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OP, maybe you should consider autox instead of doing HPDE. It still gives you an opportunity to push the car (albeit not as fast) but at a much lower cost

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Old 06-17-2016, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OP, maybe you should consider autox instead of doing HPDE. It still gives you an opportunity to push the car (albeit not as fast) but at a much lower cost and lower risk.
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OP, maybe you should consider autox instead of doing HPDE. It still gives you an opportunity to push the car (albeit not as fast) but at a much lower cost and lower risk.
Not really the same thing or same driving technique. I can cover the cost fine and I only plan to go 2-3 times a season. I think you guys are getting the wrong idea of what I'm after. I am not racing or trying for a personal best or competing I am out to have a fun day legally and stay within my limits, comfort zone. Yes at the track there are plenty of track spec Porsche and BMW but there are also lower level classes with people that just want to learn to be smoother/cleaner and quicker. So for me that's worth the cost for others maybe not and they will do it on the streets and if they ever get caught they will probably have a different opinion later after the lawyer fees, fines and community service (it only takes that one time to make all the others not worth it). So I'll do my spirited driving on the track and I'm more than happy to give a point to pass if I'm holding someone up.

Looking at the avg mi and my avg mi I probably will look at the re11/pss/or direzza star spec ii after all since I only drive at 15k a year at most. Probably end up a rear set a year and a front ever 1.5 is my guess.
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I think you guys are getting the wrong idea of what I'm after. I am not racing or trying for a personal best or competing I am out to have a fun day legally and stay within my limits, comfort zone.
We can all respect that. My opinion is:
  • I think running front XP10 on stock size, all-season compound tires is a mismatch. Certainly not a good match long term.
  • If all season tire already feels greasy to you now, you'll outgrow that tire category in no time.
  • Most starts out with the idea of just having a little fun. That quickly changes as your skill improves...slowly but surely, you brake a little later, turn a little harder, even if you aren't trying to be a hero.
  • If you wanna save $, get all season for the street, invest in a set of 18' rims and serious shoes for the track. However...
  • IMHO, in hot climate, using strong summer tires on the street is a not waste of money. From a safety perspective, that 5ft reduction in braking distance or the extra bit of lateral grip may make a difference just that one time you need it most.
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We can all respect that. My opinion is:
  • I think running front XP10 on stock size, all-season compound tires is a mismatch. Certainly not a good match long term.
  • If all season tire already feels greasy to you now, you'll outgrow that tire category in no time.
  • Most starts out with the idea of just having a little fun. That quickly changes as your skill improves...slowly but surely, you brake a little later, turn a little harder, even if you aren't trying to be a hero.
  • If you wanna save $, get all season for the street, invest in a set of 18' rims and serious shoes for the track. However...
  • IMHO, in hot climate, using strong summer tires on the street is a not waste of money. From a safety perspective, that 5ft reduction in braking distance or the extra bit of lateral grip may make a difference just that one time you need it most.
Cool plan and that fits what I'm after. I do plan on a second set, probably some type of r comp so I can still drive on them to and from the track as I have no trailer (I got a hitch but no trailer). Will 18 fit with sport brakes? I may look into cost comparison as it seems you can find the Rays 19 for not too bad an investment but then the tires will cost more vs probably paying more for a good aftermarket 18 but then cheaper tire price.

And your right the brakes were way overkill but I'm still not late braking yet and errord on the side of safe (didn't want car and driver Nismo event happening to me), easy enough to swap in and out too so they should last a while since only used on track.
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