. That's why it gave me so much confidence that whatever they would suggest, it would fit. :p

Don't forget to ask for a T-disc if they can't do a TX disc for some reason.

So, I found this guy that runs 19x9.5 +1 in the front.
https://www.fitmentindustries.com/wh...cing-coilovers

He's on the same coilovers I'm about to get next month.
shouldn't it technically work for me too then? Or am I missing something completely.

You have Akebono calipers right? The above link is just referencing a base Z with what appears to be base brakes. I don't know what the clearances are between those base brakes and wheels, but they won't be the same for a Z with Akebonos.

Correct, but I think with about 20mm +- of spacer, the face should just be infront of the caliper, if that makes sense.
So my meister front specs are +24mm offset, so a 20mm spacer would make that +4 effective mm offset. Correct?

I get where you're going, but one thing to take note of, make sure that you have a means of which to set camber. As someone who has their products, I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend SPL if you are in the market for FUCA's (Front Upper Control Arms - which you will need in order to set camber).

Are we still talking about brake clearance, or are you just interested in wheel fitment?

Your math is correct, a 20mm spacer on a +24 wheel will make it +4

A 9.5 wheel, +4 offset is going to stick out ALOT more than your rears, and will require around -2.5 to -3 camber to clear the fender, depending on height and tire size. For reference, a +4 front will stick out 36mm more than stock but the rears will only be 11mm more than stock (comparison to stock Nismo wheels)

There is zero camber adjustment in the front, so you absolutely need front upper control arms.

here's your homework:
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...tart-here.html

Read that thread

Figure out whether you're going to get a replacement face and what the offset will be (Work can do this for you, i assume) OR if you're going to slap on a bigass spacer (don't do this, it's dumb, and probably need the bolt-on kind or extended studs)

If Work can still provide the TX disc but somehow don't list them in their catalog, the shop said they're going to take back the fronts and new ones can be made.

IF that's not possible, the shop also offered to switch the meisters out for a set of VS XX's in either silver or all back setup
both 19x9.5 +23 Front and 19x11.5 +13 rear.

They also offered a full refund or to supply spacers in order for them to work.
The spacer option would also require me to buy the camber arms and while I really am not a fan of the spacers, if that makes it work, it's still an option i'm considering.

Going to read through the thread you shared in a bit, thankyou!

Further clarification:
It appears "TX disc" might be an internal Work Wheels thing to tell their factory the customer has Akebonos and to add the additional machine to a "T disc". That may explain why it doesn't show up in catalogs. It's just a note to add to the order

If you want the VSXXs, thats up to you. Those sizes are fine, but it's a different design so you have to decide.

Not sure if the boxes OZ is referring to are labeled as "TX" disk. I'm not even sure whether my fronts are T-disk or TX-disk. This is what the box labels look like. They clear my Akebonos by a few millimeters.
https://i.imgur.com/A0FTa3a.jpg

As mentioned above, base brake calipers and Akebono calipers are not comparable.

yeah, however Work wants to label the box, as long as they know your order is going to be for a Z34 with akebono and to manufacture accordingly, thats what matters

Nearly a week has passed now and still no response from Work.
Is it normal for them to take this long to reply?

If you dont get a response u can try a US based retailer to see if they can contact Work USA and get thru that way

eighty8 Motorsport is run by a former member here and sells Works and other wheels

Finally heard back from Work.
T discs would just clear the BBK...
Now do i get new fronts or swap out the wheels for the vsxx's I was offerend..

Hard desicions..

Your choice if you want to skip the wait and just go with the VS-XX. If you do order new front S1 3p, make sure the shop orders T-disk. Not sure if you have tires already. Comparable sizes for T-disk are 19x9.5 +17 or 19x10.0 +24.