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visconti 06-11-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 3223230)
Subbed for results. I've been thinking about ECUTek in the near future.

Visconti - I have a ZEX nitrous system. Let me know if you get the details worked out in a PM.

Will do!

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3223651)
Thanks for the input! I test drove the 2015 STI and WRX and I could feel that the WRX pushes me to my seat more at lower RPM, both with 2 passengers around 300IBS combined. I did no rev to the top of RPM band of the STI so I really do not know if it will hit a wall at 5k RPM.

The new WRX looks modern - finally the interior is decent compare to the 2014 model and I like the subtle look from the side too. Regarding the G37x sedan, it is a heavy car so it does not feel very peppy, unless the RPM is pass 3k. 3 years from now, the look of the G37x is way outdated.
Even today, it is a bit outdated compare to the new cars coming out.

The G definitely has a better highway end power and a. 100MPH is nothing for this car.
I cannot think of anything else that perform like the WRX or G37x that is worth 24 grand.

I have a 2008 EX35 AWD infiniti and it will be out of warranty on Sept. next year. I just had my timing cover chain leaks repaired under warranty for $2,800. I really cannot keep a high mileage luxury car with no warranty.

I wonder if it is worth putting a COBB stage one on the 2015 WRX ? Just to have a better top end and smooth everything out. Is this going to be quick enough for DD?

Going STG1 EcuTek or COBB is the way to go *cough* *cough* EcuTek ;)

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3223660)
ANMVQ, hope you"ll find what you lookin for from the ECUTek!

I think he is!

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3223675)
If you have more cooler months weather in your state you drive in, would it be beneficial to setup the AFR leaner? Low 13's and 12.8-12.9 for hotter state?

I just noticed how my data logged AFR changes on cooler months vs hotter months using the same tune in UPREV.

No I dont see any benefit in that mostly because the car doesn't make anymore power with leaner air fuels on a hot or cold day. Even if you were able to squeeze a few more hp by leaning the car out it wouldn't be worth the risk of riding closer to the threshold of knock for 2-3whp

John

ANMVQ 06-12-2015 06:59 AM

Let first off by say John has been great the whole time and a pleasure to work with!!
OK on to the review so far :)

Ok guys , Been a week of driving on my ECUtek Vs UPREV and can say that it “feels” about the same, The ECUtek shifting is still something that’s lacking IMO, it will only shift firmly at WOT and high RPM’s ( An I still feel UPREV shifted better) . An having a 7 spd auto and the stock shifting logic is terrible it was something I REALLY like on my UPREV. Pretty much anything past 1/3 throttle UPREV would shift firm, and being I drive exclusively in manual mode this is important to me, and the LAZY shift is not for me. The throttle responsiveness is close but still feel UPREV has a bit of an edge here also. I finally got a 1-3 WOT pull in this morning and 1-2 felt about the same as UPREV but hitting 3rd it felt like a flat spot ? Car didn’t pull hard right away,( The shift was EH) but the RPM’s did rise up again fast kinda took a second just felt slower. I was told the tune was just about spot on 99% . John said to make it more aggressive wouldn’t do that much and the tune is safe so that’s fine with me as I want a safe tune only.

I have one more flash to load but haven’t had time. Been busy with the wife( Wedding anniversary this week, MRI for my back today) so lot of things going on. I will load this up before the dyno tomorrow just so we have an apples to apples compare. I will be surprised if I make any more power tomorrow when on dyno but we’ll see. Depending on what the numbers are I’ll might sell the Ecutek but not sure. The gain if any has to justify to me to have spent $300 extra dollars for Ecutek. An the fact that I have a auto and AWD the racerom features and updates are of no use to me. Was looking to strictly make more power and enhance the cars drivability. Maybe I am expecting too much and there really is zero difference in them I don’t know, but going into the dyno tomorrow I’m not feeling too good about the $$ I spent.

elperuano 06-12-2015 07:51 AM

Thanks for the review.

gbrettin 06-12-2015 10:09 AM

It sounds like there is a lot of room to tweak yet. Keep us posted! Thanks for the review so far.

BTW, I have a 7AT so I am very interested in how that gets worked out.

njobe89 06-12-2015 11:22 AM

i think the stuff you're looking for you already had since you're awd. i would want someone to test this out on a manual 370z.

ANMVQ 06-12-2015 11:36 AM

The only difference in the manual would be the flat foot shifting and launch control, Theres no really power difference, Ran manual cars before :)

ANMVQ 06-12-2015 11:36 AM

Next update will be about 930am tomorrow ! :)

njobe89 06-12-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3226794)
The only difference in the manual would be the flat foot shifting and launch control, Theres no really power difference, Ran manual cars before :)

i think the launch control could be worth it alone in the switch :D

in for the update tomorrow

Magowin 06-12-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3226845)
i think the launch control could be worth it alone in the switch :D

in for the update tomorrow

Launch control is awesome I had it on my Stage 2 STI via Cobb. It's perfect for 1/4 mile track runs. Also Flat foot shifting was cool too. I miss my STI.

Magowin 06-12-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3222819)
Good luck ! Pls. update us!

Have you ran your X in the 1/4 mile ( want to see the ET) I am torn between a used 2013 G37x sedan $22k with 22.5 k miles vs 2016 WRX. The price difference is about 8 grand and I already tested the reliability of the VQ. Test drove the 2015 WRX and it is definitely push me back to my seat, but in a very short time 2k-5k rpm. I could feel hitting a wall pass 5k rpm, unlike the G it keeps goin! The G sedan x is about 500 IBs heavier than the wrx.

Not sure how reliable the WRX after 50k miles. BTW, stock 2015 WRX only dyno at 210 HP, but it is 500 Ibs lighter..

G37x sedan combined MPG is 18-19
WRX is 23-24 combined.

My 12xs coupe with no tune and Stillen Gen3 intake I got consistant 13.7's last Nov with traps just over 101mph. I'm anxious to take it this year now that I'm tuned but from reading this thread I may sell ECUTek and go Uprev then go to track.

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 08:35 AM

Agree with you guys for the flat foot shifting and the launch control is a reason to switch just one its own. I'm at the Dyno now cars being strapped in :)

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 08:44 AM

...... We'll see!

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 09:33 AM

Results are !' ..,,

ECUTEK 302 WHP and 240 WTRQ. I made more WHP 15 and 9 more WTRQ. I guess John and ECUTEK WIN!! THamx John this week aha been AWSOME ! Numbers prove it guys ;)
Thanks for following

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 09:34 AM

Graphs will be up when I get home

NoHyperbole 06-13-2015 10:16 AM

Very nice. In your case at least, there appears to be a measurable and not-insignificant gain with EcuTek versus UpRev.

I'm glad you're happy. And thank you for doing this comparison. I'm looking forward to seeing the dyno charts.

EVOHUNTER 06-13-2015 10:17 AM

I want flat foot shifts and launch control lol

I need this.

370Z JT 06-13-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3227810)
Results are !' ..,,

ECUTEK 302 WHP and 240 WTRQ. I made more WHP 15 and 9 more WTRQ. I guess John and ECUTEK WIN!! THamx John this week aha been AWSOME ! Numbers prove it guys ;)
Thanks for following

That's awesome. Avery370Z made 13 whp/10wtrq over the Uprev tune. Your gains are very similar to his.

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 12:38 PM

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OK guys finally got home and have a few minutes before we start working. The sheet will show that not only did I gain an overall 15+WHP and 9 WTRQ but I made it all sooner and throughout the entire band ;O. I was shocked to that. I thought I would just see it all up to from 2500-7500! The gains across the board and I am SUPER happy. Thank again John.

vector7 06-13-2015 03:01 PM

Nice gains. :tup:

Did they get a chance to look into the AT7 issues with the EcuTek tune you didn't have with the UpRev?

v7

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 06:46 PM

You mean the 7spd auto shifting firmness, Yes John addressed it, It's good now

MyZ4U2C 06-13-2015 07:03 PM

Very nice! this has helped move me towards ecutek rather than uprev, not to keen on tuning, but we only have one shop that does ecutek here, mainly on Subaru and Mazda and the GTR. They claim they do other tunes of vehicles not listed and exutek points me to them on the locator"

are these ecutek tunes just tunes run from the same map per say? or running custom tunes? or what i also assume can be both...just want to get a better idea of what im up against here.

this is there website FNP Tuned | Forced Induction Experts

shot them a email with a couple questions.

ANMVQ 06-13-2015 07:10 PM

No you can have multiple maps , I have 4, there are all slightly deferent. I'm running the most aggressive map now. But is still super safe, We agreed to have the safest map that will make the most power. No need to tune the car to an inch of its life. LOL

MyZ4U2C 06-13-2015 07:17 PM

So are you running standard maps? or a custom map as well? I assume the standard maps can be tweaked to run in certain climates or elevation. Just trying to get a better understanding. I know there are multiple maps, sorry I didnt make it clear. thanks

Awgd8 06-13-2015 09:08 PM

ANMVQ, that is great!

Just a quick question? I am about to trade in my car to either a 2013 G37x sedan with premium package vs 2013 G37xS sedan with navi package ( I believe the Navi package must have Premium package to get one)

The xS sedan advantage for me is the Navi , paddle shifter and sports seats, dont care too much on 18" duckfeet rims. Will the Xs heavier rhan the regular X? Price difference between the 2 is $3,500.

I might pick one up this coming Thursday.

jrb55gh 06-13-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3227930)
OK guys finally got home and have a few minutes before we start working. The sheet will show that not only did I gain an overall 15+WHP and 9 WTRQ but I made it all sooner and throughout the entire band ;O. I was shocked to that. I thought I would just see it all up to from 2500-7500! The gains across the board and I am SUPER happy. Thank again John.

Do you have AFR vs rpm available to post?

visconti 06-13-2015 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MyZ4U2C (Post 3228182)
So are you running standard maps? or a custom map as well? I assume the standard maps can be tweaked to run in certain climates or elevation. Just trying to get a better understanding. I know there are multiple maps, sorry I didnt make it clear. thanks

It's all custom mapping..

There is no standard mapping.

Over several months I've come up with my own "OFF THE SHELF" maps...they are written from scratch, I dont use anything EcuTek provides..NOTHING.

The N/A tunes aren't very complicated..

I send all my customers 4 different maps, Low --> High Octane.

Worst Cali Gas --> Best 93 Oct

I have you send me a log on Map 1 or 2 which are the lower octane maps and I review for knock correction , fueling adjustments and a few other things ;)

I normally ask you to stay on the less aggressive maps until fueling is sorted.

Once fueling is where I want it we can start logging on the more aggressive maps. The tune is adjusted until I find a happy place for the car.

All can be remotely.

John

ANMVQ 06-14-2015 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3228238)
ANMVQ, that is great!

Just a quick question? I am about to trade in my car to either a 2013 G37x sedan with premium package vs 2013 G37xS sedan with navi package ( I believe the Navi package must have Premium package to get one)

The xS sedan advantage for me is the Navi , paddle shifter and sports seats, dont care too much on 18" duckfeet rims. Will the Xs heavier rhan the regular X? Price difference between the 2 is $3,500.

I might pick one up this coming Thursday.

Hey man !! :) No the XS IS not heavier , well maybe a little cause the base X has 17's but nothing not worth buying it, heck I made mine a X(S) lol I added paddles my winters and stock RWD sedan sport wheels , just no sport seats :/. But if you can get a Xs get it . We had an 08 G35 XS and I loved it :p

Spooler 06-14-2015 12:23 AM

Now this would be worth it for a tune.

MyZ4U2C 06-14-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3228285)
It's all custom mapping..

There is no standard mapping.

Over several months I've come up with my own "OFF THE SHELF" maps...they are written from scratch, I dont use anything EcuTek provides..NOTHING.

The N/A tunes aren't very complicated..

I send all my customers 4 different maps, Low --> High Octane.

Worst Cali Gas --> Best 93 Oct

I have you send me a log on Map 1 or 2 which are the lower octane maps and I review for knock correction , fueling adjustments and a few other things ;)

I normally ask you to stay on the less aggressive maps until fueling is sorted.

Once fueling is where I want it we can start logging on the more aggressive maps. The tune is adjusted until I find a happy place for the car.

All can be remotely.

John

Thanks for clarifying! :tup: im not quite ready to get tuned, but I may end up contacting you when im ready. Thanks! :tiphat:

Awgd8 06-14-2015 07:44 AM

AMNVQ, thanks for the input.

I might sell my Uprev Tuner also and go ECUTek. So yours is all Etunes? How much did you spend for everything? I am planning a not so aggresive performance MAP.

I can save money if I stay with Uprev since I can tune this car on my own. First thing to do is to find a decently price G37Xs.

Does your ECUtek throttle a lot better now?

I wonder if Uprev or ECUtek supports a 2013 G's?

Awgd8 06-14-2015 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Magowin (Post 3227331)
My 12xs coupe with no tune and Stillen Gen3 intake I got consistant 13.7's last Nov with traps just over 101mph. I'm anxious to take it this year now that I'm tuned but from reading this thread I may sell ECUTek and go Uprev then go to track.

That is a decent run for a stock car. DS mode?

visconti 06-14-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3228493)
AMNVQ, thanks for the input.

I might sell my Uprev Tuner also and go ECUTek. So yours is all Etunes? How much did you spend for everything? I am planning a not so aggresive performance MAP.

I can save money if I stay with Uprev since I can tune this car on my own. First thing to do is to find a decently price G37Xs.

Does your ECUtek throttle a lot better now?

I wonder if Uprev or ECUtek supports a 2013 G's?


Ecutek supports 2008+ G37s

The 2008 which has only a 1MB flash doesn't have all the latest advanced features


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Awgd8 06-14-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3228642)
Ecutek supports 2008+ G37s

The 2008 which has only a 1MB flash doesn't have all the latest advanced features


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Thanks for checking that! I might be getting either the 2018 G37xS or the G37X sedan soon!

Awgd8 06-14-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3228290)
Hey man !! :) No the XS IS not heavier , well maybe a little cause the base X has 17's but nothing not worth buying it, heck I made mine a X(S) lol I added paddles my winters and stock RWD sedan sport wheels , just no sport seats :/. But if you can get a Xs get it . We had an 08 G35 XS and I loved it :p

I only want the G37xS for the seat. I find the G37x seat hurting my back. Does the Xs seat stiffer or just the same only wrap around? The paddle shifter that I test drove before seems lagging. I might save money for just getting the G37x and buy a lighter wheels, then Ecutek.

So how is the throttle response on the ECutek now?

ANMVQ 06-14-2015 06:22 PM

The throttle response is very good !! He did a great job with that also . The XS seats if a remember right and lumbar support , something I thjnk I'm goig to need soon. ( back MRI on this past Friday) . But those seats have a seperate set of buttons for adjust for lumbar support. The seat sides hugging you are nice also :) .

warpeacelove 06-14-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3228839)
The throttle response is very good !! He did a great job with that also . The XS seats if a remember right and lumbar support , something I thjnk I'm goig to need soon. ( back MRI on this past Friday) . But those seats have a seperate set of buttons for adjust for lumbar support. The seat sides hugging you are nice also :) .

Did you get the line pressure fixed?

ANMVQ 06-14-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3228843)
Did you get the line pressure fixed?

Yes I did , got it all straitened out ! Thanx man

visconti 06-14-2015 09:35 PM

Time to update that signature!

ANMVQ 06-14-2015 09:44 PM

All set ;)

chuckie311 06-15-2015 04:59 PM

WOW guess john knows his stuff for tuning..
guess it might be the route to go to see if can squeeze some more out of mine..


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