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hell if i get a comitment from them that they will crack the VVEL or cvtc i'll snatch it up now to fund the rd, i contacted AAM about getting
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hell if i get a comitment from them that they will crack the VVEL or cvtc i'll snatch it up now to fund the rd, i contacted AAM about getting there unit with their tune but they haven't contacted me back and their website still says it's 695 and screw that.
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They will be tuning my car on Thursday...can't wait.
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Being you're in the business then you know a deaf, dumb, blind person can play mean pinball tuning a forced induction vehicle. They are tremendously more responsive to tuning especially if you can tweak the boost. More comparing apples to oranges and N/A to forced induction falls into that category. It ain't and never will be the same. [/QUOTE]We've been selling 370Z Cobb APs in the sponsor classifieds section for a few months now. How many have we sold? Answer - 8 That's nothing compared to the number we've sold for other cars (in the dozens). If 370Z enthusiasts realize the true benefits and effectiveness of the Cobb AP, they will see more maps developed for them, from Stage 1 basic intake bolt on, to Stage 4+ upgraded twin turbo reflash maps. They aren't that huge of a company, so they can't put as much time into their R&D as they'd like. They are thinking smart, and I would too. If more people purchase the Cobb APs, and email them more, we'll see more maps, and an decrease in time it takes to develop these maps as well. Just my .02 ![]() Regards, AJ ECS Motorsports[/QUOTE] My issue here is fourfold. 1. No company should be selling a product until it is ready and Cobb openly solicited 370Z business indicating they were ready to sell the unit. They originally scanned my car prior to get some of the initial ECU information. I purchased the unit only after they indicated it was ready for sale. Thinking smart is one thing, being ethical and doing the right thing is another. We are all human, that is not to say there will not be bugs in the first units built or improvements coming, however it simply should at least be able to do basic tunes if your openly asking people to purchase your product. 2. Let me get this right......You're on the supply/profit side asking people to spend money for something that doesn't work correctly hoping Cobb will put efforts into making it work correctly so you can sell more? How about just sending Cobb some of your cash and maybe they will make it work correctly so you can sell more of them. 3. Not a fan of canned tunes as they can be spot on, or way off. You need the specific vehicle on a dyno to objectively measure the gains and parameters contributing to making the gains. Again canned tunes do have certain have applications however, being once sponsored by a dyno shop it's something I've literally seen hundreds of times. 4. This goes back to tuning N/A applications and forced induction applications. Unless the factory tune is way off or the car is heavily modded (cams, heads, compression, strokers, etc,) you typically will not see drastic changes after tuning. Believe there might be an unrealistic expectation that simply ain't gonna be there. Truthfully, if all the software did for me was fuel/air @ wot, timing, rev limit and speed limit w/o adversely effecting anything else..I'd be a happy camper. Being one of the original people to purchase the unit and 9-10 months later still not working and finding it causes issues.......time to painfully say "no mas." The physicians creed is: "Above all, do no harm" This adverise effect on driving fuel/air ain't cutting it in my book at all. |
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Dude... No one else seems to be having the same problems you are. And don't get me wrong...I am sorry you have been so unsuccessful.
Have you tried called the guys at Cobb about this? I doubt they would give you the big F U. Altered Atmosphere, among other tuners have had plenty of success using the AP on the 370z. Altered Atmosphere told me that they have recieved several important AP updates over the past couple of months. Perhaps the issues you are having has been fixed?? Dunno...
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I've had my AP for nearly a year now and I feel like I've been cheated out of $700 (well technically only about $550 because I could have bought a good ScanGauge for about $150 that does what my AP currently does). I do have hope that COBB will eventually figure out the VVEL system and fix the other problems, and release staged maps but, honestly, my patience is running a bit thin. I'm actually thinking of trying to return the item or sell it to some 350Z owner. COBB - if you do read this, please know that there are actually A LOT MORE 370Z owners that would buy the AP if it had staged maps that showed some good gains. I think figuring out the VVEL system, along with fixing the tuning issues, is worth putting some more resources into, esp. since G37 owners will also benefit from this (and who knows what other Nissan/Infiniti cars the VVEL technology will be used in). |
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I've had my AP for nearly a year now and I feel like I've been cheated out of $700 (well technically only about $550 because I could have bought a good ScanGauge for about $150 that does what my AP currently does). I do have hope that COBB will eventually figure out the VVEL system and fix the other problems, and release staged maps but, honestly, my patience is running a bit thin. I'm actually thinking of trying to return the item or sell it to some 350Z owner.QUOTE] Share the exact same feeling. Converted the car back to stock programming and thrown away the manuals.. When do you say "enough is enough?" For me....now. Honest to god a nice guy, just fed up with all the BS. |
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I talked to Rob today and it is still good to go on the AP plus AAM tune for $500
I'm looking to purchase this shortly as well, and the mroe good things I hear about how beneficial it is, makes me want it more. |
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Your getting the AP and tune for 500?
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While I am glad someone is working on VVEL, in the meantime I think they should have released maps without any VVEL work to help keep people happy until then. Plus I am sure they could have charged an "upgrade" fee for the new map with VVEL unlocked.
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Hell yea.... Thats what i am saying... This is a great company and even though there product still has some bugs to be worked out, they are more than willing to lend a helping hand.
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Denny,
I personally have not recieved any emails from you, but we are looking into the messages you sent to the Plano facility, can you tell me what email addresses you sent these to? Also, we have noted the discrepency in your graph and the graphs we posted. We are looking into that as well. Finally, the graph I posted was intended to be your car vs. a stock 370z just as a reference point for power and AFR. Travis COBB Tuning |
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