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Kingbaby 05-27-2011 04:37 PM

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b1adesofcha0s 05-27-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1136991)
For which solution?

You could get a supercharged 5.0 for speed, a tuned 335, or buy a z and my old s2k...

A good all around car. Say you were to have one car after you move and you had $50k to spend, what would YOU get?

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1136996)
Who made this about price? I didn't, you did!

There is no doubting the M3. It pwns all when it comes to bang for buck :icon17:

dark_nismo 05-27-2011 07:05 PM

My next car will be the upcoming M3.. all black, under warranty, fast beauty! For now my slightly modded 370z Nismo is it for me...
but the only way to know the answer to the question originally posted is to run both cars 10x and see who comes on top more..
slightly modded 370z vs e92 M3
I place my money on the M3! just my .02

b1adesofcha0s 05-27-2011 07:11 PM

The thing that I would hate about buying any high end luxury (brand) car brand new is how quickly its value tanks. This is especially true for the more expensive, higher performance models. That's why I would never buy one new, I would get one slightly used and covered with an extended warranty if I was to get one :tup:

jnaut 05-27-2011 07:22 PM

the m3 is not the fast, as one wanted a piece of my z. Its was one of those fancy automatics... he was pissed/surprised. It has a good look but kinda dated. 80k new 1 yr old 50k no thanks for that resale value...

plus for 65k ill take the cts-v...rollin 5 deep with550 hp yes plz

Red__Zed 05-27-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1137053)
A good all around car. Say you were to have one car after you move and you had $50k to spend, what would YOU get?



There is no doubting the M3. It pwns all when it comes to bang for buck :icon17:

Exactly 50K? I might get a euro delivery m3, or a 335i with mods.

Another alternative would be picking up like a 5.0 mustang with a supercharger. Or a mustang + a turbo s2000.

Red__Zed 05-27-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1136477)
I don't understand. Jnaut and ZEliminator did not run their times under "perfect conditions" - they were able to consistently run mid-low 12s with their current setup. You make it seem like these kinds of times are flukes or something. Not sure why you're trying to discredit the car, exactly.

And it's not like I'm saying it's beastly in stock form. I'm specifically talking about a modded car like theirs.

Just as a note-- ideal conditions can mean a lot of things. I think running in FL helps a lot with times. My S trapped almost 5mph faster in southern GA than it does up in VA... just saying.

Also, having guys like Jnaut driving is an "ideal condition". Put him behind the wheel of the M3, and it will likely lay a better time.

b1adesofcha0s 05-27-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1137206)
Exactly 50K? I might get a euro delivery m3, or a 335i with mods.

Another alternative would be picking up like a 5.0 mustang with a supercharger. Or a mustang + a turbo s2000.

Not exactly, just in that range. What about if you bump the range up to $100k (which is hopefully what my next car purchase will be) with the possibility of a beater DD car. My personal choices are new GT-R or used Lambo/Ferrar/R8. What do you think?

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1137208)
Just as a note-- ideal conditions can mean a lot of things. I think running in FL helps a lot with times. My S trapped almost 5mph faster in southern GA than it does up in VA... just saying.

Also, having guys like Jnaut driving is an "ideal condition". Put him behind the wheel of the M3, and it will likely lay a better time.

Is better times in FL due to elevation, weather conditions, or something else?

Red__Zed 05-27-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1137217)
Not exactly, just in that range. What about if you bump the range up to $100k (which is hopefully what my next car purchase will be) with the possibility of a beater DD car. My personal choices are new GT-R or used Lambo/Ferrar/R8. What do you think?



Is better times in FL due to elevation, weather conditions, or something else?

I honestly wouldn't buy any of those cars. Let's discuss further in the conference room, as to minimize thread derailment.


Better times mostly due to elevation.

b1adesofcha0s 05-27-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1137222)
I honestly wouldn't buy any of those cars. Let's discuss further in the conference room, as to minimize thread derailment.


Better times mostly due to elevation.

Cool. Let's move this convo then.

1slow370 05-27-2011 08:51 PM

it's all about shifting mang if you can shift real fast you can beat anything.

Red__Zed 05-27-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 1137329)
it's all about shifting mang if you can shift real fast you can beat anything.

I heard it was all about confidence.

jnaut 05-27-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 1137329)
it's all about shifting mang if you can shift real fast you can beat anything.

I shifty de car, betty betty quik

b1adesofcha0s 05-27-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jnaut (Post 1137391)
I shifty de car, betty betty quik

I shifty de car wid a click click click :icon17:

1slow370 05-28-2011 12:01 PM

Lame i was expecting an F&F quote from you guys lol Does it really matter if we can or can't beat a bimmer or a merc? this isn't a **** swinging competition, and everybody knows it's only damn 5.0's anyone really cares about

ZKraken22 08-08-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1136981)
For under 100k, I don't see how one could go wrong with an M3. Oh, I'm sorry, wrong thread.

M3 is over rated. The mustang Laguna seca beats your 80k M3. Plus when it comes to price the m3 is the GTR,Z06 range... The M3 is a nice 5.0 mustang that has more detail thats it.

ZKraken22 08-08-2011 06:38 PM

A NA Z could not beat a C63. A NA Z running 320/330 to the wheels can beat a 6mt M3
now a DCT is fast so it would be close. A 370Z 6 speed running 310 to the wheels got beat by a ISF that had exhaust and intake but only got beat by half a car. That same ISF beat a 6 speed E92 M3 by two cars. M3 wouldnt run the 370z!!!
So from what i saw that night if a 310 RWHP 370z did that good... then a 320/330 RWHP NA Z will beat a Stock M3,ISF,SS,5.0, ect no problem. and if you have the 7AT then your gonna be even faster. So Yes NA Z can beat a M3!!

335i are even beating m3's!

Cmike2780 08-08-2011 06:45 PM

lol

Red__Zed 08-08-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 1251376)
A NA Z could not beat a C63. A NA Z running 320/330 to the wheels can beat a 6mt M3
now a DCT is fast so it would be close. A 370Z 6 speed running 310 to the wheels got beat by a ISF that had exhaust and intake but only got beat by half a car. That same ISF beat a 6 speed E92 M3 by two cars. M3 wouldnt run the 370z!!!
So from what i saw that night if a 310 RWHP 370z did that good... then a 320/330 RWHP NA Z will beat a Stock M3,ISF,SS,5.0, ect no problem. and if you have the 7AT then your gonna be even faster. So Yes NA Z can beat a M3!!

335i are even beating m3's!

ImportConvert Jr.

birdmanx1 08-08-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 1251376)
A NA Z running 320/330 to the wheels can beat a 6mt M3 - "Driver of M3 drunk?"
...M3 wouldnt run the 370z!!! - "Again driver of M3 drunk?"
...So Yes NA Z can beat a M3!! - "Drunk M3 driver?"

335i are even beating m3's! - Wow, pants on fire

http://i30.tinypic.com/2u5dgqx.jpg

b1adesofcha0s 08-08-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1251391)
ImportConvert Jr.

:icon18: :iagree:

cossie1600 08-08-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 1251376)
A NA Z could not beat a C63. A NA Z running 320/330 to the wheels can beat a 6mt M3
now a DCT is fast so it would be close. A 370Z 6 speed running 310 to the wheels got beat by a ISF that had exhaust and intake but only got beat by half a car. That same ISF beat a 6 speed E92 M3 by two cars. M3 wouldnt run the 370z!!!
So from what i saw that night if a 310 RWHP 370z did that good... then a 320/330 RWHP NA Z will beat a Stock M3,ISF,SS,5.0, ect no problem. and if you have the 7AT then your gonna be even faster. So Yes NA Z can beat a M3!!

335i are even beating m3's!

Is that ricer math?

Red__Zed 08-08-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1251391)
ImportConvert Jr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1251587)
Is that ricer math?

^^^^

FL 4Motion 08-08-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 1251376)
A NA Z could not beat a C63. A NA Z running 320/330 to the wheels can beat a 6mt M3
now a DCT is fast so it would be close. A 370Z 6 speed running 310 to the wheels got beat by a ISF that had exhaust and intake but only got beat by half a car. That same ISF beat a 6 speed E92 M3 by two cars. M3 wouldnt run the 370z!!!
So from what i saw that night if a 310 RWHP 370z did that good... then a 320/330 RWHP NA Z will beat a Stock M3,ISF,SS,5.0, ect no problem. and if you have the 7AT then your gonna be even faster. So Yes NA Z can beat a M3!!

335i are even beating m3's!

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1251391)
ImportConvert Jr.

/\ none of the above matters, what we all want to know is how did a trans am ws6 fair in that race????


:p

Red__Zed 08-09-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1251826)
/\ none of the above matters, what we all want to know is how did a trans am ws6 fair in that race????


:p

Well, I saw one pull three buslengths on a g20, so....

Z eliminator 08-09-2011 08:42 AM

Im getting the Torque converter reworked this winter, I still can not hold it past 1900 rpm. the mods that are done to it have taken me from 12.85 to 12.42's. But once they set the stall to 3500 to 3800 rpm's it will make the car go easy 12.2 's.
plus i have 2 more things to do the car before the stage 2 GTM goes on the car with 11 lbs boost.
its really going to turn some low 1/4 mile times then.
i will let you guy estimate how quick it will go with 500 to 515 rwhp, vs the 309 it has now.
please be free to post . Thanks Z

doublea2527 08-09-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1136984)
Don't apologize, you're absolutely correct. It is the best bang for buck supercar under $100k :roflpuke2:

Viper maybe? lol

theDreamer 08-09-2011 08:50 AM

:drama:

b1adesofcha0s 08-09-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by doublea2527 (Post 1252049)
Viper maybe? lol

No way. M3 is definitely the best bang for buck supercar under $100k :rofl2:
Not really, it's just a forum joke :P

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1252051)
:drama:

:yum:

theDreamer 08-09-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1252053)
No way. M3 is definitely the best bang for buck supercar under $100k :rofl2:
Not really, it's just a forum joke :P



:yum:

:stirthepot:

b1adesofcha0s 08-09-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1252054)
:stirthepot:

Ok I lied, the M3 really is the best :stirthepot:

Red__Zed 08-09-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1252058)
Ok I lied, the M3 really is the best :stirthepot:

I heard it on the Internet, it must be true. M3 is the best bang for buck supercar under 100k, and mod for mod.

I didnt bring money into this....who's talking modded cars... You guys are putting words in my mouth.

b1adesofcha0s 08-09-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1252062)
I heard it on the Internet, it must be true. M3 is the best bang for buck supercar under 100k, and mod for mod.

I didnt bring money into this....who's talking modded cars... You guys are putting words in my mouth.

I'm really craving for a tea party right now :yum:

wh1te370z 08-09-2011 09:37 AM

this isnt a "kill story" bc i never went over the speed limit lol.

Yesterday some kool kid and his buddy wanted to race me in his new m3. driving down the road kids next to me pulling away slowing down, pullung away slowing down. I control myself and let him think hes kool. we both get stuck at a red light kids reving his engine blah blah. i had to turn at the next light which was like 500-800ft away. so i figure what the heck id do a two gear pull w the kid. ac off, trac control off. build revs. light turns green, take off. by the time i was half way through second the kid was 4 cars behind me. he did his ricer flyby and he lost.

its all about the driver.

i have no idea why he wanted to race me. i mean what drew his attention to my car?
http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/photo3-7.jpg

:bowrofl:

cossie1600 08-09-2011 10:01 AM

e92 m3?

drag racing is hardly about the driver....

b1adesofcha0s 08-09-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1252137)
e92 m3?

drag racing is hardly about the driver....

Does still require some driver skill. A crappy driver in a faster car will still lose.

Red__Zed 08-09-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1252143)
Does still require some driver skill. A crappy driver in a faster car will still lose.

I disagree. See your sig for proof :p

b1adesofcha0s 08-09-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1252151)
I disagree. See your sig for proof :p

:mad:

( Click to show/hide )
:rofl2:

GZ3 08-09-2011 10:12 AM

lol...an M3 will walk a modded 370 8 out 10 times

people should really stop living vicariously through jnaut and Z elim

Red__Zed 08-09-2011 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1252159)
lol...an M3 will walk a modded 370 8 out 10 times

people should really stop living vicariously through jnaut and Z elim

Those other 2 times, the m3 driver is at a Starbucks.


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