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COBB Tuning 07-06-2010 02:24 PM

COBB Tuning AccessPORT Product Line Consolidation
 
COBB Tuning is announcing a restructuring of the AccessPORT product line in order to better align our internal resources with our core markets. Effective immediately, COBB Tuning is discontinuing development of AccessPORTs for the naturally aspirated Nissan 350Z and 370Z. Other naturally aspirated platforms affected by this restructuring include the Honda Civic Si, Infiniti G35 & G37, Mazda RX-8 and Subaru 2.5i & 2.5RS. Development for the Nissan GT-R is unaffected by this announcement. This refocus of resources and efforts will ensure that COBB Tuning can provide the high level of service each individual AccessPORT platform requires going forward.

This means that AccessPORT firmware, AccessTUNER (Pro and Race) software and Off-The-Shelf calibrations for the Nissan 350Z and 370Z have reached their final levels of development and customers may continue to use them in their current forms. AccessPORTs for the 350Z and 370Z will remain available for purchase for the next 30 days. AccessPORT hardware will remain under warranty 1 year from the date of purchase and repair services will remain available should your AccessPORT require service. COBB Off-The-Shelf maps and AccessTUNER software will remain available for download from the COBB Tuning website at their current version levels.

At COBB Tuning, we are committed to our customers' satisfaction with our products. In light of this change of product support, we are extending our AccessPORT Satisfaction Guarantee to 90-days from the date of purchase for the Nissan 350Z and extending it to 12 months for the Nissan 370Z. Please click on this link to learn more about our AccessPORT Satisfaction Guarantee.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this announcement, or you wish to learn more about COBB Tuning products, please contact one of our Customer Service agents at 801.713.0035 or support@cobbtuning.com.

NewlyIMPORTed 07-06-2010 02:28 PM

What? wow this is not good news

STi 5 07-06-2010 02:29 PM

wow, just wow! I guess since you couldn't crack the VVEL, you just give up all together. I understand the idea of spreading yourself too thin, and how that is not great for business, but to just give up all together, I am stunned. I guess UPRev should be excited about having a monoply now. Watch prices go up up and away.

pty370z 07-06-2010 02:37 PM

Not cool at all... :shakes head::shakes head:

I was planning on buying an AccessPORT VERY soon.. Now I'm not so sure about it...

Brazilbro 07-06-2010 02:46 PM

Smart on their part I guess.. There really isn't much gain in tuning via piggy back systems on N/A platforms. Even the best map would get you maybe 10-15 WHP compared to 25-50whp or more on F.I. cars.

Joseph B 07-06-2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pty370z (Post 608785)
Not cool at all... :shakes head::shakes head:

I was planning on buying an AccessPORT VERY soon.. Now I'm not so sure about it...

2nd that.

LiquidZ 07-06-2010 02:59 PM

VVEL > Cobb

NewlyIMPORTed 07-06-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 608827)
VVEL > Cobb

:bowrofl: but yeah i was about to buy too but i don't mess with discontinued products but best of luck COBB

m4a1mustang 07-06-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 608827)
VVEL > Cobb

:iagree:

Endgame 07-06-2010 03:06 PM

I have not installed my Cobb AP, but am still glad I got it, and would get it again for the 370Z. I did not want a crazy tune, just something to put me on par with the Nismo Z. I will continue to focus on weight reduction!!

Jamaica 07-06-2010 03:09 PM

damn

MMC Racing 07-06-2010 03:13 PM

Having bought the G37 AP only to find out after that it wouldn't work on a 2009 with 7AT trans, this only validates the lack of commitment to the platform for our vehicles. (This was BEFORE they listed it on their website as not working with my car). I lost $200 on the deal since it was dragged out with promises of supporting my car long past the return date - I ended up having to sell it to someone with a 6MT.

This will hopefully provide greater economic incentive for other companies to work on the G37/370z ECUs.

tanamerra 07-06-2010 03:22 PM

Disappointing news.

WShade 07-06-2010 03:46 PM

I hated to hear this.

RCZ 07-06-2010 03:57 PM

I lolled...

ScGRaceR 07-06-2010 05:30 PM

too bad

Zsteve 07-06-2010 06:03 PM

I say POOH on Cobb as when they first came out with the thing they were promising this and that and now they cant deliver they just up and leave those that bought it. Big deal on the 1 yr warrenty. You get someone to buy something on a future promise and when it whoops thier butt, they tuck it and run. Well atleast AAM came out with a canned tune that helped some and the AccesPort can be used as a diag ting too.

I will say this, I will never buy anything from Cobb again.

Hey Cobb how about a full refund on the AccessPort since you couldnt deliver what you said?

tomnavone 07-06-2010 06:39 PM

:iagree: thanks for stringing us along. Wont get my business again. Fool me once.... :gtfo2:

hybridnation 07-06-2010 07:42 PM

Still got uprev.

Kastley85891 07-06-2010 08:19 PM

Glad I tune myself - I do run AP though lol

nolan1016 07-06-2010 09:15 PM

Makes you wonder if they were ever even working on it...

Kastley85891 07-06-2010 09:18 PM

Not very well handled that is for sure - could have done better , It seems customer relations is not a strong point, which considering some of the guys that work for them is surprising

Mozen 07-07-2010 05:15 AM

So wait, All this really means tho is you wont get any maps from COBB anymore right? you can still buy the AP and get your car tuned at a decent shop and benefit from it. Biggest issue for a lot of people is getting their A/F mix right after throwing on a stack of bolt on parts + the few with the $$ for F.I.

Correct me if im wrong! :)

bumblez 07-07-2010 05:32 AM

So.. Is that mean Cobb will not release any firmware for 2010 370z?:eek:
Damn...I bought my ap and was unable to installed because I have 2010 ecu on my 09 370z. My dealer had swapped because of highpitch noise from 09 ecu...

1slow370 07-07-2010 05:37 AM

ah hell now that just blows. i was hoping they would add vvel tuning as uprev also announced that VVEL>Uprev what half a year ago? both companies suck as neither has the ability to crack the vvel on these engines. My question is what are all these half-a$$ed companies going to do when the OEM manufacturers start making everything that hard with the releases of obdIII and can2?

370Zsteve 07-07-2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 609948)
uprev also announced that VVEL>Uprev what half a year ago? both companies suck as neither has the ability to crack the vvel on these engines.

What if it is impossible to crack? Do both companies still suck?

You can still use both and get a custom tune.

You can still use both to measure A/F

You can still use both to reset CEL's, etc

flashburn 07-07-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumblez (Post 609947)
So.. Is that mean Cobb will not release any firmware for 2010 370z?:eek:
Damn...I bought my ap and was unable to installed because I have 2010 ecu on my 09 370z. My dealer had swapped because of highpitch noise from 09 ecu...

Try the beta software update. It's an option in the AP Updater software. It added support for the 2010 ECU for my 2009. I was able to apply my AAM tune with it.

theDreamer 07-07-2010 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 609948)
ah hell now that just blows. i was hoping they would add vvel tuning as uprev also announced that VVEL>Uprev what half a year ago? both companies suck as neither has the ability to crack the vvel on these engines. My question is what are all these half-a$$ed companies going to do when the OEM manufacturers start making everything that hard with the releases of obdIII and can2?

Well when I pressured Uprev on the topic of VVEL they still stand behind the idea they will not do it, unless a part which will take advantage of it is produced. As of right now, the risk v. reward on stock parts is to great, and while I would like to see VVEL control for the masses it would be best to have parts which can actually take proper advantage of it.

COBB Tuning 07-07-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 609269)
I say POOH on Cobb as when they first came out with the thing they were promising this and that and now they cant deliver they just up and leave those that bought it. Big deal on the 1 yr warrenty. You get someone to buy something on a future promise and when it whoops thier butt, they tuck it and run. Well atleast AAM came out with a canned tune that helped some and the AccesPort can be used as a diag ting too.

I will say this, I will never buy anything from Cobb again.

Hey Cobb how about a full refund on the AccessPort since you couldnt deliver what you said?

Zsteve,

We realize that we informed the 370Z community that OTS maps were on the way and that we did not deliver. Because of this, we have extended the AccessPORT Satisfaction Guarantee for the 370Z to 12 months from the date of purchase as mentioned in the original post. This means that if you wish to return your 370Z AccessPORT, you can.

As others have pointed out, the AccessPORT is will continue to work as it has in the past as a hand-held ECU manager that can be pro-tuned or self-tuned, read and clear DTCs, datalog and perform as a digital gauge. AccessTUNER Race will remain available online for download should anyone want to begin self-tuning that hasn't had the opportunity to try earlier.

Gary

red6spd 07-07-2010 09:33 AM

When it comes time to tune my car I was crossed between Cobb or UpRev... Guess they just made my choice alot easier. When I owned my Altima Tein did something just like this to us. They told us since the economy was so messed up they were not gonna make any products for our car for a while and focus on products that sell more. I understood them it was an Altima, but to ditch the Z???? that seems like a bad move.

COBB Tuning 07-07-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 609945)
So wait, All this really means tho is you wont get any maps from COBB anymore right? you can still buy the AP and get your car tuned at a decent shop and benefit from it. Biggest issue for a lot of people is getting their A/F mix right after throwing on a stack of bolt on parts + the few with the $$ for F.I.

Correct me if im wrong! :)

Mozen,

That is correct. Essentially the AccessPORT for the 370Z is in its final state. The latest version of firmware and AccessTUNER Race software will remain available for download. Pro tuners can continue to tune AccessPORT equipped vehicles. The 1 year warranty remains in effect and repair services will continue to be available.

Gary

tanamerra 07-07-2010 09:59 AM

UpRev tune
 
Have any of you 2010 Z or Nismo owners had your car UpRev tuned? Results?

efuseakay 07-07-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 609953)
What if it is impossible to crack? Do both companies still suck?

You can still use both and get a custom tune.

You can still use both to measure A/F

You can still use both to reset CEL's, etc

Nothing is impossible to crack. Nothing.

djpathfinder 07-10-2010 05:29 PM

Don't forget, Cobb AP is not compatible with 2010 models.

370Zsteve 07-10-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 610178)
Nothing is impossible to crack. Nothing.

Knock yourself out, let me know how things go.

JvKintheUSA 07-11-2010 08:12 PM

Well, I got my AP a few weeks ago and I am glad I got it. I definitely feel more torque - not sure about the HP, but next Saturday I am going to Forged to do another Dyno run.

bluestyle55 07-13-2010 09:52 PM

wow...sorry to hear this. I'm sure Cobb has justified business reasons why our car wasnt profitable for there product. It was a smart/honorable decision on there part to offer a return for people who bought in the last 12 months. If the company was less than par...they would have kept your money anyway and given the big FU.

But hey...you can still by a AP for your '09 and get it tuned at a tuner and get sick results (like me). No way in hell I would return mine.

1slow370 07-14-2010 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 609981)
Well when I pressured Uprev on the topic of VVEL they still stand behind the idea they will not do it, unless a part which will take advantage of it is produced. As of right now, the risk v. reward on stock parts is to great, and while I would like to see VVEL control for the masses it would be best to have parts which can actually take proper advantage of it.


Give me some time i'm acquiring a spare set of heads (made the down payment already) purely for development purposes and when i get done kicking some large parts company a$$, you can bet my magic screw will be fully extended ;) . I'm going to look into serviceability after that because i don't like being told that things can be made and assembled but never fixed. one thing is for damn sure though the VVEL tunning is going to be a requirement. it's one of the big things holding shops back from working with these heads. after that i'll be working on a kenne bell 2.6l supercharger and the vvel tunning would make that easier as well.


And you know what anyone who doesn't think our tunning options suck should go out and buy a 2000 camaro ss and get an hptuners ecu then comeback and tell me that cobb and uprev is the sh!t.

Mozen 07-14-2010 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning (Post 610125)
Mozen,

That is correct. Essentially the AccessPORT for the 370Z is in its final state. The latest version of firmware and AccessTUNER Race software will remain available for download. Pro tuners can continue to tune AccessPORT equipped vehicles. The 1 year warranty remains in effect and repair services will continue to be available.

Gary

Thanks for the response. I still plan to buy the COBB AP. I didn't want to do so so soon but meh, beggars cant be choosers.

SE 07-17-2010 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 616014)
Don't forget, Cobb AP is not compatible with 2010 models.

Anyone from Cobb care to chime in on this? I'm CONSIDERING buying a Cobb AP but I don't want to waste my time or effort returning it if it doesn't connect.


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