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///PureSwank 01-08-2014 10:58 PM

Getting Dyno Tuned Tommorow.
 
1. Injen Longtube Cold Air Intakes
2. Full non resonated Fast Intention Cat Back Exhuasts
4. Stillen Headers
5. Stillen Non Resonated HFC's.

How much Power? Go.

Mustang Dyno I Believe.

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TerribleONE 01-08-2014 11:06 PM

So many variables (temp,humidity,setup of the dyno) but il guess 288WHP

///PureSwank 01-08-2014 11:09 PM

Looks like high 40 Into mid 50's. Raining lol

288whp is equivalent to what on a dyno jet? How much does a stock 370z make? According to magazines.

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DEpointfive0 01-08-2014 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2642962)
Looks like high 40 Into mid 50's. Raining lol

288whp is equivalent to what on a dyno jet? How much does a stock 370z make? According to magazines.

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I think he meant dynojet.

///PureSwank 01-08-2014 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2642964)
I think he meant dynojet.

288whp on a dyno jet? Or Mustang? I was hoping 300-320ish.....

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synolimit 01-08-2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2642971)
288whp on a dyno jet? Or Mustang? I was hoping 300-320ish.....

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Keep hoping haha.

You'll never really know. Mustangs get changed to much and read what ever you want. If you want 600Hp tell the tuner to click the mouse a few times on the computer.

If you want a real test, read this...tuner should be able to give you the numbers tomorrow from the log.

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Vazquez08 01-08-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2642971)
288whp on a dyno jet? Or Mustang? I was hoping 300-320ish.....

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My numbers were 280.42 whp and 243.86 torque stock on a dynojet

synolimit 01-08-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vazquez08 (Post 2642994)
My numbers were 280.42 whp and 243.86 torque stock on a dynojet

Without correction factor that can be wrong too.

Vazquez08 01-08-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2642996)
Without correction factor that can be wrong too.

Yea I mean every dyno will read different so we will never know the exact power were making but I'll take 280 stock over my old eclipse making 140 on the same dyno lol

///PureSwank 01-08-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vazquez08 (Post 2642994)
My numbers were 280.42 whp and 243.86 torque stock on a dynojet

So your telling me you made 280 stock and people predicting me doing 288 with all the mods listed? Wtf?

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Vazquez08 01-08-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2643014)
So your telling me you made 280 stock and people predicting me doing 288 with all the mods listed? Wtf?

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My buddy at the shop I go to told me that with a catback, intakes, and a good tune these cars will make 300 easy. So my guess would be over 300 just not sure how much more. I just got my car just after thanksgiving so I'm still researching and what not, but 288 seems too low

synolimit 01-09-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vazquez08 (Post 2643006)
Yea I mean every dyno will read different so we will never know the exact power were making but I'll take 280 stock over my old eclipse making 140 on the same dyno lol

Well if you tell us the correction factor we can keep things on the same playing field. Std reads higher.

synolimit 01-09-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2643014)
So your telling me you made 280 stock and people predicting me doing 288 with all the mods listed? Wtf?

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It's because you said mustang.

Again a tuner can show you whatever your little heart desires. Do you want 290? 300? 350? You name it, the dyno will show it.

Vazquez08 01-09-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2643048)
Well if you tell us the correction factor we can keep things on the same playing field. Std reads higher.

Just looked at the top of the chart and it says "CF:SAE Smoothing:5"
Idk what the correction factor is to be honest.

visconti 01-09-2014 12:17 AM

Dynojets are very similar dyno to dyno..

John

synolimit 01-09-2014 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vazquez08 (Post 2643060)
Just looked at the top of the chart and it says "CF:SAE Smoothing:5"
Idk what the correction factor is to be honest.

SAE targets like 77 degrees and a different pressure. So whether you dyno in winter or summer, high or low altitude, with the same car, same mods, you should read the same. Std targets 60 degrees and a higher pressure. So you're always going to read a higher number. Based off of drag racing trap speeds, we've all pretty much come to a conclusion std is incorrect because if you could produce those numbers you'd of trapped better than you did.

///PureSwank 01-09-2014 09:12 AM

So if I dyno 288whp on a mustang then dyno 320 on a dynojet with the exact same car. Go out an run it depending on how the car performs lets say trap speed, it'll determine which of those two dynos was more accurate with horsepower? And if so, then which dyno according to people who have DONE this, has been more accurate in reading horsepower according to their performance? Mustang or dyno?

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MacLean 01-09-2014 09:17 AM

Mustang Dyno are known to be heart breakers and there are a ton of variables to take into account on the Mustang Dyno settings. I have a tread titled Mustang Dyno and you will see that I had 274 whp & 220 torque in the beginning and a week later (almost 30 degree drop in temp, several hundred more miles on the mods) I had 298 whp & 248 torque.

There are a lot of factors to take into account when getting a dyno: the dyno itself, weather, gas (type/make), tire traction, ECU accustom to the mods, and extra. I think you will be in the range of my beginning & end whp/torque on the Mustang Dyno possibly. At the end of the day are you satisfied with what was done and can you tell a difference after the fact. I notice that you did not mention this nor did anyone ask this, but you have a tune/or going to get a tune?

///PureSwank 01-09-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 2643418)
Mustang Dyno are known to be heart breakers and there are a ton of variables to take into account on the Mustang Dyno settings. I have a tread titled Mustang Dyno and you will see that I had 274 whp & 220 torque in the beginning and a week later (almost 30 degree drop in temp, several hundred more miles on the mods) I had 298 whp & 248 torque.

There are a lot of factors to take into account when getting a dyno: the dyno itself, weather, gas (type/make), tire traction, ECU accustom to the mods, and extra. I think you will be in the range of my beginning & end whp/torque on the Mustang Dyno possibly. At the end of the day are you satisfied with what was done and can you tell a difference after the fact. I notice that you did not mention this nor did anyone ask this, but you have a tune/or going to get a tune?

Half of those mods have been installed. The other half will be installed along with a tune. The car currently has no uprev tune and will be getting one.

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MacLean 01-09-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2643426)
Half of those mods have been installed. The other half will be installed along with a tune. The car currently has no uprev tune and will be getting one.

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All right cool. After the tune put several hundred more miles and depending on the cost for a retune & the weather, I would recommend possibly getting a retune and you will more than likely see a difference.

NickTurnon 01-09-2014 09:56 AM

On a mustang dyno, I am guessing you'll put down 302 without a tune and 312-318 with a tune

synolimit 01-09-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2643412)
So if I dyno 288whp on a mustang then dyno 320 on a dynojet with the exact same car. Go out an run it depending on how the car performs lets say trap speed, it'll determine which of those two dynos was more accurate with horsepower? And if so, then which dyno according to people who have DONE this, has been more accurate in reading horsepower according to their performance? Mustang or dyno?

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Correct. Dynojet with SAE.

synolimit 01-09-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 2643418)
Mustang Dyno are known to be heart breakers and there are a ton of variables to take into account on the Mustang Dyno settings. I have a tread titled Mustang Dyno and you will see that I had 274 whp & 220 torque in the beginning and a week later (almost 30 degree drop in temp, several hundred more miles on the mods) I had 298 whp & 248 torque.

There are a lot of factors to take into account when getting a dyno: the dyno itself, weather, gas (type/make), tire traction, ECU accustom to the mods, and extra. I think you will be in the range of my beginning & end whp/torque on the Mustang Dyno possibly. At the end of the day are you satisfied with what was done and can you tell a difference after the fact. I notice that you did not mention this nor did anyone ask this, but you have a tune/or going to get a tune?

See someone messed with the settings.

Weather will not change a dyno set to SAE or STD. It recalculates whatever temp you're at and spits out the numbers based on if you were dynoing in 77 degrees or 60 degrees. Only uncorrected will you see the temp diff.

Gas on a NA car will do nothing. The chance of knock is very slim with a good tune so you'll see no difference.

Lol tire traction on a sub 250tq car is no issue. I've seen traction issues on 1200hp GTRs though.

There's no such thing as ecu accommodations. When you tune a car you flash the ecu and dyno. Flash, dyno, flash, dyno. The ecu is set to what its set at. You don't finish a tune and miraculously gain power the next day because the ecu decided to change itself. This is a myth. I've tuned enough and checked power enough day to day to prove this. If anything you lose power. Like when you get a CEL from test pipes after a few miles after a reset. The ecu is continually seeing things are not going right so it richens the mixture then boom, CEL. Now depending on the type of CEL, a hard or soft CEL, the ecu will dump a ton of fuel or just a little. Point is you lost power from it. Once the MAF fuel curve is set, its set. You can drive all day everyday and watch the MAF scale and it will not change. WOT is also not like closed loop within the ecu. WOT is what we're talking about here on a dyno and trust me, once you set it, its set! Your driving around having the ecu "accommodate" for mods is doing nothing for the open loop map settings.

JWillis72 01-10-2014 10:02 AM

So what did it do?

///PureSwank 01-10-2014 10:37 AM

It gets dynoed today. The pulley was not installed. They couldn't get it to budge AT ALL. They would have had to remove the entire front which would also add time and money. I dont think at this point that a pulley is worth that effort. So ill be getting dynoed with longtube intakes, full exhaust, high flow pipes, and headers. Ill post up

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ANMVQ 01-10-2014 02:03 PM

looking for numbers, Will be right around 320 WHP :)

///PureSwank 01-11-2014 08:58 PM

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JWillis72 01-11-2014 09:01 PM

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Good for you , I'm impressed!

///PureSwank 01-11-2014 09:05 PM

Forgot to mention this was at about 60 degree weather.

JWillis72 01-11-2014 09:08 PM

For a NA car you should be happy!

///PureSwank 01-11-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2647203)
For a NA car you should be happy!

I'm completely happy. I'ma leave it like this for the remainder of her life. I'm really want a GT-R and this 370z would be a perfect daily.

visconti 01-12-2014 11:47 PM

Do you have a overlay of the before and after ?


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///PureSwank 01-13-2014 10:49 AM

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Do you have a overlay of the before and after ?


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Unfortunately I dont. I already had long tube air intakes and full aftermarket exhaust installed way before they added headers and high flow cats. This was the first uprev tune ever.

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visconti 01-13-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2648881)
Unfortunately I dont. I already had long tube air intakes and full aftermarket exhaust installed way before they added headers and high flow cats. This was the first uprev tune ever.

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Ok so they didn't pull the car before adjusting the tune?

Just trying to figure out how much you gained

It's a nice Dyno sheet though


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///PureSwank 01-13-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2648890)
Ok so they didn't pull the car before adjusting the tune?

Just trying to figure out how much you gained

It's a nice Dyno sheet though


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They did not pull the car. And if they would have I already had I takes and a full exhausts so we would have never known the stock pull for my z. Yeah the torque line is nice. Straight across.

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ANMVQ 01-13-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2648916)
They did not pull the car. And if they would have I already had I takes and a full exhausts so we would have never known the stock pull for my z. Yeah the torque line is nice. Straight across.

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Really?? Usually they do a few pulls before they tune the car . I think that's what he looking for?

FPenvy 01-13-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2648963)
Really?? Usually they do a few pulls before they tune the car . I think that's what he looking for?

agreed. even though i showed up same as the OP with intakes and exhaust they still "baselined" my car with a few runs just to show my gains from the tune alone.

MacLean 01-13-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2648964)
agreed. even though i showed up same as the OP with intakes and exhaust they still "baselined" my car with a few runs just to show my gains from the tune alone.

:iagree: +1.....

///PureSwank 01-13-2014 04:03 PM

Okay, nah I never asked him to baseline it. He told me that is the highest his seen on his dyne. He also said that most dyne around 290-315hp depending on bolt ons. He was surprised with mine. He though something was wrong at first. I might throw in some bigger pipes. I want 340whp.

///PureSwank 01-13-2014 04:06 PM

Another question. If I do a MUFFLER DELETE would that hinder my performance?


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