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shadow85 10-10-2016 08:53 PM

After some deep dish wheels now
 
Hey guys, I was looking at some Work Meister S13P deep dish wheels but my local dealer here in AU said that it won't fit my 370Z as it won't clear the brake caliper.

Wondering what alternative wheels I can get that look like the Meister S13P in deep dish and black disk, with polished black lip and gold rivets?

cooltoy 10-10-2016 11:08 PM

Plenty of Z's run them. Are you sure they are giving you the right offsets?

WORK Meister S13P – 19″ – 370Z/G35/G37 – RavSpec

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...tom-color.html

OptionZero 10-10-2016 11:35 PM

It's not the "deep dish"-ness thats preventing fitment in front, its the face design.

Download the size chart from work:
Work Wheels :: Products :: Meister S1 3P

There are three different face or "disk" options, L-Disk, R-Disk, and O-Disk

Your dealer should contact Work to see which disk will clear 370Z brakes. Its a popular enough car across Japan and US that they should know. Or just see if it'll clear GTR brakes - if they clear those they should clear anything

Bear in mind that if you want truly "deep dish" the next step is to figure out how aggressive you want to be

for example You could have brake clearance and a fat 5 inch lip if you really wanted, but you'd probably need fender work, camber, stretch, etc.

You sound pretty new to this so i'd recommend digging through the wheel fitment threads and finding a spec you like and then comparing it to available Work wheel sizes to see how much lip you gonna get in that spec

EDIT:
the Ravspec sets linked above seem like exactly what you want

shadow85 10-11-2016 12:23 AM

Ok I thought this was possible for the 370Z so not sure why the dealer said it wasn't?? Yeah the link cooltoy posted looks like exactly what I want. If I am to chose the 11" rear width, what lip size do I chose to be the widest without needing fender or camber adjustment?

EDIT:

Well I just showed the dealer here those links and this is his response:

"us spec and aussie spec i think is different.

i am happy to order for you but it will be at your own risk.

i asked work japan before many times about this and i havent sold one yet in australia. revspec posted the thread in 2013. i have asked a few times between 2013 and 2016 and the answer is no. it cannot be fitted.

even 2016 matching data from work still says it doesnt fit. i am not going to ask again because it's just going to look silly because i have asked them a couple of times before.

ravspec uses T disk and it says it clear the brake without using any spacer. the problem with our brake is not the thickness. its the height. it doesnt matter which center disk you use as the width of the center disk is the same. what change is only the brake clearance area.

in order word, it doesnt matter which center disk you use. A, O, R or T. all are of the same height and it hit the inner barrel side of the wheel."

So it seems aussie spec is different??

He did say the CR 2P will fit though.

NorthStyle 10-11-2016 01:13 AM

Take a picture of your brakes and compare them with the brakes of another Z wearing the wheels you're interested in. I'd be willing to bet they're the same.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 02:24 AM

Is he getting confused and thinking that 18's wont fit?

Because . . . you should be getting 19's anyways.


and while others can confirm, i cannot imagine that Aussie spec Z's have BIGGER brakes then US cars, which have used those wheels. In fact, i'd bet on it. Given the small size of the AUS market i cannot imagine Nissan would go with different brakes just for it. certainly not bigger, maybe smaller (base).

your dealer sounds . . . n00b.

I mean, people have ACTUALLY run these wheels on their cars before, so it sounds like your dealer doesn't know what the **** he's talking about.


and while i'm add it, why the hell are you scared about fender and camber adjustments? if you want deep dish, do the work! (pun intended?) Its so sad to see people posting how they want stuff from their wheel fit ment (dish, concave, blah blah) but are too scared to roll a fender. I mean, ****, you can't even see it from the outside and it has zero affect on the rest of your car

shadow85 10-11-2016 02:57 AM

No I told the dealer 19s and even gave him the link to the ravspec 370Z spec 19" Meister S13P, and like I posted before he said aparantly it won't fit the Aussie 370Z because of the brake height on our Z's. And Australia only has the sports models here, there is no base model or nismo model here.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 03:34 AM

He's wrong
Unless u show us pictures of your radical Australian brakes unlike anything we've seen

shadow85 10-11-2016 04:53 AM

Here are pics of my brakes:

REAR


https://s6.postimg.org/lywb5rq1d/20161011_180325.jpg

FRONT


https://s6.postimg.org/4a95rw3o1/20161011_180317.jpg

axmea? 10-11-2016 07:12 AM

Find another dealer. He is the sh!ts. I've seen these wheels on Zs with BBKs.

JARblue 10-11-2016 07:46 AM

:iagree:

OP, your dealer is a moron and probably lying to you about contacting Work regarding the wheels. Don't even let them buy the wheels for you - they'll probably screw up your order or some $hit :ugh:

cooltoy 10-11-2016 09:02 AM

Talk to these guys, they are a sponsor on Zclub.au.com.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rum558x800.jpg

cooltoy 10-11-2016 09:06 AM

What about Work Meister S1R?

madeinjapan 10-11-2016 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3564711)
It's not the "deep dish"-ness thats preventing fitment in front, its the face design.

:tup:

OptionZero 10-11-2016 10:44 AM

Those look like the same akebonos that come on . . . every non-base Z. Everywhere.

Dealer fail.

axmea? 10-11-2016 12:45 PM

One other thing. You do not have a lot to choose from. There is not much of a selection when it comes to deep dish wheels for the Z. Aside from Work Wheels, you should check Avant Garde. They have AG Form or AG Function wheels that you might be interested in. They work with Work Wheels :) on some of their products. Contact Avant Garde or getyourwheels.com for more information. They are a forum sponsor. Although you need to look at the offsets, I have a 4" lip on the rear on mine.


[IMG]https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/723/23...ff8a7a1c_b.jpgDSCN3164 by Raf, on Flickr[/IMG]

Anthony@Royal 10-11-2016 01:08 PM

These wheels will fit your car as long as you chose the correct face. You can contact work direct, they'll give you the correct specs to order.

shadow85 10-11-2016 02:20 PM

Guess I'll be contacting Work today. Thanks for the info guys.

shadow85 10-11-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3564831)
Talk to these guys, they are a sponsor on Zclub.au.com.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rum558x800.jpg

Lol, THIS is the guy that I was talking to! He told me that it cannot fit Australian spec Z, and he has asked Work Wheels Japan several times.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3564932)
One other thing. You do not have a lot to choose from. There is not much of a selection when it comes to deep dish wheels for the Z. Aside from Work Wheels, you should check Avant Garde. They have AG Form or AG Function wheels that you might be interested in. They work with Work Wheels :) on some of their products. Contact Avant Garde or getyourwheels.com for more information. They are a forum sponsor. Although you need to look at the offsets, I have a 4" lip on the rear on mine.


[IMG]https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/723/23...ff8a7a1c_b.jpgDSCN3164 by Raf, on Flickr[/IMG]

um . . . what do you mean, not alot of selection? The Z can fit ridiculous sizes, basically anything you want to try, the rear fenders can handle. There's chasms of space, especially compared to other RWD cars out there

You can get "deep dish" in any multipiece wheel you want if you order decent sizes.

Work makes 3P and 2P wheels
SSR
Weds

if you want more custom stuff, and i dont know all of the quality, but Rotiform, DPE, SevenK . . . probably more that i can't think of right now

the Z has so much room there are limitless possibilities for anyone who wants to put in the effort and put up the $$$

The only restriction is budget and fear of camber, stretch, and fenderwork. Then its ur own damn fault.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 05:19 PM

Hell, just look at this Chris's build thread:
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...thread-19.html

He's gone through like three or four sets of multipiece wheels, all very aggressive, all plenty of lip

Page 9: http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...-thread-9.html

He's running Work VSXX, 20x10, -3 and 20x11, -5.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 05:29 PM

Also look at what this guy's running:
http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...19x11-7-a.html

sport brakes. deep dish.

no more excuses not to go ahead and order them, **** your dealer

shadow85 10-11-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3565071)
Also look at what this guy's running:
http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...19x11-7-a.html

sport brakes. deep dish.

no more excuses not to go ahead and order them, **** your dealer

Well, I am asking Work Wheels USA and Japan. If they can say it will fit, then screw it I will order the wheels as I love em'. If they don't fit I should be able to get my money back under Australian Consumer law.

cooltoy 10-11-2016 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 3565030)
Lol, THIS is the guy that I was talking to! He told me that it cannot fit Australian spec Z, and he has asked Work Wheels Japan several times.

I had a suspicion, that it might be him. Why the hell is he sponsoring a Z club and advertising these wheels there if he dose not think they will fit?

shadow85 10-11-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3565090)
I had a suspicion, that it might be him. Why the hell is he sponsoring a Z club and advertising these wheels there if he dose not think they will fit?

Because he may be sponsoring for other Z members that have the 350Z for example. Which those wheels do fit for.

axmea? 10-11-2016 06:08 PM

Lol. This thread might be going sideways. I would not recommend stretching, crazy cambers, and fender work for the quest of deep dish wheels. The OP never mentioned if he would be open to that.

shadow85 10-11-2016 08:17 PM

Well I may venture into rolling fenders if really required, but I do not really want to adjust cambers, because I want to try an keep maximum performance.

OptionZero 10-11-2016 08:37 PM

lol at camber hurting performance
Op drives an automatic sports car, and we're talking about deep dish wheels

what the **** does performance have anything to do with this
and camber can be good

always laugh at these people saying they don't want to run camber because its a bad thing or something

cooltoy 10-11-2016 08:39 PM

Our fenders are rolled already from factory.

shadow85 10-11-2016 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3565135)
lol at camber hurting performance
Op drives an automatic sports car, and we're talking about deep dish wheels

what the **** does performance have anything to do with this
and camber can be good

always laugh at these people saying they don't want to run camber because its a bad thing or something


Lol no need to get all worked up because you know it all about cars and I don't. I'm not very tech savy on cars, I only google things I don't know about. And apparently from the results, any camber adjustment can hurt acceleration, although it may be a very small amount if any at all.

And arn't automatics faster in a drag race?

shadow85 10-11-2016 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony@Royal (Post 3564946)
These wheels will fit your car as long as you chose the correct face. You can contact work direct, they'll give you the correct specs to order.

And I just got an e-mail back from Work Wheels USA, and they said they have no information at all on the Australian market 370Z specs and referred me to JDMConcept, the dealer who originally said it will not fit, LOL.

cooltoy 10-11-2016 09:54 PM

Vicious circle.

cooltoy 10-11-2016 09:55 PM

How about asking Nissan if your Z's are any different from the rest of the world? And I don't mean your Nissan dealer.

shadow85 10-12-2016 12:09 AM

Now I have spoken with Wheel Worx, another shop here that deal with Work Wheels products. And they have stated that they have been in contact with Work Wheels who have claimed that is definitely possible to have the Meister S13P set custom built, 19x9 front and 19x10 rear to suit our Australian 370Z.

I am so confused!?!? JDMConcept say they cannot, Wheel Worx say they can, and Work Wheels say they have no idea, LOL???

NorthStyle 10-12-2016 12:42 AM

...and you have multiple people here (who actually drive the car) saying they can. I'd go with the consensus, especially after we all saw how different your brakes weren't. Just saying.

shadow85 10-12-2016 02:44 AM

I guess there is no harm in trying if one of the stores (Wheel Worx) here claims it is possible. Only problem holding me back now, is their price is around $1000 AUD more than the other store (JDMConcept) who claim it won't fit. :(

shadow85 10-12-2016 06:26 AM

I also contacted autocraze.com.au and they told me they do not deal with Work Wheels anymore because they had some problems with them in the past, but did not tell me what sort of problems.

axmea? 10-12-2016 10:35 AM

Probably got caught selling below WORK pricing.

madeinjapan 10-12-2016 10:47 AM

curious whats the deepest the z can go in the front with sport brakes

20x9 +15 ?

OptionZero 10-12-2016 12:21 PM

you didn't even bother checking any of the links in this thread?

here's one again, 19x10 -2:
http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...19x11-7-a.html

And 20x9 +15 is lol.

This guy is doing 20x10.5 +10
http://jdmchicago.com/wp/2013/01/jay...nismo-edition/

Wiggins did 20x10.5 +24 and he was running a freakin 285 in front

i'm doing 20x11 +15

like i said
The Z can fit damn near anything, folks are just afraid to try it


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