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Revrent 05-16-2015 07:18 AM

Tires for a daily driver?
 
I have been reading many of the threads trying to figure out what most of the drivers here are buying for tires. I am even more confused than when I started. I have a 2014 Roadster with the sport package. I would appreciate any advice on what new tires you recommend and where you bought them.

Thanks for the info and direction for a new first time 370 owner.

God bless
John

kenchan 05-16-2015 07:30 AM

Bridgestone S04. use 285/35/19 for the rear.

POS VETT 05-16-2015 07:37 AM

It depends on what weather your car is operated in, your budget, what you want to do with the car, and then there is brand preference.

If I could make an educated guess by the small amount of information available to me, you could get away with a dedicated summer tire.

There are multitudes of a place to buy tires. There are local ones if you do not wish to be hassled by shipping and arranging the mounting and balancing. I could suggest Discount Tire, but that's just because I have had a good experience with them and my wheel and tire guy works at a local one. I'm sure someone will say that it's no good; the same scenario will apply to other venues.

One online place I use is Tire Rack. Their website allows me to select and filter tires by category. I can read reviews and tests there and they carry a wide selection of tire brands. I have used TR prices to bargain the price at my local DT store; my wheel and tire guy is fully aware of this.

So, I suggest a bit more research and then come up with a few tires; some of us here can help with pinpointing or giving opinions.

kenchan 05-16-2015 07:43 AM

I think the op isn't really into tires and he was okay with the ones that came with the car.
that said, the S04 is better than the RE050's in terms of grip wet or dry while maintaining the bridgestone goodness.
it would be a safe step up from stock.

now if one was looking for great tires for spirited driving, i would suggest none other than RE11's.

kenchan 05-16-2015 07:44 AM

and i would stay away from.. ___________ (u guys fill in)



:rofl2:

oldschool350z 05-16-2015 07:45 AM

Tire rack. No state tax, great service and now they are offering free road hazard with all purchases.

sofaonasock 05-16-2015 01:31 PM

Michelin Pilot Super Sport

Guavazo 05-16-2015 01:32 PM

I'm using michelin pilot sport a/s 3

geddy lee 05-16-2015 02:45 PM

PSSs, hands down.

TexasChuck 05-16-2015 03:58 PM

Boy Oh Boy!
 
Here we go again!

PS: Daily Driver.....all season tires.

Drakonis GTR 05-16-2015 05:43 PM

You could most likely get away with summer performance tires or all-season performance.

The Bridgestones that come on the car factory are decent, though somewhat pricey. I went with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3s for my DD in Florida, because of the great wet-traction, but they are not very cheap either. I know that there are other threads on here where people have listed cheaper tires that work well.

onzedge 05-16-2015 06:04 PM

Micheling Pilot Super Sport

There is no doubt in my mind.

Potenza Pole Position S-04 are a close second.

Stay away from Sears brand, K-mart brand, Big-O (any brand), Hankook (han-cuckoo) of any type, Pirelli, Goodyear, Firestone, General and Kuhmo...

cooltoy 05-16-2015 06:36 PM

:iagree:

MagmaRed370z 05-16-2015 07:16 PM

Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

MacCool 05-16-2015 07:36 PM

S04's, there's no doubt in my mind. (cost -efficiency). They are a very close second to the PSS. So close that the PSS isn't worth the price difference for 99% of the drivers.
Tire Rack online. The trick is finding someone to mount and balance them without scarfing your wheels.

cjwsrt6 05-16-2015 07:58 PM

Continental DW, good mix of weather and performance and they're priced well

onzedge 05-17-2015 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3200079)
Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

I think I said that already. :icon17:

onzedge 05-17-2015 04:57 AM

Never skimp on tires -- they are the only thing between you and the road...

geddy lee 05-17-2015 02:19 PM

^ That's right. You do not skimp on tires. Think about it. The turns, the on and off ramps, the lane changes, the grip, in the rain. PSSs FTW.

kenchan 05-17-2015 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasChuck (Post 3200011)
Here we go again!

PS: Daily Driver.....all season tires.

:icon08: all seaons = no season

all season tires are okay on suv's sedans, minivans, station wagons, wheel barrow, etc.

darkphantom 05-17-2015 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjwsrt6 (Post 3200093)
Continental DW, good mix of weather and performance and they're priced well

I've just got these put on my car, will let you know how they fare this week!

Z-Girl 12 05-17-2015 09:10 PM

RE11 for me.

onzedge 05-17-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geddy lee (Post 3200390)
^ That's right. You do not skimp on tires. Think about it. The turns, the on and off ramps, the lane changes, the grip, in the rain. PSSs FTW.

2112 is one of my favorite albums.

onzedge 05-17-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3200400)
:icon08: all seaons = no season

all season tires are okay on suv's sedans, minivans, station wagons, wheel barrow, etc.

Truth is written here...

MyZ4U2C 05-17-2015 09:49 PM

Anyone running with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3?? Like to hear how you like them and your impression of the handling in the rain? Luckily I only have 4k on these tires as it was a garage queen, been hunting for a new tire for the future. I am looking at the DWS and the Michelin PSS. Those of you who seem to love the PSS here, how do they hold up in the rain with wet roads/puddles?

In Utah, Im skeptical to just run summer tires all year round, I will park it for most of the winter. Snow comes at all sorts of times in Utah unexpectedly. As well as rain and hail.

kenchan 05-17-2015 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3200695)
RE11 for me.


:tup: me too. only the best for the Z. :D

onzedge 05-18-2015 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyZ4U2C (Post 3200750)
Anyone running with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3?? Like to hear how you like them and your impression of the handling in the rain? Luckily I only have 4k on these tires as it was a garage queen, been hunting for a new tire for the future. I am looking at the DWS and the Michelin PSS. Those of you who seem to love the PSS here, how do they hold up in the rain with wet roads/puddles?

In Utah, Im skeptical to just run summer tires all year round, I will park it for most of the winter. Snow comes at all sorts of times in Utah unexpectedly. As well as rain and hail.

I run these tires on my wife's Juke. No problem so far. I see no issue with them on the Z, considering the climate in which you live.

geddy lee 05-18-2015 12:01 PM

When I drive in the rain with my PSSs , its like I am on dry pavement, with turns, lane changes, etc.

However, just remember that the PSSs are a SUMMER tire and if they get really cold they will suck. Any summer tire will also be worthless in the snow. The 370 Z is like the worst car in the snow I have ever had, including my 350Z and my MKIV Supra.

GOBLUE 05-19-2015 09:23 AM

I've done quite a bit of research on summer tires, anticipating I'll need to replace the OE original tires soon. I like to read Tire Rack's reviews. They do thorough evaluations of traction (dry and wet), noise, etc. Also consider price and wear ratings.

I've already decided on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires when I'm ready to buy. For what it's worth, I also have a friend who races regularly, including Car and Driver One Lap (on road + circuit driving), and he strongly recommended the Michelin PSS which he has run on a BMW M3. Check out the Tire Rack review here:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174

MacCool 05-19-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOBLUE (Post 3202257)
I've done quite a bit of research on summer tires, anticipating I'll need to replace the OE original tires soon. I like to read Tire Rack's reviews. They do thorough evaluations of traction (dry and wet), noise, etc. Also consider price and wear ratings.

I've already decided on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires when I'm ready to buy. For what it's worth, I also have a friend who races regularly, including Car and Driver One Lap (on road + circuit driving), and he strongly recommended the Michelin PSS which he has run on a BMW M3. Check out the Tire Rack review here:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174

What I see from that graphic is a marginal improvement in mixed performance
7.64 for the S-04
7.84 for the PSS

Compared to a substantial price difference

$782.44 for a set of S-04
$1121.96 for a set of the PSS

GOBLUE 05-19-2015 11:55 AM

That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.

onzedge 05-19-2015 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOBLUE (Post 3202490)
That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.


imjello 05-19-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3199833)
Bridgestone S04. use 285/35/19 for the rear.

I am also looking at the s-04 285/35/19 for the rear, with the 265/35/19 in the front. I just wanted to check in for some opinions before I shipped them. All the threads I see make me believe they will fit fine on sport rays for DD :)

MacCool 05-19-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOBLUE (Post 3202490)
That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.

Yeh, it's a cost vs performance issue. My suspicion is that 99% of the Z owners can't drive their car well enough to even begin to take advantage of the marginal performance advantage of the PSS over the S-04.

OTOH, if we're talking about tread wear, the tread life implies real dollars, so if the PSS lasted twice as long as the S-04 (for example), they'd be a bargain despite the fact that a set of four is $340 more expensive. With a tread wear rating of 300 compared to 280 however....not even close.

MacCool 05-19-2015 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3202574)
I am also looking at the s-04 285/35/19 for the rear, with the 265/35/19 in the front. I just wanted to check in for some opinions before I shipped them. All the threads I see make me believe they will fit fine on sport rays for DD :)

When I bought my 2014 Z, I ditched the OEM RE050A's and put on the S-04s when the car had 5 miles on it. The S-04's were quieter than the OEM, and this early spring has demonstrated far better wet-road performance. As to dry road performance....I'm not a good enough driver to make use of any performance advantage of the PSS either. They would have been a complete waste of money for me.

jrb55gh 05-20-2015 07:57 PM

I have a 13 Z that came with Yokohama Advans. Good Grip but expensive to replace. I do a lot of straight line hard acceleration (without wheel spin). The rear Avans lasted 17k and the front Advans went 26k. I installed the PSS rear first and then the front with the stock size 225 and 245. PSS front has excellent cornering grip wet or dry. They have only 1k miles so it is too soon to judge the tire life. The PSS on the rear exhibit the same exceptional dry and wet grip as the fronts, but they lasted only 10k under the same spirited driving conditions as the Advans.

I replaced the rears with Goodrich (Michelin’s budget brand) g force sport comp2’s. So far they exhibit wet and dry grip similar to the PSS. They are priced about $75 less than the PSS. For a good comparison chart go to TireRack.com and input your size, select Summer Passenger Car tires and then check the Max Performance Summer and Ultra High Performance Summer. Another comparison between the S04 and the G force sport comp 2’s indicates they are very close in performance. The G force shows a bit more tire life, but rides a bit rougher with more noise. Another great way to compare tire characteristics is on the spider charts on the Tire Rack website. Let us know what you decide.

Happy hunting!

kenchan 05-20-2015 08:33 PM

You want to run asymetic tires on these cars due to its suspension design. Car runs lots of neg camber and need reinforced inner treads.

those BFG's are not.

cjwsrt6 05-20-2015 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOBLUE (Post 3202490)
That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.

Just do you know treadwear is a number given by the manufacturer and there is no "standard" so it's hard to compare those numbers especially if they're that close. And Michelin is usually top with tirerack but in my own conspiracy I think they give tirerack kick back as well. Don't get me wrong I think the ps2 is the best daily tire out there for performance but just a thought

onzedge 05-20-2015 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3204449)
You want to run asymetic tires on these cars due to its suspension design. Car runs lots of neg camber and need reinforced inner treads.

those BFG's are not.


kenchan 05-20-2015 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3204511)

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