In for updates.

So... no news :(

We are going to wait a long time for this. Insider information.
If GTM made it i would have it.
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Lmao.... Relaaaax, I think emails are more than acceptable. Nobody wants to feel like people are breathing down their back. :)

You're kind of in a different position.

:(

Don't worry. By the time VVEL is cracked and a tuning solution is offered, there will be a different engine in the Z and most on this forum would have sold theirs off.

What sucks is Cobb would have done good things they just didn't have the time or people to keep up on the Z platform. I talked to Christian @ Cobb about a month ago and did state that there is power to be had through vvel tuning. I can post the conversation when I'm home , it was from mazdaspeedforums which I still occasionally visit.

Edit: here ya go

. Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256Re: Why did Cobb abandon the 370z/G37 Originally Posted by Deadman What are your thoughts on cracking VVEL? Any power to be had N/A or no? Thanks dude

I am sure that power is to be had there. We simply did not have enough engineers to effectively reverse engineer those platforms and provide excellent customer service. We cannot make a product without being able to back it the way we want to. We have to also be able to provide superior customer service to back it up. Christian.

O well one day something may come from someone :)

Shoulda woulda coulda. They gave up because it was too difficult.

Eh took them 3 years to rlly get the Mazda ecu cracked .. they would hit a wall of like 390 awhp no matter what psi and no matter how big the turbo... Finally it turned out to be a load table or something that broke them free. Whatever the reason , someone can probably step up and get this done. Maybe uprev , Gtm.. who knows .

Uprev & GTM are both working on it, Cobb dumped all NA cars to return to its roots (factory boosted cars). Which honestly was the best choice they could have made, lets them focus more for better results and customer support.

Might be in some interest for people to start bugging the stand alone companies who did well with the 350z and see if they are working on the 370z & VVEL.

More likely because there is no money in it.

Nah, your the only one that hates his Z. The rest would have payed alot of money for whatever they came out with (as long as it showed decent gains.)

Problem is, there's like 30k or so z's, and only a small portion of people would buy it. Even if they kept their crack proprietary, the market is minuscule. In reality, the crack would be easy to reverse engineer, thus leaving them with nothing to recoup their cost.


The ecu doesn't appear that difficult to get through. I think a couple friends and I could have it done with a month of full time work... But that's at least $20-50k worth of a good engineer's time, not really practical.

Not at all on subject, but how the hell did you get 339 whp off those upgrades??? Thats unbelievably amazing. As in im not sure I believe it:ugh2:

Factory freak The dyno, not the car

Weaksauce dyno...

339 to the wheels on a Mustang. Me and three other Z's all made similar numbers within 2-3hp. I have the graphs print-outs etc. Thats what the dyno said after 5+ runs thats what I write in my Sig.

Again off subject, but call me crazy, I thought mustang dynos read 10% or so LOWER than dynojets. That would mean on a dynojet you would test at roughly 373whp. Those numbers sound crazy!!! Im not callin you a liar something just sounds off. Sorry again to be off topic.

Mustand dyno can read either Low OR High depending on the setting the user put in .

So his number is just a reference on that dyno where he used it ...

I unlock VVEL everytime I start my car. It's about the best your going to get. :icon17:

Did you use a cheat code?
Left/Right/Left/Right/Up/Down/Start/Select?

Yeah but you have to remember to tap the gas twice, then brake three times, and then floor it.

Actually its up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,B,A,select,s tart to be exact.

mustangs either high or low, depending on how they are calibrated. this one was calibrated to attract customers.

I know, but this is Nissan, not Konami.
Nissan has to keep this simple sometimes. :p

Lol +1 for knowing Konami made Contra:tup:

I think there's one shop in the NY area which has a dyno that reads high. Not sure which one it is, but he probably went there :p

Contra was awesome. Also used on the game LifeForce

Lol, again +1 for loving Contra! Dont recall LifeForce though.

My brother and I would play all the time. He had the spread gun and I always had the lazer.

Wait I thought it was IDDQD IDKFA. God mode and all weapons beats vvel unlock anyday!

Love the spread, oh wait, my bad, back to Contra.

Lol, well said!!! Ha ha.

Was it one of the 1/4 mile time threads or a separate one. If so any idea what section if was in or what it was titled.

I went like 2 months ago under the same conditions (100+ temps and high humidity) and ran a 13.4 with just my exhaust. Maybe it was the inexperience for you? It was only my 3rd day ever at a drag strip so I'm not exactly a pro either. Was that with your current setup or did you have less mods back then?

:bowrofl:

IBTL

Dont remeber the title. I can find it but not now its to late LOL. I ran so bad prob cause I have never ever been on a track before. Me and the other Z's where actually some of the fastest cars there and none of us besides Chuck did faster then a 13.8. We had better times then a couple of new SS Camaros, every GT stang that was there, a Last Body style Trans Am and a SRT8 Chanllenger. And it was with my current mods.

Hmmm maybe the track sucked. I was definitely doing better than the Camaro SS's too last time.

Yea prob. Chuck got a 12.9. He was able to do that without his gears and street slicks last time he went. I knew it was going to be a bad day especially when Chuck texted me (I was following him to the track) and said "does your out side air temp say 104?" "yea" I said "oh ok, thought mine was broken LOL"

Quick question, did you make the 339whp on the Performance Motorsport dyno? I only say that because even they admit it runs a little high although they have tried to calibrate it many times. I made 338whp with a lot less than what you have posted and an UpRev tune. I hope it wasn't the Performance Motorsport dyno and not trying to bash bro but I wouldn't post their numbers. Alex told me that the important thing isn't the dyno is the delta and the improved driveability.

I don't think that was you on the bimmer forums, whoever it was, clearly you like be a troll and coming off as a fake 370z owner. I know this forum is full of guys who have moved on past the Z and that is there choice but don't go on spreading a bad rep for us Z drivers. I drive a Z that stands out wherever it goes, I've had my fair share of stupid moments with e92 m3's and on two occasions I've come away smiling but that's just me. BMW guys and Z guys are different animals, all my buddies are BMW guys and all of them drive the newer models because of the prestige and flash associated with, however each and every single one of them have admitted its not a drivers car.

Just an update for people who are still curious. Sam has said that they are not working on cracking the VVEL. This is what he said in the stage 2 supercharger press release: