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-   -   VVEL control unlocked (http://www.the370z.com/tuning/61400-vvel-control-unlocked.html)

Red__Zed 10-29-2012 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987635)
Spoke to GTM they have no idea about this.
This sounds familiar, where have I heard this?


http://www.the370z.com/tuning/61400-...nlocked-6.html

show2nite 10-29-2012 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1987700)
This sounds familiar, where have I heard this?


http://www.the370z.com/tuning/61400-...nlocked-6.html
Spoke to UPREV this so called break through is not factual according to Uprev and you and others can verify on UPREV FB page where the company provide their latest update. :bowrofl:

Red__Zed 10-29-2012 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987751)
Spoke to UPREV also this so called latest break through is not factual according to Uprev and you and others can on their FB page where the company provide their latest update. :bowrofl:
Their latest Facebook update says "grabbing some breakfast at the pepper mill."

I'm not sure what that signifies relative to this, perhaps you can interpret?

I don't really care one way or the other, but I find it doubtful you called both gtm and uprev about this.

show2nite 10-29-2012 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1987757)
Their latest Facebook update says "grabbing some breakfast at the pepper mill."

I'm not sure what that signifies relative to this, perhaps you can interpret?

I don't really care one way or the other, but I find it doubtful you called both gtm and uprev about this.
Bro I have no fcuking reason to lie over something so petty, you can call SAM or Mike or you can also call the technical dept for UPREV and ask for your sell instead of promoting Fool's Gold. :gtfo2:

Red__Zed 10-29-2012 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987764)
Bro I have no fcuking reason to lie over something so petty, you can called SAM or Mike or you can also called the technical dept for UPREV and ask for your sell instead of promoting Fool's Gold. :gtfo2:


English please.


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Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 1947667)
just an info that I got from Jared on the 13th Aug. copy/paste from my email.



No VVEL yet. We have one beta version that a few people have played with, but you have to be very careful because you CAN run the valves into the pistons with too much advance and lift at the same time (there is a interference safety table that should NOT be adjusted).

We're also still missing what controls the advance. It's much more active on these engines so it appears to be controlled by a formula not a table.

show2nite 10-29-2012 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1987772)
English please.
Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.:stirthepot: Thanks :tiphat: And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?:rolleyes:

O&G 10-29-2012 02:48 PM
someone needs to read the entire thread very slowly and not be so angry! Key words to look for: beta version and pro tuners. I thought we were well past this phase in the thread, lol.

gomer_110 10-29-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987789)
Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.:stirthepot: Thanks :tiphat: And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?:rolleyes:
I smell a troll.

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show2nite 10-29-2012 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1987792)
someone needs to read the entire thread very slowly and not be so angry! Key words to look for: beta version and pro tuners. I thought we were well past this phase in the thread, lol.
I will respect the thread history, allow me to gracefully bow out!

Spikuh 10-29-2012 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987789)
Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.:stirthepot: Thanks :tiphat: And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 1987789)
Whenever there is a big change to the software Jared @ Uprev sends an email to all protuners letting them know the details.

I know of no such email.

I find it hard to believe that uprev would release some new software to only one protuner and not the rest... especially one that isn't even one of their bigger customers.. (forged, GTM, R/T, etc)
He works at uprev it seems.

Red__Zed 10-29-2012 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1987789)
Feel free to hold on to something that is not finalized or yet in production to do as you claim.

And my typo's where corrected. before your latest response.:stirthepot: Thanks :tiphat: And does Jared work for UPREV.........or is he a tuner?:rolleyes:
I think you are very confused about what is being discussed.

gabe3d 10-29-2012 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1987429)
ya excpet there vvti works NOTHING like our our VVEL... in absolutely no way, shape, or form would any technology unlocked by toyota tuners translate to our cars. the ONLY similarity between the 2 is that they changed valve timing... thats it. thats like comparing our cars to the bmw vanos system. it makes no sense to go on and on about who called the damn system a vvt, vvti, or vvtlmnop... who cares. it has nothing to do with our engine, VVEL, or the tuning we have to do to it
Since you didn't quite comprehend what was previously posted. I'll summarize for you.

Nissan VVEL, BMW Valvetronic and Toyota Valvematic achieve the same in regards to continuous lift control.

Nissan VTC, BMW Vanos and Toyota VVT achieve the same in regards to timing control.

Unless if we have the Einstein of tuning working on our platform it's safe to say that the average tuner's skills is unilaterally equal on all platforms.

O&G's result's are good and are expected since turbo's performance are highly affected by timing change when moving over from an NA setup. The exciting part is when they start changing lift, otherwise the tuning capability will be same as an HR head swap.

asdfsammich 10-30-2012 12:44 AM
Nice synopsis! Saved me tons of reading.

I did notice a comment, a few posts up, that sounded interesting, even for NA guys.

So, stupid question. It seemed like folks were implying VVEL tuning may include throttle control disabling via ECU? Or, did misinterpret?




Tapatalk & such etc

Spikuh 10-30-2012 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 1988726)
Nice synopsis! Saved me tons of reading.

I did notice a comment, a few posts up, that sounded interesting, even for NA guys.

So, stupid question. It seemed like folks were implying VVEL tuning may include throttle control disabling via ECU? Or, did misinterpret?




Tapatalk & such etc
It sounded like there was a way to make the electronic throttle behave like a cable throttle, but in doing so you lose the SynchroRev feature.

SS_Firehawk 10-30-2012 10:13 AM
It might use the throttle map to rev match accurately. I didn't know SRM was so deep in the vehicle. It could be why it took so long for any one manufacturer to bring it to market. Even now, I think BMW may be the only other one that has it on one of their models.


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