Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879827)

ok, let me explain that more.

base stillen SC kit is trash. too much money and no power.

now, if you get that, spend more money and get the A2A kit, it is better but still tops out at like 600-650whp.

after all that money spent you could have gone TT with a much higher top HP capabilities.

also, SC is the way to go if you want a small power bump and have 7AT and dont want to spend the money to get a built tranny.

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879830)

Definitely agree, the base Stillen kit is trash.

My car is one pulley upgrade ($100.00) away from 700whp if I want.

I am certainly not going to bash tt's as I love them. I'm not sure what the total cost of a tt set up is but if I started from scratch knowing what I now know about sc'ing, I could build a complete 700whp system for about 13k.

Sc is a good way to make big power on a stock block.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879834)

FI TT stage 1 kit is 9995 and it's good to 700rwp

add the fuel upgrades for e85, tune ,and basic needs outside the kit runs u to 11,500-12k.

sooooo cheaper than your 650whp SC kit :wtf2: lol

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879841)

That tt price is if you're doing the labor yourself. Add the labor to have a shop pull the motor to install the turbos and see where that price goes.

The price I listed was for materials and shop labor. ;)

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879847)

wait, why would you waste money having a shop install it?

i would do all that lol rather spend time in the garage building my car vs getting raped on labor from some shop.

tuning however i will pay for. idk a god damn thing about using those programs lol

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879850)

Unfortunately, some of us don't have a garage to be able do a lot of our own work. :mad:

My car goes to Seb for tune. :driving:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879855)

yea i got the garage but honestly for turbo install i would need to go to a friends shop. i dont have a lift.....yet.

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879857)

Yet. I guess it's in the works? :tiphat: I'd love to have a garage, maybe when I finally decide to :gtfo2: of California and move out by Hotrodz.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879860)

nice! at least you guys get to use your cars year round.

felt that chilly air already this morning so it's getting about that time the toys go into hibernation.

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879862)

That's one of the few pluses of living in CA. I couldn't imagine having to put my car away for months. You've got two you have to put away.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879863)

to be honest......i rather put my car away for 4-5 months over the stupid laws in CA any-fuckin-day.

:tiphat:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3879864)

There are ways around (some) of the stupid laws in CA. There's no way around winter. But I do agree, we have stupid laws out here.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3879865)

after 8 years and 8 winters putting the Z (2nd winter for GTR) for winter it seriously is super depressing but my god the first time you take them out 4-5 months later is better than that first time getting laid......ok maybe same level but still it's kinda nice.