Questions regarding four tire options
 

Hello all,

I have a 2009 370Z Touring + Sport. I would greatly appreciate feedback here.

I am looking to pick the right tire for everyday driving, often in the city and some mini road trips very infrequently. I rarely drive in snow but dodging rain isn't an option as it is my daily driver. I'd like to get peak performance without suffering insofar as durability etc.

What would be your pick personally out these options above?

Michelin PILOT SUPER SPORT
Michelin PILOT SPORT 4S
Hancook VENTUS V12 EVO2
Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06

Thanks!

Mike

Pilot Sport 4S. They are the replacement for the Pilot Super Sports.

They're very expensive though. No doubt I'm sure great tires. The continental and Hankook are more affordable. Almost a $300 gap between prices. If you had a second best pick that's slightly more afforadable what would that be?

Are you looking at stock sizes; 245/40/19,275/35/19’s ?

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You can drive year round & won’t sacrifice Performance...Also excellent ride quality & you can bump your rears up to 285’s if you want.


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Michelin PILOT SPORT 4S, yes, expensive, but one of the best tires all around, except when it gets below 40 Degrees for they are summer tires...
had them for a year and love them

Exactly; Great Tire for warm weather...not a DD tire living in Virginia.

I drive all the time below 40 deg on my RE11's. You just have to be more careful and let them come up to temp. Snow, no way. I am driving my truck. LOL

IMHO, I really like the Continental tires. I first ran the Continental Extreme Contact DW on my '04, 350Z. I fell in love with them, quiet, and instead of a ping noise when hitting road divisions (Michelin), was more of a basketball sound.

I currently have Michelin PS2 on my '13, 370Z. When it is time to replace, I will be going to the Continental Extreme Contace DWS 06. I have these on 2 other cars now and cannot say a bad thing about them.

A tire I didn't see in your list is the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500. I have read good things about them, but, I know what I am getting with Continental.

Good luck in your choice.

That’s because you live on the “Edge” & he’s 3/States north of you.
DD & living in a State that sees freezing temperatures = All Season Tires.
Otherwise they’ll crack between the tread & prematurely fail,,,I’ve seen this happen.
Continental DW’s 06 is what we currently run on our Police SS Camaro fleet; but only because Michelin doesn’t offer AS3+’s in their size.
Read ratings & reviews.

Are there any benefits to not going with the stock specs (bumping rears to 285’s)? Man this community is kick ***, you guys are helping a ton.

kchammond this is exactly what happened on my Hancook VENTUS V12 EVO2 originally on this car (cracking on front, braiding showing on rear). Unfortunately I can't pinpoint what mileage they were put on but the car has 48k. I think I bought it with close to 40k.

Our winter last year was very mild but we had some pretty cold days. I just want something that will do good during all seasons but NOT give up the performance aspect. Still re-reading your guys' responses and reviews, accessing which tire is best for me.

The Continentals are probably the best tires you listed for VA weather. I've been extremely happy with the Michelin A/S3s. Plenty of performance for the street and great in inclement weather. I don't have to deal with cold like you do in VA, but the Contis will stand up nicely to it. PSS and PS4, not so much. Ventus definitely not.

Whatever you decide, don't get the Hankooks...

285’s on the rear will give you a slight rake; like the Nismo.
No fitment problems at all.

Also man. I really really really want to go with the PSS and PS4S but just worried they're going to suck for daily situations such as downpours or cold winter days.

So I think the winner is A/S 3+. Thanks also for addressing the rears, I like the look of rake so I am going to go with that, should be fine on the stock "sport or touring" rims they came with (pic of rims http://www.dragtimes.com/2009-Nissan...res-20430.html).

Last questions:
Why do people say A/S 3+ are ugly? I've seen that said. (I know they are something like very minimally more narrower but I love that wide look on the Z, don't want it coming out looking like a Corolla with these tires :()
Lastly, someone said all season don't belong on a Z.

If everyone seems to be on the same page and you can debunk them looking ugly I'm going to go ahead and just order the A/S 3+ tonight.

Side note JARblue, I have the Ventus on my Z, not a great tire. Very minimal tread life and didn't hold up well in city driving and all seasons (cracking, etc.).

jchammond last question will the 285's on the rear be fine with the stock rims that come with the 2009 Sport + Touring?

Only thing holding me back is two things I saw mentioned on the forum.

1) These tires don't look good (maybe because of the narrowness)
2) All weather tires don't belong on a Z

Thoughts?

I'm pretty close to ordering your recommendation tonight though.

1) S-04s maybe. But that's why you size up from 275 to 285 for them. Don't know of any other tire that runs as narrow. 285 will fit fine and look fine on the sport package Rays rear wheels.

2) Depends on what you need out of the car. Some people only drive their Z on the track. Obviously, A/S tires aren't appropriate. But someone daily driving their Z in Virginia? Then sure, A/S tires are perfectly appropriate (and safe!).

You gotta get what perform's for you & not what work's for someone that lives where they can run Max-Summer tires year round....That's why i'd run the A/S3+'s & they're "Y" speed rated (186mph) & they are track tested.
285/35/19's are a perfect square fit on 19x10's & you'll love the ride & tread wear.
All Michelin tires look good!

You can get these & then use this for an excuse to get you a "Custom-Fit" set of wheels/tires for the summer time.
You won't be dis-satisfied at all!

Haha wish I could afford a custom set for the summer, not atm.

Do you guys recommend an alignment with the installation of the new tires?

Depends on how the tires look that come off & if you’ve had any issues with pulling,etc...

If you get an alignment contract (NTB does 5 years and Firestone does lifetime), then you can just go get one whenever you feel like it. I drove mine hard enough that I needed new rear tires about every six months - I got an alignment every time.

Placing my order!

Just to confirm is this sizing right??

245-40/19
285-35/19
?

You good with those- 26.7”F & 26.9”R

Order complete! They arrive Thursday, pretty excited :). Man forgot how expensive replacing all four tires is but I bet after the install, bigger rears (285), and realignment she will drive like a beauty.

My rims on the other hand have some bad scuffs-rashing from city parking. I could plastic dip them black to hid that.

Be sure the alignment people give you a printout; as there has been quite a few members (including myself) get a Fubarred one & car doesn’t drive right.
Wouldn’t hurt to ask if they had experience aligning the Z’s
Hope all goes well & tire’s will perform great!

Thanks again for all the help!

Mike

Congrats on the new tires! Given you boosted the width a size on the rears, just wondering why you didn't go a bit wider up front, e.g., 255 or 265?

I'm asking because I plan to go 285 / 255 or 265 on my next set.

DD & that would put him back to negative rake.

Sorry... My bad... didn't know he was going for that look.

Oh, You ok...if you read back through the thread? Some tire options were brought up for a Virginia based Z & used as a DD.
I had suggested the A/S3+ Michelin’s because of the climate there...& added tax about bumping the rears from a 275 to a 285 (if desired) as stockers are 26.7”F/26.6”R & the 285/35 rear would push it up to 26.9”...that’s all,,,as unsure OP’s driving habits,cars suspension or anything.
I knew the max summer tires were not made for a daily driver in Virginia.
The 255/40’s would fit fine on the 9” wheel...just they’re 27.1” tall (0.4” more than the 245’s)
As these suggested are oem Nismo sizes.

Post your wheel configuration & what your desires are,,,plenty of folks here have been there/done that a time or 3.

GOOD INFORMATION - THANKS:tiphat:

Man I'm so excited the car is done, I get to pick it up after work! They sent me the alignment before and after as you suggested.

See images and let me know your thoughts!

https://ibb.co/b68KCT

Not bad at all-everything in the green...How bout a pic of the Z?

Hey jchammond! I'm super thankful for the help, got the car back and drove it yesterday and this morning. I'm mostly happy! I haven't been able to really push the car due to traffic but I was happy with the smoother and quieter ride. Overall the car just feels more solid.

A few last questions. On the forums I found users saying if you go 285 in the rear then go 255 in the front (some guys even suggested 295 in the rear!). Just wondering why you had not suggested the 255 for the front? I know the Nismo was something you had in mind.

Second I heard one guy saying bumping the rears will slow down the car, that has to be a myth I imagine?

Sorry to continue the thread going but just want to feel my 1,200 decision was a good one :).

Article discussing it
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...275-285-a.html


Lastly I will provide a pic of the car soon, haven't been able to do much in the past few days to work and other things.

Didn’t want you to get the 4x4 effect....255/40’s are nearly 1/2” taller than the 245’s & would have you at negative rake again (front tires taller than rear)
You got 26.7” front & 26.9” rear,,,255’s are 27.1”

+ a 295/35 is not offered in that tire you got.

Thank you sir! And the fact you didn't respond to the statement that "a larger rear tire will slow down the car" tells me its likely not accurate. I'd imagine the performance would actually improve unless the weight difference is that significant.

New tire vs new tire... 0.3” diameter; very slight longer gear,
Old tires were probably 5/8-3/4” shorter- so you may notice a tad bit of low end acceleration lost; but not likely.

Real quick update and special shout out to jchammond.

Not sure how, but these Michelin (all weather) you recommended are better than the Ventus V12 Evo2 (summer) I had on previously. I finally got to push the car yesterday. Man first to second pedal to the medal nearly 0 slip. Cornering aggressively barely any roll and thing was gripping like a champ. On my second drive it started raining, I was able to corner and feel completely in control whereas with the Ventus would start to hydroplane even before they were worn down. Overall I am very happy! So thanks again. Next up brakes in about 5-10k, I may reach out to you then. :)

Long live the Z!