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visconti 11-24-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2581336)
8,500 miles on the car. Ain't worth it.

Must have misread, thought you had more miles.

Uprev or EcuTek ?


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Vnismo370z 11-24-2013 07:32 PM

Uprev

synolimit 11-24-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2580825)

Mobil 1 is fine.

I'd have to dig and research more but we know these things "burn oil." Watery oil isn't good. You don't need a lab to see the pour rate out of the bottle. Based on a thinner oil flow rate and a motor notorious to lose some during OCI, I can't agree and say its fine. It might protect ok but you might end up spending more to refill and a number of other things that might happen which are just annoying.

Jordo! 11-25-2013 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2581663)
I'd have to dig and research more but we know these things "burn oil." Watery oil isn't good. You don't need a lab to see the pour rate out of the bottle. Based on a thinner oil flow rate and a motor notorious to lose some during OCI, I can't agree and say its fine. It might protect ok but you might end up spending more to refill and a number of other things that might happen which are just annoying.

I personally prefer Redline, based on the UOA's I was getting on my previous Z, where I was the original owner and responsible for break-in vs. "German" Castrol, but I don't recall any clear evidence of Mobil 1 being especially bad based on other folks' UOA's.

Are you going on something from the Oil Nerd's thread, BITOG or your own UOA's?

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Originally Posted by Vnismo370z (Post 2581086)
Mustang ... uprev

A couple of suggestions:

1. Mustangs can "break hearts" or "lift spirits" -- it all depends how they are calibrated. Don't get too wrapped up the absolute values -- look to see what you put down BEFORE tuning and then AFTER tuning.

I also advise you allow for three runs before AND after (i.e., 6 runs minimum in total) to give the ECU time to adjust to changes made to the target AFR map. Try to take all runs with oil temps between 180* F and 200* F. If it gets over 220* F (and it might), let it cool down before the next pull.

2. While you are there, ask for adjustment to the throttle maps to improve throttle response, turning the radiator fans on full bast a bit earlier (there's a few threads on each of these items) and if you have a 7AT, ask the tuner to firm up the shifts by adjusting the torque map.

Good luck! :tup:

Vnismo370z 11-25-2013 03:14 PM

6mt. and I have about 2 hours of dyno time. Clock stops on cool down periods.

TerribleONE 11-25-2013 03:19 PM

Did you change the flux capacitor?

phunk 11-25-2013 03:33 PM

i never once even removed my factory installed spark plugs until several several thousands of boosted miles, guessing maybe 20K boosted, and they looked like I should just put them back in.

I cant imagine a NA VHR needing plugs before 50,000 miles, if not way more.

TerribleONE 11-25-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2582569)
i never once even removed my factory installed spark plugs until several several thousands of boosted miles, guessing maybe 20K boosted, and they looked like I should just put them back in.

I cant imagine a NA VHR needing plugs before 50,000 miles, if not way more.

Wow I am surprised you had that many boosted miles on the stock plugs.. Maybe everyone is a little over paranoid about it?

phunk 11-25-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2582588)
Wow I am surprised you had that many boosted miles on the stock plugs.. Maybe everyone is a little over paranoid about it?

Yes everyone is way too paranoid about the wrong things. These cars simply need hardly anything to support all the power the stock engine is good for.

synolimit 11-27-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2581710)
I personally prefer Redline, based on the UOA's I was getting on my previous Z, where I was the original owner and responsible for break-in vs. "German" Castrol, but I don't recall any clear evidence of Mobil 1 being especially bad based on other folks' UOA's.

Are you going on something from the Oil Nerd's thread, BITOG or your own UOA's?

Why do you say German Castrol? You talking about M1 0-40 euro oil?

I'm going off my UOA. They weren't bad. Just not as pretty as RL. And with the thinness, in the WRX's, those motors just burned right though it. I used RL there too and never lost a drop. This is the first motor I'm actually losing oil between changes. Same break in etc so I don't know whats up. If I ran M1 I'd probably lose it all by 3000 miles.

Vnismo370z 11-27-2013 08:34 PM

I lose about a quart a change... Thanks you guys! Also new oil thread!!! Now to buy some redline... also OEM filter good enough?

Riptide67 11-27-2013 10:06 PM

I had a lil over 33k on my Z when I did UpRev. Drove my car for about 1,000 miles with FI exhaust, ART pipes, pulley, and G3's. I had Intec Racing check my plugs and they were ****. I had them changed out.

I didn't do my oil though since I had only put about 1,700 miles on the car since purchase. So the oil was still decent.

Riptide67 11-27-2013 10:10 PM

I'm interested in what you put down. I may swap out my ART pipes for FI LTHs.

andre12031948 11-27-2013 10:21 PM

I would say three Hail Mary's before the dyno pull
 
can't hurt ?

Jordo! 11-28-2013 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2585288)
Why do you say German Castrol? You talking about M1 0-40 euro oil?

I'm going off my UOA. They weren't bad. Just not as pretty as RL. And with the thinness, in the WRX's, those motors just burned right though it. I used RL there too and never lost a drop. This is the first motor I'm actually losing oil between changes. Same break in etc so I don't know whats up. If I ran M1 I'd probably lose it all by 3000 miles.

Yes the 0 wt. oil.

Eh... you might want to check the TSB on oil consumption. I don't know what role the particular oil you used played a role (if any), but this is a known problem that crops up from time to time...


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