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Filipe 03-12-2016 11:57 PM

GForce, S04 Or Continental DW?
 
Hi Guys,

I picked up a 40th a couple months ago :happydance: and it's going to need new tires soon.
Mods: intake + Exhaust
Driving Needs: Must be able to take on dry and wet conditions. Car MIGHT see some snow on the rarest of occasions. Certainly don't plan on winter driving it. The less road noise the better. No track days in the foreseeable future.

Don't really want to spend more than 900 on rubber, so please no recommendations of PSS or RE11s...thanks.

Here are the three I've narrowed it down to:

1- BFGoodrich*g-Force COMP-2 A/S

2- Bridgestone*Potenza S-04 Pole Position

3- Continental*ExtremeContact DW

Thank you for your help!

barncobob 03-13-2016 06:32 AM

go to Tirerack, look up reviews on each tire, lots of unbiased opinions there from users

MagmaRed370z 03-13-2016 08:30 AM

S04 is a really great tire. Very sticky on dry and wet. A tiny little bit louder than stock but not much. Great tire. Highly recommended.

Memphis370Z 03-13-2016 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3435096)
S04 is a really great tire. Very sticky on dry and wet. A tiny little bit louder than stock but not much. Great tire. Highly recommended.

:iagree:

TreeSemdyZee 03-13-2016 09:34 AM

I had the DWs as my last tire.
They are awesome in the wet, but I wouldn't trust them in the snow.
I currently have DWSs and they aren't great in the snow. They're OK, but I run snow tires in the winter.

Filipe 03-13-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3435077)
go to Tirerack, look up reviews on each tire, lots of unbiased opinions there from users

thanks, I already did that. Notice how the links are to tire rack? I wanted specific 370z feedback.

Filipe 03-13-2016 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 3435116)
I had the DWs as my last tire.
They are awesome in the wet, but I wouldn't trust them in the snow.
I currently have DWSs and they aren't great in the snow. They're OK, but I run snow tires in the winter.

how loud are the DWs?

kenchan 03-13-2016 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3435100)
:iagree:

:iagree: S04 all the way out of those choices.

if u want slight snowish traction, the DWS06 (all-season) is not bad. i started running this on my STI a few months ago and they feel much better than the DW on my Z. lol i currently run RE11's on nismo wheels on my Z.

DW isnt necessarily bad, they just feel real soft so expect to run high psi on the front. like 38 range :ugh:

Filipe 03-13-2016 12:12 PM

I am really leaning to the GForces at the moment. Anyone have bad experiences with these?

Solid370z 03-13-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filipe (Post 3435127)
how loud are the DWs?

Not as loud as our stock tires. Does great in rain. I have also driven fine in 1-2 inches of snow :driving: great tires overall and highly recommended for all season tires.

cjwsrt6 03-13-2016 01:54 PM

I run the dw 265/305 and love them, wet or dry they're great, used them once at autocross and was pleasantly surprised how well they held up there too, priced really well in my opinion for what you get

EzDz 03-13-2016 02:16 PM

I have sport comp 2s, not all seasons and love them. Super predictable and really love the dry

Filipe 03-13-2016 06:39 PM

thanks for the feedback guys. It really does sound like I can't go wrong with any of these.

All things considered, I'll probably pocket the $50 and get the Pole positions over the BFGs. I just hope they last as long as the BFGs would.

I'm looking at 285/35/19 and 245/40/19. Should I consider something else?

kenchan 03-13-2016 06:43 PM

those are perfect sizes, GL! you'll like the S04's. i run them on my G right now.

Filipe 03-13-2016 11:51 PM

With those aspect ratios, will the meatiness from the fronts to the rears be the same?

brancky3 03-14-2016 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filipe (Post 3435542)
With those aspect ratios, will the meatiness from the fronts to the rears be the same?

Very similar, front will have a 1.75mm smaller sidewall.

Filipe 03-14-2016 07:05 AM

OK, cool that's how I prefer it anyway.

edub370 03-14-2016 09:25 AM

i was at this same dilemma and just went with the s04's.

RanRich 03-14-2016 08:37 PM

Do NOT get the BFGs. They were very okay. I was in the same boat between the S04 and DW and will be putting the DW's on this weekend.

imjello 03-15-2016 08:43 AM

+1 for S-04

I like the Bridgestone*Potenza S-04 Pole Position, on my second set. They work well for daily driving ( great in rain ) and i have used them for autocross.

BFGoodrich*g-Force COMP-2 A/S are ultra summer tires, a lower level in terms of performance compared to the other two tires

I referenced this test when buying tires. The PSS (1st) and Advans (3rd) that place near it are much more expensive. S-04 was considered second place
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

barncobob 03-15-2016 04:32 PM

as the SEALS say...2nd place is the first place loser,,:rolleyes:

imjello 03-16-2016 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3436672)
as the SEALS say...2nd place is the first place loser,,:rolleyes:


866.86 vs 1122.00 for PSS ( Price After Mail-In Rebate: $1,052.00 ). OP doesn't wanna drop a grand. Also I think thats a Dale Earnhardt quote

Filipe 03-16-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3437194)
866.86 vs 1122.00 for PSS ( Price After Mail-In Rebate: $1,052.00 ). OP doesn't wanna drop a grand. Also I think thats a Dale Earnhardt quote

:ughdance:
Truth. I also hear that the benefits of PSS over S04s are minimal. I just want something DD worthy. Not concerned about tracking for now.

When I go to get these new tires installed...do I need to get new TPMSs as well?

MagmaRed370z 03-16-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filipe (Post 3437634)
:ughdance:
Truth. I also hear that the benefits of PSS over S04s are minimal. I just want something DD worthy. Not concerned about tracking for now.

When I go to get these new tires installed...do I need to get new TPMSs as well?

No, the TPMS stay with the rim. The tire is what changes.

YzGyz 03-16-2016 06:59 PM

I had B-Stone P S04. They look great on the car. I love the extra meat sticking out protecting the rim (I have never gotten close to scratching them but it's nice to know it;s there). They are a steal of a deal $$ for performance wise. Although they are great, I have to move on to something more sticky as I have more power now. I rec. S04 to anyone.

YzGyz

Filipe 03-16-2016 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3437635)
No, the TPMS stay with the rim. The tire is what changes.

Thought so as well, but couldn't find a definitive answer. Is this something that needs to be swapped after X amount of miles though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3437637)
I had B-Stone P S04. They look great on the car. I love the extra meat sticking out protecting the rim (I have never gotten close to scratching them but it's nice to know it;s there). They are a steal of a deal $$ for performance wise. Although they are great, I have to move on to something more sticky as I have more power now. I rec. S04 to anyone.

YzGyz

Great! What size did you go with?

Brendan 03-16-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filipe (Post 3437643)
Thought so as well, but couldn't find a definitive answer. Is this something that needs to be swapped after X amount of miles though?

Replace them when they go bad. You will know they are bad when the tpms light comes on even though the tires are properly inflated. There is no typical service interval for tpms.

Tire shops may tell you that you should replace them when you replace tires, but that is general rule for moms in minivans who usually replace tires every 35-50k miles.

Filipe 03-16-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 3437648)
Tire shops may tell you that you should replace them when you replace tires, but that is general rule for moms in minivans who usually replace tires every 35-50k miles.

This. I wanted to go in with knowledge and not look at them like :confused: when they asked.

YzGyz 03-16-2016 08:14 PM

I have stock Nismo size.

YzGyz

RanRich 03-22-2016 02:23 PM

Mounted the DW's Saturday - 265/35 and 285/35

Have about 300 miles on them so far and love them. Very quiet and more comfortable than the GForce's I just had. No hard cornering yet but great braking and WOT feel, even at lower temps where the GForce's would set off ABS and VDC.

Filipe 03-29-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanRich (Post 3441462)
Mounted the DW's Saturday - 265/35 and 285/35

Have about 300 miles on them so far and love them. Very quiet and more comfortable than the GForce's I just had. No hard cornering yet but great braking and WOT feel, even at lower temps where the GForce's would set off ABS and VDC.

diid you have the Gforces on all 4?

Bshields22 03-29-2016 02:13 PM

S-04 hands down. the S-04 won 2nd place in Car and Drivers "Monsters of Grip" Summer Tire review. They we just shy of first place which of course went the the Pilot Super Sports.

Here's the link if you are interested: Monsters of Grip: Nine Summer-Performance Tires Tested - Comparison Test - Car and Driver

Filipe 03-31-2016 09:27 AM

Veddy nice, thank you!

greenlawnraci 04-05-2016 12:38 PM

Same situation here - need new rubber for my 14 base+sport.

Had Conti DSWs on my G35 which was a daily that saw 30k/year spirited miles.

Hearing good things about the BStones though. One thing I like about the Conti is a 25k tread wear warranty, 50k if the shop doesn't enforce the lack of rotation policy.

Car is a second vehicle used for fun spirited drives only. No track.

tduy87 04-25-2016 01:01 PM

Hi,

I just installed 4 brand new Bridgestone BFG Comp 2 A/S on my car. At first, it feels quieter than the stock tires. Second, steering wheel response feels better vs OEM. After driving with the new set, I felt like our OEM tires oversteer. Third, great traction on wet and dry roads even in curves. I have not had a chance to test it in the snow yet so I have no comment on that. Fourth, it looks aggressive on our car.

My only concern now that I have about 100 miles on the new tires is that for some reason at speed 70mph+, my steering wheel wobbles a little bit. It used to not do that with the OEM set. I'm not sure if the tires needs to be broken in or bad balancing.

barncobob 04-25-2016 01:14 PM

rebalance,,,believe the best machine is roadforce(?) wheel weight could have fallen off.

greenlawnraci 04-27-2016 06:35 PM

Got some S04s and so far, so good. From what I hear the DSWs are a great tire if you need more longevity and more of an all season tire. For me, its a second vehicle that I'd like to get max (or close to) performance out of most of the time that I drive it. Should the S04s suck, back to the DSWs I'll go!

kenchan 04-27-2016 06:42 PM

good choice. for warmer months the S04's will beat the DWS hands down..plus the S04's look so much nicer too.

the new DWS06 is even better dan the DWS. i run the DWS06 on my STI's winter set as the car came with summer tires.

Memphis370Z 04-27-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlawnraci (Post 3469805)
Got some S04s and so far, so good. From what I hear the DSWs are a great tire if you need more longevity and more of an all season tire. For me, its a second vehicle that I'd like to get max (or close to) performance out of most of the time that I drive it. Should the S04s suck, back to the DSWs I'll go!

Did you get them locally? I got mine at Discount Tire in Cordova and they gave me a great deal.

greenlawnraci 05-01-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3469824)
Did you get them locally? I got mine at Discount Tire in Cordova and they gave me a great deal.



Got them at the local Firestone and they beat Tire Rack out the door. And the guy there knew his poop.

I do need some tires for my daily driver though - will likely do Discount Online


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