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Dwnshift 01-21-2014 07:21 AM

2014 Conti Challenge Round 1 Daytona
 
Here we go again...
It's going to be an interesting and exciting year in 2014... Starting with this weeks race in Daytona .
Doran racing will be fielding 2 cars for the full season 41 of David Empringham and John Farano and th 14 of Brad Jaeger and BJZ.
The 41 Tower events car is a brad new. Chassis built by Doran racing on the chassis known as "Destiny"
The 14 car is still chassis RC 001 but a brand new at will be under the knife soon which will see the same developments as Destiny received.
Testing as Daytona was positive for both cars but the race should be interesting.
The new Camaro Z28s didn't show up for the test days and as of right now are the cars to beat. How these car were homoligated to the series has everyone scracthig their. Heads And is sure to change the series a bit.
This year... The series is going to rely heavily on data gathered by the cars and by timing strips all around the tracks to help even out the playing field. During the roar Doran racing cars posted the fastest infield section times will posting trap speeds on the tri oval that were 4mph slower than the BMWs and Mustangs.
Round one officially licks off tomorrow / Wednesday and the race is Friiday which will be aired on Fox Sports 2.
Stay tuned....

gomer_110 01-21-2014 08:02 AM

Good luck.

I'll see you guys down there.

DR_ 01-21-2014 08:45 AM

Good luck Doran Racing!

GSS138 01-21-2014 10:21 AM

Go Getem! Hope to catch you guys at laguna this year.

gomer_110 01-21-2014 10:36 AM

@BJ

Just curious, did Doran have any thing to do with the development of Tim Bell's Z?

Rusty 01-21-2014 11:39 AM

Good luck to the whole team for the season. :tup::driving:

Dwnshift 01-21-2014 07:39 PM

Nothing . He bought all the OL Am Performance cars and rebuilt them. That is his own deal.

ENT-Z 01-21-2014 08:03 PM

Good luck guys! Will be following as always!

Shamu 01-21-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 2661211)
Nothing . He bought all the OL Am Performance cars and rebuilt them. That is his own deal.

Glad those cars are back on track! Awesome! Will be cool to see small field of Z's this season!

Good luck to you all!

Hotrodz 01-21-2014 09:27 PM

Good luck guys...I got a good feeling about this year!!!

clintfocus 01-21-2014 10:03 PM

were the Z28's not restricted enough?

Dwnshift 01-22-2014 01:49 AM

2014 Conti Challenge Round 1 Daytona
 
The Z28s are $350k machines built by Pratt and Miller. Their World challenge version is $425k.
They are way overbuilt for both series.
The 7 ltr v8 Camaro makes 500 hp and 475hp in stock streetcar trim. As advertised.
Throw in a KN filter and ECU mapping who knows what it makes. The throttle body is 9mm with an 80mm restrictor which is probably about 25-30 hp and still makes 475 ftlbs of torque.
If you see the cars up close and know rules for the series... They were given very thing they asked for and a lot of it is beyond the spirit of the rules for the series .
When cars in this series are allowed to put in racing pedal boxes and dual master cylinder systems , lexan windows, its beyond the intentions of the series.
Again $350k for a Contincar is insane and all It will do.. Is kill the series.

Mr&Mrs 01-22-2014 02:44 AM

I may be wrong but things branded Chevy seem to get bent rules a lot.

Anyway glad to see you guys at it hope you have an awesome season!

DCNISMO 01-22-2014 10:17 AM

I thought the Z28 came with lexan from the factory?

2011 Nismo#91 01-22-2014 11:38 AM

Best of luck and I'll be watching it on Friday, on the TV of course.

takjak2 01-22-2014 01:06 PM

Good luck, go Nissan!

Shamu 01-22-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 2661593)
The Z28s are $350k machines built by Pratt and Miller. Their World challenge version is $425k.
They are way overbuilt for both series.
The 7 ltr v8 Camaro makes 500 hp and 475hp in stock streetcar trim. As advertised.
Throw in a KN filter and ECU mapping who knows what it makes. The throttle body is 9mm with an 80mm restrictor which is probably about 25-30 hp and still makes 475 ftlbs of torque.
If you see the cars up close and know rules for the series... They were given very thing they asked for and a lot of it is beyond the spirit of the rules for the series .
When cars in this series are allowed to put in racing pedal boxes and dual master cylinder systems , lexan windows, its beyond the intentions of the series.
Again $350k for a Contincar is insane and all It will do.. Is kill the series.

Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

2011 Nismo#91 01-22-2014 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 2662468)
Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

I agree, so many big manufacturers have bent and twisted the spirit of the rules and made "homologation specials" over the years just to make a given race's requirements it just seems moot to make an issue over it. Simple solution is boost the minimum production figures up from the 500, which many big manufacturers could easily eat if the sales don't match, to a few thousand.

thekinn 01-22-2014 02:50 PM

Good luck BJ/Doran! I always look forward to watching you guys race.

With the bankroll of the Camaro teams, seems they would fit into a Tudor class instead of CSCC. I was going to look it up .. with the changes my old memory is lost as to what is in Tudor now... and their website doesn't have an easy place to see all the classes, differences, etc..

Just do us a favor and pass those chumps - :)

2011 Nismo#91 01-22-2014 02:53 PM

I believe these are the cars in their two classes for this race.
7-3 Grand Sport (GS)
Aston Martin Vantage
Audi S4
BMW M3 E92 2 door
Chevrolet Camaro
Dodge Challenger
Ford Mustang FR500C 5.0 2009
Ford Mustang Boss 302R
Nissan 370Z (3.7)
Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) 2008
Porsche 997 Carrera S (3.8) Direct Injected
Porsche Cayman S 3.4 L
Subaru WRX STi

7-4 Street Tuner (ST)
Audi TT 3.2 L AWD
Acura TSX L 2.4 L 2008
BMW 128i (3.0)
BMW 328i (E90) 4 Door
BMW 328i (F30) 4 Door
Chevrolet Cobalt SS (2.0) 2008
Ford Focus ST
Honda Accord
Honda Civic Si (2.0) USDM 2011
Honda Civic Si 2DR & 4DR JDM 2011
Honda Civic Si 2.4L
Hyundai Genesis
Kia Forte Koup
Mazda Speed 3
Mazda MX 5 Miata
Mazda 6 (3.0) 2008
Mazda RX8 2011
Mercedes C300 Sport Sedan
Nissan Altima V6
Porsche Boxster (2.7) 987 based 2008
Scion TC 2009
Scion FR-S
Subaru BR-Z

GSS138 01-22-2014 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 2662063)
I thought the Z28 came with lexan from the factory?

Lexan is not street legal so no. Even in road racing it is something that is usually reserved for modified/unlimited type classes. It is a definite bunch of BS. And the funny part is that it is still a Camaro lol. Maybe they can hire Beavis and Butthead as their drivers next season.

GSS138 01-22-2014 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 2662468)
Since when are big racing series fair, sane or not political? Chevy wants to sell more Camaros so they influence regulations. Guess the solution is Drive a Camaro. Or drive a car that strong manufacturers support and influence over sanctioning body. Not first or last time a manufacturer is given preference in a race series. $350K Camaro? ...No thanks. You could build a pretty nice Porsche for that amount. Chevy must want the win to tout the whole new line of track ready cars they are marketing? Too bad you cant counter the Chevies with a well developed GTR.

Or yell at Nissan Motorsports USA. They are next to useless.

thekinn 01-23-2014 10:59 AM

at first glance in the practices.. maybe it is the M3's you need to worry about. :icon17: 5 out of top 6 lap times.

whis9 01-23-2014 02:19 PM

qualifying was today, but cant find results yet. Looks like mustang took pole

gomer_110 01-23-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whis9 (Post 2664058)
qualifying was today, but cant find results yet. Looks like mustang took pole

Here's the link to the Quali results

Qualifying Results

Dwnshift 01-23-2014 09:23 PM

BMWs are very strong at Daytona ... Since last years running here they were given a restrictor break... And their 6th gear is reeeeeeeeally good.
The Z28s (3) blew engines yesterday Nd today was there first time out really for them.
Quali was a mess and 3 cara got one green lap before the red flag came out.
When quali resumed everyone got 1 lap.
Brad had a good lap but had to avoid a spinning Aston Martin in turn one
The 41 car got dinged for pit road speeding penalty and will start from the back.

God-Speed 01-23-2014 09:37 PM

Dwnshift, best of luck to you and the team. Remember "Wall Bad, Finish line Good!!" :tup::tup:

HKYStormFront 01-23-2014 09:44 PM

good luck BJ and the rest of the Doran team!

Whtfairladyz 01-23-2014 10:31 PM

*Fingers crossed* for big things this year for the Doran crew.

BJ, keep me posted if you guys are making another stop by Smyrna Plant again this year.

GSS138 01-24-2014 01:38 AM

Go out there and straight whoop some a$$ man. Make a scene even! :tiphat:

Shamu 01-24-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 2664554)
The Z28s (3) blew engines yesterday Nd today was there first time out really for them. .

Guess they didn't spend that $350K on engine development?

Fishey 01-24-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 2661593)
The throttle body is 90mm with an 80mm restrictor which is probably about 25-30 hp and still makes 475 ftlbs of torque. When cars in this series are allowed to put in racing pedal boxes and dual master cylinder systems , lexan windows, its beyond the intentions of the series.
Again $350k for a Contincar is insane and all It will do.. Is kill the series.

Yea, total B.S.

The best part is that 80mm restrictor isn't doing ****. That 80mm is over 3".

3" Pipe
700 cfm = 162 mph = 0.21 mach
800 cfm = 185 mph = 0.24 mach
900 cfm = 208 mph = 0.27 mach

Having tested many LS style motors for intake speed they average around 200mph. Given that is going to be a Pre-Throttle Body flat plate restrictor you can bet that its still flowing 800cfm.

So 800cfm to Lbs/min is give or take 14.5 so 800/14.5 = 55lbs/min or 550hp

So yea... Likely costing them 1-2hp if that..

whis9 01-24-2014 02:03 PM

just saw they retired.

thekinn 01-24-2014 02:14 PM

yeah. rough start for Nissan. #14 retired, #41 looks to have done one lap, #28 in 2nd place at the moment. I presume will need to pit for fuel (like last season..) and will drop down.

edit - not sure if it was for fuel, but #28 still in pits.. so guessing something else happened.

Fishey 01-24-2014 02:59 PM

So, The 41 car got caught up in an unfortunate accident that was another teams fault. The 14 car had normal Doran luck and the 28 car, no idea what happened.

GSS138 01-24-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 2664921)
Guess they didn't spend that $350K on engine development?

Lmao, nope they spent it on donkey shows for the Conti governing body members.

sig11 01-24-2014 04:42 PM

Ugh. IMSA's timing and scoring sucks. They need session alerts back. The twitter feed didn't mention the incidents for 14, 41, or 28. :(

gomer_110 01-24-2014 08:24 PM

My understanding:

#14 had clutch problems
#41 (summarizing the radio transmission I heard) F-ing Porsche driver made contact and ripped the rear wheel off. (atleast that's what I think I heard on the scanner) And race control didn't even throw a caution for it.

#28 Long stop seemed due to bodywork repairs. The rear bumper was partially ripped off before they pitted and then was taped back in place when they came out. Then it must have stopped again because it was MIA for a few laps (at least that's how it seemed) and when it came back out the hood was taped down.

Also the Skullcandy #34 Altima had noticeable contact to the Driver's front causing it to go a number of laps down.

Just before impact:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/1...0689d492_z.jpg

Just after impact:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/1...f72bf98a_z.jpg

Dwnshift 01-25-2014 03:31 AM

Yea another tough day
BMWs 1-6
Won't know what the deal is on 14 until we get it apart.
Brad was p10 when the issue happened..
Feel bad for the team and the guys in the 41.
John was picking off car smoothly .. Car in front dropped wheels in the kink and John passed him. The Porsche driver kept his foot in it and unfortunately the next turn is a right hander... John turn in and the Porsche smashed into the left rear wheel and B pilar .
This then turned the car and it got into the wall.
Best news John is okay
We test at Sebring in exactly 4 weeks ..

Fishey 01-25-2014 08:03 AM

What the hell did BMW get to gain so much speed this year? Also, one of them failed tech.


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